*****DEBATE THREAD #4*****

[MustLoveBeagles]

Debate thread 3 is over 100 replies already, so I thought I'd start another one.



https://abcnews.go.com/Live

[dalton99a]

1. Kick

[BootinUp]

2. Steyer eating time because he can afford it. Nt

[squirecam]

3. Amy hits Steyer back

Again brings up N.H. and that the agreement wasn’t perfect but was necessary.

[Chemisse]

29. You can't lose bring up NH and praising the senators there. n/t

[lunasun]

4. Bathroom break .. Thanks for these threads

[BeyondGeography]

5. Amy is a blast

Who does that?

[squirecam]

8. Amy hit Steyer well

Being in the arena and in an alliance means compromise

[MerryBlooms]

16. Amy and Liz are wicked smaht.

[Chemisse]

32. She's doing quite well tonight.

She's relatively relaxed.

[blm]

33. ✔️

[scheming daemons]

6. I know she's my candidate.... But Amy is winning the debate, by far

Steyer is trying to prove he has the most black friends.


Joe started strong, but is fading.


Pete has been very solid, except a little shaky on the drug busts in South Bend question


Bernie just keeps shouting his standard stump speech. Tired and dull.


Yang should just go home. He's useless, and his "pardon Trump" answer was a campaign killer


Liz has been solid.




But Amy is clearly the best tonight. I am sorry she doesn't have more support.

[squirecam]

9. Amy is going great

But Yang lost when he floated a trump pardon.

[sprinkleeninow]

14. I'm liking Amy again tonite.

Not unconsidering Joe, but this showing is not sitting as well with me and I can't explain why.

Pete, Amy and Mike....

[question everything]

19. Agree. I thought that Sanders was very arrogant to claim that he knows

What best for the ones who will benefit from the new “nafta.”

[still_one]

63. Appreciate the objective assessment for those of us who can't watch

[krissey]

75. I really wish she was doing better in the polls.

[zackymilly]

7. Is everyone getting equal time? Seems like Joe and Yang have been pushed aside. nt

[squirecam]

10. Yangs only answer is $1000

You aren’t missing much.

[zackymilly]

13. lol nt

[emmaverybo]

15. Ha Hal Historic one-issue, all-purpose answer. Easiest solution to what ails us.

[we can do it]

22. You forgot pardoning drump.

And drump isn’t the problem it’s economic anxiety.🤮🤮🤮

[maximusveritas]

23. He found a new answer: zero

that'll be his polling number after this performance.

[redqueen]

70. Again, Steyer is correct that Trump is already hammering on the booming economy

as a talking point.

So Yang's hammering on the fact that 78% of us live paycheck to paycheck and how to change that as fast as possible is smart.

[Blaukraut]

11. real time speaking time tracking here

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/07/politics/dem-debate-speaking-time-february/index.html

[DesertRat]

79. Biden had the most speaking time. Yang had the least

I just posted the final speaking times. https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287488319

[scheming daemons]

12. Steyer is pathetic. "I agree with Bernie! I have the most black friends!"

[nature-lover]

17. Candidate time so far from New York Times

Candidates’ Speaking Time So Far Last updated at 10:13 p.m. EST

Sanders
18:25
Biden
17:44
Buttigieg
17:09
Klobuchar
14:24
Warren
14:25
Yang
6:27
Steyer
12:08

[BootinUp]

18. Worst performances so far

Warren. Her ideas and style will never win a national election. Plays fairly well in a primary though.

Steyer. I think he just gets a thrill being there and having the mike.

[BeyondGeography]

25. Pete gets the stinker of the night award for having no answer on POC pot arrests

You were saying?

[BootinUp]

30. U stopped listening then. He answered it fully. Nt

[BeyondGeography]

36. He had no answer. It was pathetic actually.

[BootinUp]

54. Only if you think the problem being discussed has no challenges.

Based on my observations Pete uses real problem solving skills and if he explains his approach and it makes sense thats not pathetic, its the thinking we need.

[BeyondGeography]

61. Axelrod just said South Bend keeps coming up

And that Pete hasn’t come up with a good answer on race issues in South Bend yet.

[BootinUp]

67. I've been there, have u? It's South Bend IN

Yeah there are issues. I believe he’s served 2 terms there. And when he talks about what he has done it all makes sense. I haven’t seen a gaffe from him in a year. He disputed her statistics so I’m sure they will be coming out with some kind of fuller statement.

[squirecam]

31. Worst has got to be Yang

Nt

[highplainsdem]

20. Thanks for the new thread!

[emmaverybo]

21. Need to give pre-schoolers 1,000 dollars. Will get them lots of candy and the candy sellers

prosper and next thing you know no more racism, poverty, sexism, or wars.

[MustLoveBeagles]

28. Oh my

[Blue_true]

73. No more problems because everyone would starve for having no teeth. nt

[emmaverybo]

80. And then there's that! The downside.

[squirecam]

24. Yang gets one final question on child poverty

And he doesn’t give his $1000 answer for once.

Kinda rambles without saying it.

