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UncleNoel

(864 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:42 AM Feb 2020

Okay, let's get started. Here are the most recent aggregate polls for SC and NV

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#South_Carolina_primary
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#Nevada_caucus

Joe has a strong lead in SC and Joe and Bernie are head to head in Nevada.

We have to see how the upcoming polls play out after Iowa and NH results for Pete, Amy and Liz.

1. South Carolina. Joe a good deal ahead.



2. Nevada. Joe and Bernie back and forth, but polls are old. Bernie might get a bounce here.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Okay, let's get started. Here are the most recent aggregate polls for SC and NV (Original Post) UncleNoel Feb 2020 OP
Those numbers are about to move. LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #1
Pete has an AA problem in SC and Amy has not polled well with AA voters either. UncleNoel Feb 2020 #6
Which was a known factor in those polls... LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #11
Kick for Biden Cha Feb 2020 #2
Didn't you hear? ... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #10
What we know so far ... Biden 'voters' don't show up. denem Feb 2020 #3
When was he leading in the polls in Iowa and NH? UncleNoel Feb 2020 #8
Certainly was, on more than a few occasions. denem Feb 2020 #9
Nevada is a closed primary. Dems went blue in two out of 16 counties in 2016. ancianita Feb 2020 #4
Well, I think Klobuchar may be the one getting a bounce obamanut2012 Feb 2020 #5
Old polls are like old fish 4139 Feb 2020 #7
Doubly so with Biden. LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #12
538 is predicting a Sanders win in both states now. LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #13
Worthless squirecam Feb 2020 #15
538 is rubbish. BlueIdaho Feb 2020 #16
You go, Joe. Laelth Feb 2020 #14
 

LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
1. Those numbers are about to move.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:53 AM
Feb 2020

Two 5th place finishes by Biden, Pete's strong showing and Klobuchar's performance are not reflected yet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

UncleNoel

(864 posts)
6. Pete has an AA problem in SC and Amy has not polled well with AA voters either.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:11 AM
Feb 2020

I read that in NH Amy got college educated and white women votes. SC and Nevada are different demographics.

See how it plays out in Nevada though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
11. Which was a known factor in those polls...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:41 AM
Feb 2020

Are you saying Pete and Amy won't get a bump for strong performance or outright winning Iowa?
Are you saying voters won't factor in a FIFTH pace finish for Biden? Not third or fourth, FIFTH.
Are you saying their campaigning in SC and NV won't boost their numbers?
Are you saying that those NV poll numbers from January won't change?

Joe was the "White working man's guy" when Obama selected him and fifth place says he doesn't have it anymore. Don't you think Africans Americans, who value electability, won't notice that? So far, he has performed below expectations and historically he has not performed well at all. Pete and Amy have exceeded expectations by a long shot.

Those numbers will move.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,342 posts)
10. Didn't you hear? ...
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:41 AM
Feb 2020

Joe spoke, or something, in NH and therefore he's done.
Liz didn't speak enough, or something, and therefore she's done.
Amy may or may not have spoke, and therefore she's done.
(Apparently poor Tom Steyer didn't even rate being asked to step aside).

It's all over!! Everybody must drop out for the good of ... um... SOMETHING!

We should send notices and appropriate condolences to the other 48 states because Iowa and New Hampshire have spoken for everybody.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
3. What we know so far ... Biden 'voters' don't show up.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:59 AM
Feb 2020

He may be leading in the polls, but finishes 4th and 5th.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UncleNoel

(864 posts)
8. When was he leading in the polls in Iowa and NH?
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:17 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
9. Certainly was, on more than a few occasions.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:24 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
4. Nevada is a closed primary. Dems went blue in two out of 16 counties in 2016.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 08:59 AM
Feb 2020

Nevada registered voters Statewide:

Dems 698,044
Repub 587,198
Ind 82,406
Lib 19,011
Non 423,911
Other 16,816

Grand Total 1,827,386

I can see why the ground game goes to the richest candidates, since there aren't that many votes to go around.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

obamanut2012

(26,069 posts)
5. Well, I think Klobuchar may be the one getting a bounce
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:05 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

4139

(1,893 posts)
7. Old polls are like old fish
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:15 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
12. Doubly so with Biden.
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 09:46 AM
Feb 2020

He has fallen 8 points in SC since Feb. 1.

The full effect of his two FIFTH PLACE finishes has yet to appear.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
13. 538 is predicting a Sanders win in both states now.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 04:08 PM
Feb 2020

"Sanders is forecasted to win an average of 31% of the vote in South Carolina. In 80% of simulations, he wins between 16% and 48% of the vote. He has a 1 in 2 (53%) chance of winning the most votes, a bit better than the second most likely winner, Biden, who has a 1 in 3 (32%) chance."

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/south-carolina/


"Sanders is forecasted to win an average of 40% of the vote in Nevada. In 80% of simulations, he wins between 22% and 58% of the vote. He has a 2 in 3 (68%) chance of winning the most votes, much better than the second most likely winner, Biden, who has a 1 in 7 (15%) chance."

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/nevada/

Details are at the links.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
15. Worthless
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:58 PM
Feb 2020

No polling from NV for a month.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
16. 538 is rubbish.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 07:05 PM
Feb 2020

I’m sorry but they swing like a weather vane trying to catch a lucky break. Their last prediction before Iowa was for a Biden win. On the night of the caucus they re-wrote the headline.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
14. You go, Joe.
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 06:55 PM
Feb 2020

This is a team sport. Ultimately, I am on Joe's team. There's a long way to go, and we shall see what we see.



-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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