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Quackers

(2,256 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:32 PM Feb 2020

Bloomberg was worth $54.1B in November. Now it's $61.5B

Is he making money off of running for President or is $7B a normal return on investment after a few months? Honestly, I’m asking. I don’t know. That amount of money is out of my level of expertise.

Source: https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a25781489/michael-bloomberg-net-worth/

https://www.forbes.com/profile/michael-bloomberg/?list=billionaires#40e5e7914178



A few other questions.

He supported stop and frisk, even defending it after he left office. He finally backtracked in November and apologized. What changed?

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/17/us/politics/michael-bloomberg-speech.html

Michael Bloomberg said; “Ive never supported raising the minimum wage”. In December, he backtracked and now supports a $15 minimum wage. What changed?


He is buying up all the ad time he can and churning out commercial after commercial that paints him in the perfect light. He hasn’t debated with any of the other candidates. Has he even held a town hall or rally or anything where people can submit questions to him?

He literally is buying this election. He is even paying Instagram influencers to say nice things about him. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/feb/07/mike-bloomberg-2020-campaign-instagram-influencers


He also said this during an interview in September 2018.
“It’s impossible to conceive that I could run as a Republican — things like choice, so many of the issues, I’m just way away from where the Republican Party is today,” Mr. Bloomberg said. “That’s not to say I’m with the Democratic Party on everything, but I don’t see how you could possibly run as a Republican. So if you ran, yeah, you’d have to run as a Democrat.”

So is the party just a thing of convenience for him to met his end goals?


Am I the only one that has alarm bells going off in my head over this guy? Our candidates, our Democratic candidates are being squeezed out because of him. They can’t outspend him. No way in hell can they drop the amount of money he is going to. All our candidates have is the donations we send and the support we give. Our candidates answer to us or risk losing it all. Who is Bloomberg accountable to?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Bloomberg was worth $54.1B in November. Now it's $61.5B (Original Post) Quackers Feb 2020 OP
I have mixed feelings about him - OhZone Feb 2020 #1
Dump has such a head start in the money dept. and he's dirty. nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #12
That is mark to market net worth. Lucky Luciano Feb 2020 #2
I despise #TraitorTrump underthematrix Feb 2020 #4
Why do you like him after what was just posted above? DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #11
I'm an African American woman underthematrix Feb 2020 #18
Great post. safeinOhio Feb 2020 #19
You said that far better than I ever could. Thank you for saying it. Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #31
Me too at this point. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #26
I am not a fan of Bloomberg by any means, but I think his wealth goes us up and down a lot. phleshdef Feb 2020 #3
I'm not a fan of the political power of wealth. But, safeinOhio Feb 2020 #20
I will admit that it's at least mildly amusing that Trump's dumping money into the ads greenjar_01 Feb 2020 #5
Win/Win aeromanKC Feb 2020 #6
His portfolio shouldn't be growing and it's not goid for the people DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #14
He's helping in getting a Democatic Senate and Iliyah Feb 2020 #7
This is why it's silly to calculate rich people's wealth that way Recursion Feb 2020 #8
since cheating on elections is now legal lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #9
lol Cha Feb 2020 #13
Before the Iraq war lapfog_1 Feb 2020 #16
Thanks for sharing these links. I have read a lot about Stop and Frisk and his enduring defense of emmaverybo Feb 2020 #10
When you have a lot of money invested it just keeps growing, plus trump gave him a big tax cut TeamPooka Feb 2020 #15
Every day we severely underestimate the advantages of incumbency Awsi Dooger Feb 2020 #17
" I am desperate to win. Details mean nothing except who owns that best chance." Quackers Feb 2020 #23
Desperate times call for desperate measures. safeinOhio Feb 2020 #21
Even over racism? I can't excuse Bloomberg for his actions. Quackers Feb 2020 #22
Others have history too. safeinOhio Feb 2020 #29
I guess that's two primary candidates now for whom being a Democrat MineralMan Feb 2020 #24
Yeah but only one ACTUALLY supported republicans and has viral clips redqueen Feb 2020 #25
I can't argue with that. nt Quackers Feb 2020 #27
Just please keep in mind: he invented something, like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs Mike 03 Feb 2020 #28
He is so uber wealthy the difference between Tom Steyer ($1.6b) and Bloomberg ($55b) is the same Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #30
 

OhZone

(3,216 posts)
1. I have mixed feelings about him -
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:34 PM
Feb 2020

but he has tRump's number and can obviously afford to spend a billion or two on defeating him.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
12. Dump has such a head start in the money dept. and he's dirty. nt
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:41 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Lucky Luciano

(11,496 posts)
2. That is mark to market net worth.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:36 PM
Feb 2020

The market is on fire. His company is therefore worth more like most ultra billionaires. Running for president helps with marketing too.