[zackymilly]

27. I was disappointed.

[squirecam]

35. You playing a $1000 response drinking game?

Nt

[emmaverybo]

45. Hah hah.me too.

[PatSeg]

38. You're cracking me up!!!

[fishwax]

26. We need to disentangle economic value and human value. They are not the same things.

[Blue_true]

74. Bernie and Yang seem to think so. nt

[highplainsdem]

34. Biden: "They're all our children."

[highplainsdem]

37. Annnnnnd Bernie's back to the stump speech again.

[PatSeg]

39. I wish they would try to not

go into stump speech mode.

[Skittles]

83. one trick pony

[highplainsdem]

40. Amy: "I know you, and I will fight for you." Great line.

[squirecam]

41. Amy makes a personal pitch and brings up an FDR story

Fantastic answer and it tugged on the heart strings. Said she will fight for them.

She gets loud cheers.

I think the style between her answer and Bernies 1% was important. She was very uplifting.

[MerryBlooms]

44. Amy's awesome tonight.

[UniteFightBack]

47. That was from her 'victory' speech after Iowa which was good. nt

[nolabear]

42. Dammit, Amy...

That was poetry.

[JudyM]

48. It was her best answer tonight.

[elleng]

43. 'I know you.'

[Glimmer of Hope]

46. Damn Amy! What a night.

[squirecam]

51. And THAT

Is why I support Amy. She was fantastic.

[scheming daemons]

49. Amy really should have more support than she does

She was by far the best of this debate. It really wasn't close.... nobody was a close second.


Her final answer, like someone else said, was pure poetry.



We need Amy.

[pattyloutwo]

50. She's been so great tonight!

I might have to switch my preference back 😊

[livetohike]

52. This was the best debate so far, imo. n/t

[Jersey Devil]

53. Amy knocked ot out of the park with her finish

Excelent

[PatSeg]

55. Thank you for the debate threads!!!

[we can do it]

56. Super job Amy!!

[nolabear]

57. ABC commentators said Amy had a breakout night.

I’m glad.

[lunasun]

58. Amy walked right out like Yeah I won this debate gotta go now

She will get a debate bounce from tonight imo

[rockfordfile]

59. They all were great.

Biden had a really good night.

[Kali]

60. from a truly objective, I-will-take-any-of-them view...

Klobechar did the best, followed by Warren

(although I did not watch the beginning)

[riversedge]

62. Fact check: Warren claims 36 million Americans can't afford prescription drugs

seems to be even more that she stated.



Live Updates
Democratic debate in New Hampshire

By Fernando Alfonso III and Veronica Rocha, CNN
Updated 10:32 p.m. ET, February 7, 2020

8 min ago
Fact check: Warren claims 36 million Americans can't afford prescription drugs


https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/democratic-debate-live/index.html

From CNN's Tami Luhby

Joe Raedle/Getty Images


The high cost of health care was front and center at the Democratic debate in New Hampshire Friday night.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren said that “36 million Americans last year couldn’t afford to have a prescription filled, and that includes people with health insurance.”

Facts first: Multiple studies show that millions of Americans can’t afford their medications. While it’s unclear which study Warren is referencing, Warren’s campaign did previously tell PolitiFact that she was referencing a 2019 Commonwealth Fund report when she made a similar point late last year. And by that measure she’s close — that report found that 37 million adults age 19 to 64 did not fill a prescription in 2018 because of cost. The study notes that many people with insurance coverage still face financial difficulties because they have high deductibles or out-of-pocket costs. 

Other studies also show that Americans have trouble affording their prescription drugs. A 2019 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report found that 11.4% of adults age 18 to 64 did not take their medication as prescribed to reduce costs in 2017, while 19.5% asked their doctor for a lower-cost alternative.

Meanwhile, a 2019 survey from Gallup and West Health found that 58 million adults reported an inability to pay for needed drugs in past year.

One bright spot: Things used to be worse. Before the Affordable Care Act went to effect in 2014, even more Americans had trouble filling prescriptions, according to the Commonwealth report. In 2012, some 50 million people did not fill their prescriptions.  

President Trump and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have said they want to reduce the cost of prescription drugs, but little has been done.

[SunSeeker]

78. Wow. This is a huge American problem. Thanks for the post. nt

[riversedge]

81. I vacillate between saying just FIX the ACA and #MFA. With Trump's suit in court against

the ACA and pre=existing conditions, I am very scared--and have been for LONG time.

[SunSeeker]

82. I vacillate between hope and despair every day...since Nov. 8, 2016.

[MustLoveBeagles]

64. Joe did great tonight (yes I'm prejudiced)

So did Amy.

[PatSeg]

71. Very good!

I'm prejudiced as well and I also thought Amy was outstanding.

[squirecam]

65. Amy is getting love

from Hayes undecided group

[TreadSoftly]

66. Wow! Informative debate and now Emanuel and Christie

Is the thread hunting round for the analysis by ABC news?

This was by far the best debate this year.

Thanks to the thread moderator, really appreciate you!!!

[lunasun]

68. Listening now I don't agree with Joe Biden having a bad night but do agree with Christie on Pete

Like I ever thought I’d agree with Christie 😳

[MustLoveBeagles]

69. I haven't watched all of the post debate commentary

The general consensus is that Amy did very well. That was my conclusion as well. And welcome to DU.

[PatSeg]

72. Welcome to DU!

I switched to MSNBC as soon as the debate was over. Chris Hayes is talking to New Hampshire voters. Its like a town hall.

[DesertRat]

76. Welcome to DU!

[krissey]

77. It seems like Amy is often the winner of the debates.