Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWAPO-Ally Coll-Joe Biden Squeezed Her Shoulders And Held Them "For A Beat Too Long."
Ally Coll said she was a young Democratic staffer helping run a reception of about 50 people when Biden entered the room. She said she was then introduced to Biden, who she said leaned in, squeezed her shoulders and delivered a compliment about her smile, holding her for a beat too long.
I am leaving this here because a major newspaper thought this was a woman "coming forward." Their words, not mine. That's it-this is what we are arguing about. If this is what happened there is nothing to apologize about, Joe. Any man over 35 has likely done similar. I will wait for about 7 gazillion women to come forward to end my career for hugging them or being too flirty in a way no rational humans could ever be expected to anticipate.
The more they talk, the less seriously I take it.
Coming forward? I swear we are days from, "Inappropriate look sends young woman into therapy." "He winked at me. My fee fees were shaken. But, but my agency."
Agency is important. It should be respected. But if you want to move the agency goal posts to an endzone that reads, "No human contact allowed," you will not be taken seriously.
The psychological damage abuse does is incalculable. How DARE someone attach "MeToo to this garbage. It trivializes real suffering.
And Ally Coll's claim of truth simply is not important enough to me to risk this party losing the next election. Not more than me, my family, and the entire nation-sorry not sorry.
I don't doubt her. I don't dispute her story.
I. JUST. DON'T. CARE.
That's my truth.
THAT"S MY VOTER AGENCY AT WORK.
Guess which one wins out?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...other than persons hostile to MeToo.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Stare Decisis
(229 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)That sort of "touchy feely" thing was inappropriate in workplaces prior to MeToo as well, but that use of the phrase is as a chronological marker.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)What does that even mean?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Stare Decisis
(229 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blues Heron
(5,931 posts)not that hard to decipher
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)I'm sorry, but this is pure balderdash.
We have a scumbag in the White House with credible accusations by 16-plus women who say he put his hands up their pants, walked in on teenage beauty contestants while they were undressed, and did plenty other things equally bad.
And we're supposed to clutch our pearls over a great guy who held someone's shoulders "a beat too long"?
Incredible.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dubyadiprecession
(5,707 posts)Sends woman into therapy. He winked at me and my fee fees were shaken.
This will be the sad reality one day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)wor king on Joe. The last two are so ridiculous.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Stare Decisis
(229 posts)You might want to check this one out!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/128752789
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Do these women understand that they are undermining women? Less women will be hired in corporate jobs...me to is likely dead after the false reports beginning with Franken.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flotsam
(3,268 posts)Fuck off! We don't care!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(61,599 posts)I'm seriously angry with the people "coming forward" with these ridiculous complaints. I'm a woman and a proud feminist.
This needs to stop.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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