I despise his stop and frisk too, but he is saying all the right things right now which helps deliver us from the orange menace and the red neck brigades.

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Undecided
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
4. I despise #TraitorTrump
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:41 PM
Feb 2020


I like Mike Bloomberg. He's my second choice candidate.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
11. Why do you like him after what was just posted above?
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:38 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
18. I'm an African American woman
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:34 AM
Feb 2020

BLOOMBERG is NOT afraid of BLACK EXCELLENCE. Like JOE BIDEN, he embraces it.
He is qualified to be president
He passes the 3C-test - Character, Competence and Capacity (Capacity is about the candidate's ability to put together the most qualified most ethical executive branch leadership team.)
BLOOMBERG recognizes that there's a black wealth class, middle class, working class and underclass. He understands we want to give folks on the bottom rung a hand up while expanding access and opportunity to those on a higher rung.

He has a working relationship with President Obama, the most important of which is My Brother's Keeper.

His is a message of hope and restoration.

What he said about juvenile crime is true. I know this because I used to run community based criminal justice programs for black youth. This is based on DATA. Solving the problem is complex. If you want to understand why watch Iyanla Vanzant on OWN. No one breaks it down better than her.

I'm a mature well educated voter with a high level of emotional intelligence. So much of the stuff on here is middle school nonsense. We're talking about saving our Republic. I don't give a damn what any of these candidates said six minutes ago.

I'm choosing from candidates who can form the broadest coalition and have the skills to assume the presidency day one. There are only three - BIDEN, BLOOMBERG and BENNET.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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safeinOhio

(34,358 posts)
19. Great post.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:57 AM
Feb 2020

I love it when someone can say what I think much better than me.

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Vivienne235729

(3,736 posts)
31. You said that far better than I ever could. Thank you for saying it.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:23 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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redstatebluegirl

(12,503 posts)
26. Me too at this point.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:47 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
3. I am not a fan of Bloomberg by any means, but I think his wealth goes us up and down a lot.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:37 PM
Feb 2020

When you are that rich and a lot of it is based on investment, that isn't unusual.

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safeinOhio

(34,358 posts)
20. I'm not a fan of the political power of wealth. But,
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:03 AM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg may be the answer to ending Citizens United. If wealth ends republican power, they might oppose it in politics for a change.

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greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
5. I will admit that it's at least mildly amusing that Trump's dumping money into the ads
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:45 PM
Feb 2020

against himself. Bloomberg could spend another 300, 400, 600 million without batting an eye.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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aeromanKC

(3,494 posts)
6. Win/Win
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:47 PM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg win over Trump is a win for America!!! If his portfolio indirectly grows as a result then good for him. AS LONG as it isn't like trump who directly benefits by charging secret service for rooms at his hotel kind of thing. It's not an emoluments issue with Bloomberg.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
14. His portfolio shouldn't be growing and it's not goid for the people
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:46 AM
Feb 2020

Do you realize that MOST of the companies Bloomberg invests in, and Bloomberg himself, pay a lower percentage of taxes than we do? Warren Buffett said he pays less than his secretary (and to his credit says the system is rigged).

Bloomberg's pile of money is unacceptable. Since Citizens United the United States is turning into an oligarchy. These are facts. It's not acceptable.

Much better Democratic candidates have been fighting hard and have had to drop out due to lack of funds — Harris, Booker and maybe now Warren. None of this makes me happy

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Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. He's helping in getting a Democatic Senate and
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:48 PM
Feb 2020

keeping the House . .

10+

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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
8. This is why it's silly to calculate rich people's wealth that way
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:49 PM
Feb 2020

That's based on multiplying the number of shares he owns by how much somebody was willing to pay for one share yesterday. It has little to no bearing on reality.

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lapfog_1

(30,239 posts)
9. since cheating on elections is now legal
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:51 PM
Feb 2020

Mike can hand out $500 to every voter and win in an enormous landslide... and still have more money than Trump.

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Cha

(305,866 posts)
13. lol
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:42 AM
Feb 2020

sorry.. you post struck me funny.. 'cause why the hell not with the impeached treasonous idiot in power?

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lapfog_1

(30,239 posts)
16. Before the Iraq war
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:51 AM
Feb 2020

I wrote a post saying that instead of invading, we should put up a checkpoint at the borders of Iraq... and pay every man, woman, and child $10,000 to leave Iraq and not return and to give up any claims to the land of Iraq or it's resources.

After a few months, then we invade and take the rest prisoner.

20,000,000 people or $200,000,000,000.

It would have worked... cost us about 10% of what the war actually cost us and secured for us the Iraq oil reserves.

With almost no loss of life or destruction of property.

