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Bernie Raises More In January Than Any Candidate Raised Over 3-Months (Rational National) (Original Post) ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 OP
Money does not equal votes. TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #1
What? I was told money equaled votes! ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #3
Right votes equals votes ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #4
So are you one of the people that believes Biden should withdraw TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #6
Never said that ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #7
Yes, you're correct--next! TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #8
Asking a question is wholly different than putting words in one's mouth. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #9
this is becoming a runaway freight train LeftTurn3623 Feb 2020 #2
who remembers when he complained about the bad effect of big money nt msongs Feb 2020 #5
this isn't big money ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #12
How much was in dark money? OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #10
do you have any proof of dark money in that sum ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #13
Common Cause didn't file an FEC complaint for nothing. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #15
so, no proof then, but an investigation ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #16
Plenty of evidence. You think Common Cause files complains without evidence? OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #18
None. These are individual donations to his campaign. They are all reported. DanTex Feb 2020 #20
So money in politics is an evil thing until it isn't? Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #11
this comment is idiotic, bordering on brain-dead ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #14
I can't write that essay without mentioning Bernie's PAC Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #19
Sanders' campaign is essentially publicly funded ProfessorPlum Feb 2020 #21
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2020 #17
 

TexasTowelie

(112,150 posts)
1. Money does not equal votes.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:03 PM
Feb 2020

If it did, then we would have President Jeb! as our GOP opponent.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ProfessorPlum

(11,256 posts)
3. What? I was told money equaled votes!
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:04 PM
Feb 2020

/s
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
4. Right votes equals votes
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:05 PM
Feb 2020

Biden did not get them. Next.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TexasTowelie

(112,150 posts)
6. So are you one of the people that believes Biden should withdraw
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:21 PM
Feb 2020

based upon one caucus in a state lacking diversity and with a caucus which nobody has any confidence in the results?

If any of the candidates failed to cmeet expectations it was Bernie. He was supposed to win Iowa yuge! At best, Bernie came up with a dubious tie for first.

There are 56 more contests to go. Trying to spin the results of Iowa into anything meaningful is laughable.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
7. Never said that
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:24 PM
Feb 2020

But please keep putting words in my mouth if it makes you feel good. I do know that Biden got his ass kicked in Iowa. Next.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TexasTowelie

(112,150 posts)
8. Yes, you're correct--next!
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:29 PM
Feb 2020

Let's see where Biden is at after Super Tuesday. Iowa would have been icing on the cake if Biden won, but it wasn't a knockout blow or a TKO.

Has Bernie ever won an election in a southern state?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. Asking a question is wholly different than putting words in one's mouth.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:30 PM
Feb 2020

And now you know.

Next, part II.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LeftTurn3623

(628 posts)
2. this is becoming a runaway freight train
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:03 PM
Feb 2020

If the moderate candidates do not shrink down to 1 or 2 candidates quickly this could be over.

Bernie is getting the nomination.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

msongs

(67,403 posts)
5. who remembers when he complained about the bad effect of big money nt
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:06 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ProfessorPlum

(11,256 posts)
12. this isn't big money
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 05:03 PM
Feb 2020

this is a lot of small donations from citizens. Nice try, though

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
10. How much was in dark money?
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:33 PM
Feb 2020

How is having Our Revolution breaking the law consistent with the values Sen. Sanders claims to hold?

Or is it OK to break Federal tax and campaign laws when Bernie does it?



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ProfessorPlum

(11,256 posts)
13. do you have any proof of dark money in that sum
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 05:04 PM
Feb 2020

or are you just making stuff up/pulling shit straight from your ass/sewing discord/making unfounded claims?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
15. Common Cause didn't file an FEC complaint for nothing.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 05:09 PM
Feb 2020

Do you think the most respected watchdog that battles illegal campaign financing is just pulling stuff "out of their ass?"

Or is it OK when Bernie does it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ProfessorPlum

(11,256 posts)
16. so, no proof then, but an investigation
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 05:10 PM
Feb 2020

and no, nothing is ok because someone particular does it. let's see where the facts take us before we make claims shall we?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OneMoreCupOfCoffee

(314 posts)
18. Plenty of evidence. You think Common Cause files complains without evidence?
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 05:44 PM
Feb 2020

Really?

Our Revolution has been acting like an illegal Super PAC in direct contravention of their 501.C4 status.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
20. None. These are individual donations to his campaign. They are all reported.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 05:49 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
11. So money in politics is an evil thing until it isn't?
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:34 PM
Feb 2020

Yeah, okay sure...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ProfessorPlum

(11,256 posts)
14. this comment is idiotic, bordering on brain-dead
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 05:06 PM
Feb 2020

I know that you personally aren't as asinine as the comment.

Your assignment is to explain the difference between "money in politics" as in large groups buying control of our government to favor big groups like corporations, unions, banks, etc.

versus

getting millions of small donations from people all over the economic spectrum.

Five pages, double spaced. Go!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
19. I can't write that essay without mentioning Bernie's PAC
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 05:46 PM
Feb 2020

and before I write it I also need to know how much of it is *Republican* money... You know, for the sake of transparency and all that... So when you find that info, get back to me.

And FWIW, I've long been an advocate of public-funded elections, but since nobody wants to even entertain that conversation anymore, we'll table it for later.

Now back over to you and your insults!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ProfessorPlum

(11,256 posts)
21. Sanders' campaign is essentially publicly funded
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:02 AM
Feb 2020

and I agree with your advocacy for publicly funded elections.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
17. Kicked and recommended.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 05:12 PM
Feb 2020

Thanks for the thread ProfessorPlum.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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