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Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:14 PM

 

Honest question about Bernie Sanders

It’s open to anybody but would love to get his supporters feedback.

If Bernie Sanders wins the nomination, will he run as a Democrat?

It’s that simple. In the past, he ran in the Democratic primaries, won, and then rejected the nomination so he could continue on as an independent without fear of being challenged from the left. Is that what he is planning to do here?


You want me to accept Bernie and support him. Can you guarantee me this won’t happen if I do?
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Response to Quackers (Original post)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:16 PM

1. Of course he will.

 

It’s absurd to think he wouldn’t. He needs the party’s backing and infrastructure for his run. It would be the height of idiocy to refuse the nomination.

I guarantee he won’t do that should he win.
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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:23 PM

4. He has done it before though and still kept the Democratic backing.

 

The party would still support Bernie over Trump, even if he stayed an Independent.
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Response to Quackers (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:25 PM

5. If he refused the nomination, we'd nominate someone else.

 

This isn’t a small state house or senate race, this is for the Presidency.

Forget about it. This is a ridiculous thought exercise.
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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:36 PM

8. That's what I was wondering about.

 

I wasn’t clear on the rules that govern when a nomination is turned down at the national level. And it’s not a ridiculous thought exercise. It was a legitimate concern, especially since he did it at the state level.
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Response to Quackers (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 07:38 PM

11. Vermont has different rules.

 

I heard someone explaining it just the other week, but can't quote anything. Maybe go to their elections or voter registration web page?
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Response to Quackers (Original post)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:18 PM

2. Logic dictates that if Bernie were to win the nomination, there is absolutely no doubt

 

he would govern as a Democratic President.

He has a most ambitious agenda and there is no way his polices could pass a Congress if he changed to Independent status as President.
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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:28 PM

6. I just wonder if he thinks he could bridge the divide between the parties if he stayed Independent?

 

He didn’t lose Democratic support when he turned down the Democratic nomination for senator.
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Response to Quackers (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:37 PM

14. There is a major difference, when running as a Senator, Bernie was essentially staying

 

on the outside to have more freedom to champion his issues and the people of Vermont.

Running as President is an entirely different ball game, should Bernie get the nomination, he knows that a Democratic landslide best guarantees his chances of having his ambitious agenda passed, to make a mark and finally turn the page toward aggressive progressive policies most representing the will of the American People.

Should Bernie win the nomination, G.E and get that landslide, there is no way he could as leader turn his back on the national Democratic mandate and hope to get his policy proposals passed though a Congress controlled by Democrats and Republicans.

He would be a man without a country and Bernie cares more about passing his policies and issues than any political comfort.
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Response to Quackers (Original post)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:23 PM

3. Yes

 

And if he isn't nominated, there will be no 3rd-party bid from him - as much as our Repug friends wish there would be.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Bill Weld run on a 3rd party ticket though (go Bill, go!).
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Response to sandensea (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:30 PM

7. I wouldn't expect him to run a third party bid.

 

He’s shown he wouldn’t do that.
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Response to Quackers (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:38 PM

10. Right. That's was I was saying.

 

The GOPee, though, won't be as lucky:

I fully expect a 3rd-party run from Bill Weld or Joe Walsh in the general.

And either one could easily glean 3% from the Orange Bastard.
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Response to Quackers (Original post)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 06:38 PM

9. What sort of guarantee? Involving money?

 

Kidding about the part. I don’t know what such a “guarantee” could be or how it could be structured.

He said he would run as a Democrat. He signed a DNC document to that effect. He didn’t say that as a senate candidate to my knowledge.

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Response to Quackers (Original post)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:00 PM

12. look at his track record and personality for the answers nt

 

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Response to Quackers (Original post)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 08:05 PM

13. He has said he would. He even signed the much ballyhooed loyalty pledge. nt

 

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Response to Quackers (Original post)

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 11:32 PM

15. sanders has signed a contract and had to agree to run as a democrat

 

This is the actual rule that governs whether sanders can run as a member of the Democratic party https://www.thegreenpapers.com/P20/2019-01-03-2020_Call_for_the_Convention_12.21.18_w-attachments.pdf

The term “presidential candidate” herein shall mean any person who, as determined by the National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee, has accrued delegates in the nominating process and plans to seek the nomination, has established substantial support for their nomination as the Democratic candidate for the Office of the President of the United States, is a bona fide Democrat whose record of public service, accomplishment, public writings and/or public statements affirmatively demonstrates that the candidate is faithful to the interests, welfare and success of the Democratic Party of the United States, and will participate in the Convention in good faith. At the time a presidential candidate announces their candidacy publicly, they must publicly affirm that they are a Democrat. Each candidate pursuing the Democratic nomination shall affirm, in writing, to the National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee that they:

A. are a member of the Democratic Party;

B. will accept the Democratic nomination; and

C. will run and serve as a member of the Democratic Party.

This requirement of written affirmation shall not supplant any necessary qualifications a candidate must satisfy at the state level, but is in addition to such affirmations required by individual states and territories. The written affirmation shall be done via an approved format by the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee appended to this Call

There is an oath that sanders and other candidates will have to take
https://www.thegreenpapers.com/P20/2019-01-03-2020_Call_for_the_Convention_12.21.18_w-attachments.pdf
Presidential Candidate Written Affirmation

Pursuant to Article IV of the Call for the 2020 Democratic National Convention, I hereby affirm that, upon publicly announcing my candidacy for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States in the 2020 election, I am a member of the Democratic Party. I will run as a Democrat, accept the nomination of my Party, and I will serve as a Democrat if elected. I understand that signing this form does not supplant any legal or Party requirement by any state or territory to qualify for ballot placement in that jurisdiction.

Further, I acknowledge that in submitting this form to the National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee, I am subject to the provisions of Rule 13.K of the Delegate Selection Rules for the 2020 Democratic National Convention and Article VI of the Call for the 2020 Democratic National Convention that authorize the National Chairperson to determine whether a presidential candidate has established substantial support for their nomination as the Democratic candidate for the Office of the President of the United States, is a bona fide Democrat whose record of public service, accomplishments, public writings and/or public statements affirmatively demonstrate that the candidate is faithful to the interests, welfare and success of the Democratic Party of the United States, and will participate in the Convention in good faith.
___________________

NOTARY AFFIDAVIT
STATE OF ______________
COUNTY OF _______________
I, ____________________________________, a Notary Public, do hereby certify that on this ____day of ___________________, 20____, personally appeared before me ______________________________, known to me to be the person whose name is subscribed to the foregoing instrument, and swore and acknowledged to me that they executed the same for the purpose and in the capacity therein expressed, and that the statements contained therein are true and correct. _______________________________________________ Notary Public, State of __________________ Name, Typed or Printed: __________________________________________ My Commission Expires: ___________________________
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