In retrospect, a pretty good idea.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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emmaverybo

(8,147 posts)
10. Thanks for sharing these links. I have read a lot about Stop and Frisk and his enduring defense of
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:09 AM
Feb 2020

it as well as his claim, utterly unfounded, that it brought down the crime rate. A few months before he apologized to the AA community he’d so impacted, according to NYT, he was still unapologetic about the policy and, in fact, laughed at the idea of “an apology tour.”

Apparently, what changed was that he decided to run.

Personally, I don’t trust him, don’t see him as a savior, and find the idea that he can buy the nomination sad. It is also true that he is a media mogul, so a huge advantage there. I’d rather a
Sanders presidency if my guy can’t get in.

Snip———————————————————

OPINION
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG
STOP AND FRISK
A few Sundays ago, former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg popped his head into the Christian Cultural Center in Brooklyn and said something I genuinely didn't see coming. The trip came amid swirling rumors that Bloomberg was, once again, considering a run for president in 2020, this time as a Democrat. Those of us who follow politics closely have seen this movie before: Just about every four years, Bloomberg very publicly ponders the prospect of running for president, only to decide at the last minute that he doesn't want to do it. This time, though, is different.

Bloomberg, like other billionaires, has been vocal in recent months about exactly how little he likes the proposals from Senator Elizabeth Warren and Senator Bernie Sanders to tax extreme wealth. He, like Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos, is apparently gravely concerned that the Democratic Party is moving too far left, and doesn't think demonizing the rich is going to get us anywhere. Which is why Bloomberg decided to go to a megachurch in Brooklyn and tell the mostly black audience he had changed his mind: The most controversial policy of his mayoral tenure, stop-and-frisk, had been a mistake after all.

This was a policy Bloomberg had defended tooth and nail for years. In fact, he had gone to that same church in 2012 and declared unequivocally that stop-and-frisk saves lives, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary and objections from racial justice and civil liberties advocates who argued, correctly, that the policy was unconstitutional.

But when I saw what Bloomberg said, I thought one thing immediately: This guy really wants to be the president.

https://www.newsweek.com/bloomberg-defended-stop-frisk-years-now-hes-sorry-give-me-break-opinion-1474523

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TeamPooka

(25,439 posts)
15. When you have a lot of money invested it just keeps growing, plus trump gave him a big tax cut
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:46 AM
Feb 2020
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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
17. Every day we severely underestimate the advantages of incumbency
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:09 AM
Feb 2020

I view defeating a presidential incumbent as a gift, a surreal bonus.

That's why I don't care about any of these attachments to Bloomberg. We need to get across the finish line.

None of our others candidates are even close to ideal. They wouldn't be ideal in an open race, let alone versus an incumbent.

I am desperate to win. Details mean nothing except who owns that best chance. We don't want to be sitting here stunned in the fall as our more pure nominee is steadily giving way.

Dominating the airwaves and the monetary aspect isn't teflon but it's the closest thing we would have seen in forever.

I'm reminded of that old commercial, "Try it...you'll like it"

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Quackers

(2,256 posts)
23. " I am desperate to win. Details mean nothing except who owns that best chance."
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:41 AM
Feb 2020

I respect your opinion but disagree. We shouldn’t be choosing our nominee based on how deep his pockets are, but by their actions.

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safeinOhio

(34,358 posts)
21. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:14 AM
Feb 2020

Bloomberg is super rich, but also sane and if the most likely to beat tRump, I'll go with the desperate measures every time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Quackers

(2,256 posts)
22. Even over racism? I can't excuse Bloomberg for his actions.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:39 AM
Feb 2020

Money’s not everything.

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safeinOhio

(34,358 posts)
29. Others have history too.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:05 PM
Feb 2020

All are better than what we have. We are stuck with Citizens United and we have a chance to use it against the Publicans. If it takes couple of billions to win, we’ve found it.

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MineralMan

(148,034 posts)
24. I guess that's two primary candidates now for whom being a Democrat
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:44 AM
Feb 2020

is a matter of convenience, eh?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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redqueen

(115,172 posts)
25. Yeah but only one ACTUALLY supported republicans and has viral clips
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:46 AM
Feb 2020

of him spouting racist right-wing views about crime.

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Quackers

(2,256 posts)
27. I can't argue with that. nt
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:49 AM
Feb 2020
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Mike 03

(17,388 posts)
28. Just please keep in mind: he invented something, like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:49 AM
Feb 2020

He invented a hybrid computer/service called the "Bloomberg Terminal," and it's an object that is still in high demand. He also created "Bloomberg News" and all those things that go along with it.

Then Bloomberg LP invests the money it makes, and that generates new money.

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Nanjeanne

(5,464 posts)
30. He is so uber wealthy the difference between Tom Steyer ($1.6b) and Bloomberg ($55b) is the same
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:12 PM
Feb 2020

as between a guy making $50,000 a year and a guy making $1.7 million.

And Tom is rich!

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