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MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 02:24 PM Jan 2020

The Minnesota Primary will be a Semi-Open Primary.

What does that mean? Well, it means that when you go to the polling place or an early voting site, you can request a Democratic or Republican ballot, or the ballot of a third party. Since Minnesota doesn't register voters by party, that means that anyone can vote in any party's primary election.

So, why is Minnesota's primary a "Semi-Open" one? Because you have to state verbally that you "generally agree" with the party's principles. You also have to sign your name to that effect before being give the party's ballot you requested.

Oddly enough, there is a lot of blowback about that pledge. Since the Republican primary ballot will only have Donald J. Trump's name on it, a lot of Minnesota Republicans were thinking they'd prank the Democratic primary and try to get the least likely candidate to defeat Trump chosen.

That verbal and signed pledge thing, though, is worrisome it seems. Even more so because it's a public document, accessible to political parties and others. So if you're trying to prank the Democrats, you're on record as voting as a Democrat. The Horror! Republicans are pissed off about that pledge and especially about it being public. See, they're allergic to being called Democrats or the word getting out that they voted as a Democrat.

So, a lot of them who might have cross-voted just won't do it. So, the primary is only "Semi-Open." Some will still, no doubt, hold their noses and say the party agreement pledge and sign their name, but not as many who would have had there not been that public statement required.

Poor Republicans. Someone always seems to be putting out a stumbling block to prevent their lying shenanigans. The same system was in place back in the old caucus days, too. You had to sign a form saying you agreed with Democratic party principals before participating. That did a great job of keeping GOOPers away from our caucuses. They can't say that. They just can't...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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The Minnesota Primary will be a Semi-Open Primary. (Original Post) MineralMan Jan 2020 OP
And, I suppose, one can always switch registration back and forth question everything Jan 2020 #1
We still won't be registered by party. MineralMan Jan 2020 #2
Oh, they'll do it, and not just in Minnesota frazzled Jan 2020 #3
I dispute the notion that "a lot of Republicans" would engage in mischief voting... brooklynite Jan 2020 #4
Yup. There won't be enough cross-party voting to screw things up. MineralMan Jan 2020 #5
A couple of things judeling Jan 2020 #6
Thanks for the reminder about GOP shenanigans in interfering with our primaries. R B Garr Jan 2020 #7
 

question everything

(47,497 posts)
1. And, I suppose, one can always switch registration back and forth
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 02:26 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
2. We still won't be registered by party.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 02:27 PM
Jan 2020

The pledge is only for this primary election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. Oh, they'll do it, and not just in Minnesota
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jan 2020

Since the Republican primary is virtually uncontested, I expect there to be a lot of hanky panky from conservatives crossing over to meddle in Democratic primaries in the states that have open or semi-open contests.

This is why I fear we will lose the election in 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
4. I dispute the notion that "a lot of Republicans" would engage in mischief voting...
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jan 2020

Will some Party activists or Rush Limbaugh listeners do so? Perhaps, but that require really caring about the Democratic outcome. The average voter doesn't get that worked up about political outcomes for other Parties. I'd hazard a guess that this would amount to less than 1% of the vote tally.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
5. Yup. There won't be enough cross-party voting to screw things up.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 02:43 PM
Jan 2020

Republicans are paranoid about public exposure, it seems. Besides, Democrats smell bad and stuff. They can't stand to be around us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

judeling

(1,086 posts)
6. A couple of things
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jan 2020

The Presidential Primary is now a separate thing. Before people wanting to mess in an election had to choose to do that while other races were being decided within their own party. There were Senate and congressional races that may have been contested.
Before the sign ins were property of the party, so if you did cross party your party wouldn't know.
But because this is now a public record everybody can know.
But last because Amy is on the ballot Republicans can be forgiven.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

R B Garr

(16,955 posts)
7. Thanks for the reminder about GOP shenanigans in interfering with our primaries.
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 06:10 PM
Jan 2020

It's a very old and well-known tactic and you described it perfectly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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