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Stare Decisis

(229 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:43 AM Apr 2019

WAPO-Ally Coll-Joe Biden Squeezed Her Shoulders And Held Them "For A Beat Too Long."

Ally Coll said she was a young Democratic staffer helping run a reception of about 50 people when Biden entered the room. She said she was then introduced to Biden, who she said leaned in, squeezed her shoulders and delivered a compliment about her smile, holding her “for a beat too long.”


I am leaving this here because a major newspaper thought this was a woman "coming forward." Their words, not mine. That's it-this is what we are arguing about. If this is what happened there is nothing to apologize about, Joe. Any man over 35 has likely done similar. I will wait for about 7 gazillion women to come forward to end my career for hugging them or being too flirty in a way no rational humans could ever be expected to anticipate.

The more they talk, the less seriously I take it.

Coming forward? I swear we are days from, "Inappropriate look sends young woman into therapy." "He winked at me. My fee fees were shaken. But, but my agency."

Agency is important. It should be respected. But if you want to move the agency goal posts to an endzone that reads, "No human contact allowed," you will not be taken seriously.

The psychological damage abuse does is incalculable. How DARE someone attach "MeToo to this garbage. It trivializes real suffering.

And Ally Coll's claim of truth simply is not important enough to me to risk this party losing the next election. Not more than me, my family, and the entire nation-sorry not sorry.

I don't doubt her. I don't dispute her story.

I. JUST. DON'T. CARE.

That's my truth.

THAT"S MY VOTER AGENCY AT WORK.

Guess which one wins out?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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WAPO-Ally Coll-Joe Biden Squeezed Her Shoulders And Held Them "For A Beat Too Long." (Original Post) Stare Decisis Apr 2019 OP
I haven't seen anyone "attach" MeToo to these things... jberryhill Apr 2019 #1
Well.. Stare Decisis Apr 2019 #2
Ah, the complicated phrase must be hard to untangle jberryhill Apr 2019 #3
"A beat too long" madaboutharry Apr 2019 #4
Heh. Stare Decisis Apr 2019 #5
It means it verged into the creep zone Blues Heron Apr 2019 #12
It had no meaning and is a generic attack. Sounds dumb embarrassed for this person. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #14
Oh BeyondGeography Apr 2019 #6
Oh, for Christ's sake! JaneQPublic Apr 2019 #7
"I swear, we are days from, "inappropriate look.... dubyadiprecession Apr 2019 #8
They used that one on Franken. Judging from the pile up it isn't Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #10
Here- Stare Decisis Apr 2019 #13
Thank you. A beat to long and the picture speaks for itself, Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #15
#FOWDC Amy! flotsam Apr 2019 #9
This is an incredibly stupid strategy. It's going to get Trump re-elected. yardwork Apr 2019 #11
It is embarrassing for women. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #17
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. I haven't seen anyone "attach" MeToo to these things...
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:47 AM
Apr 2019

...other than persons hostile to MeToo.

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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Ah, the complicated phrase must be hard to untangle
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:52 AM
Apr 2019

That sort of "touchy feely" thing was inappropriate in workplaces prior to MeToo as well, but that use of the phrase is as a chronological marker.
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madaboutharry

(40,284 posts)
4. "A beat too long"
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 08:53 AM
Apr 2019

What does that even mean?



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Blues Heron

(5,987 posts)
12. It means it verged into the creep zone
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:32 AM
Apr 2019

not that hard to decipher

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Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
14. It had no meaning and is a generic attack. Sounds dumb embarrassed for this person.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:48 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
7. Oh, for Christ's sake!
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:06 AM
Apr 2019

I'm sorry, but this is pure balderdash.

We have a scumbag in the White House with credible accusations by 16-plus women who say he put his hands up their pants, walked in on teenage beauty contestants while they were undressed, and did plenty other things equally bad.

And we're supposed to clutch our pearls over a great guy who held someone's shoulders "a beat too long"?

Incredible.

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dubyadiprecession

(5,847 posts)
8. "I swear, we are days from, "inappropriate look....
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:18 AM
Apr 2019

Sends woman into therapy.” He winked at me and my fee fees were shaken.”

This will be the sad reality one day.

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Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
10. They used that one on Franken. Judging from the pile up it isn't
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:30 AM
Apr 2019

wor king on Joe. The last two are so ridiculous.

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Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
15. Thank you. A beat to long and the picture speaks for itself,
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:52 AM
Apr 2019

Do these women understand that they are undermining women? Less women will be hired in corporate jobs...me to is likely dead after the false reports beginning with Franken.

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flotsam

(3,268 posts)
9. #FOWDC Amy!
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:28 AM
Apr 2019

Fuck off! We don't care!

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yardwork

(62,027 posts)
11. This is an incredibly stupid strategy. It's going to get Trump re-elected.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:31 AM
Apr 2019

I'm seriously angry with the people "coming forward" with these ridiculous complaints. I'm a woman and a proud feminist.

This needs to stop.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
16. It is embarrassing for women.
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 09:54 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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