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I don't like being lectured by Bernie Sanders. (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2020 OP
Sanders campaign has clearly concluded that the heat he's taking for hiding his medical records RandySF Feb 2020 #1
Kinda like you know who's tax returns redstateblues Feb 2020 #2
Otherwise it would be so simple to release them like Cha Feb 2020 #4
This has even bothered my 26-year-old daughter who till this was 1000% for Bernie renate Feb 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author DinahMoeHum Feb 2020 #35
Listen to his message and not the tone Perseus Feb 2020 #3
I don't either, but people make similar remarks about tulipsandroses Feb 2020 #5
I had Professors - in many disciplines - that sounded like Bernie. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2020 #7
Then don't vote for him! Paka Feb 2020 #20
100%!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #38
And the finger waving. Ugh. Nt MANative Feb 2020 #24
omg thats the worse....his campaign manager and his wife also give me the willies... samnsara Feb 2020 #41
I do find him lecturing. And scolding. calimary Feb 2020 #8
This. cwydro Feb 2020 #22
I have listened to his message. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #11
Yes. He's very clear on what he wants to do. Not so much on how to do it. Squinch Feb 2020 #31
Where was he while being in congress for 30 years. Never heard of him. katmondoo Feb 2020 #34
Did BS say that a regressive payroll tax will partially pay for his healthcare plan, lapucelle Feb 2020 #37
Ok. You're entitled to feel that way. berni_mccoy Feb 2020 #6
That's what makes DU so muchly goddam interesting! OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2020 #9
but he's so cute when he turns purple nt msongs Feb 2020 #10
The "lecturing" ... NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #12
He was ranting. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #14
But ... NanceGreggs Feb 2020 #15
Ranting lectures. Harangues. Always, but hey, online news sources calling his performance a win. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #16
+1, the ranting is filibustering so he doesn't answer straight questions uponit7771 Feb 2020 #29
Why don't the others on stage point out this fact... SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2020 #17
If he gets the nomination KT2000 Feb 2020 #18
me three samnsara Feb 2020 #42
Me too. betsuni Feb 2020 #19
Sanders has a strange aura MFM008 Feb 2020 #21
Yes, I've seen that type of behavior on FB as well. Very cult-like... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #26
+1, Pete had a point when he said its a pattern with Sanders supporters. They fight at Sanders uponit7771 Feb 2020 #28
some of the followers are not who they pretend to be..sadly i imagine lot of the males.. samnsara Feb 2020 #44
Why?? honest.abe Feb 2020 #23
Finger wagging and scolding and lecturing is a big turn-off for many people. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #25
Condescending bossiness is not a good thing. betsuni Feb 2020 #30
It's something that people do to compensate for other areas in which they may feel... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #33
His convictions are ... NOT ... backed up by facts that people want uponit7771 Feb 2020 #27
I also find sanders to be nonpersuasive Gothmog Feb 2020 #32
No wonder he can't get shit done in the Senate all these years. . . DinahMoeHum Feb 2020 #36
Bernie's not going to be an easy sell to American voters. nt oasis Feb 2020 #39
he lectures to me too. another old white guy pointing his finger at me and judging me.. samnsara Feb 2020 #40
Yes, and he absolutely falls apart when questioned. It's amazing he hasn't R B Garr Feb 2020 #43
Don't take it personally. I doubt he was talking to you. You like him or don't. Autumn Feb 2020 #45
Kick Cha Feb 2020 #46
If you clap harder, he won't yell at you anymore dalton99a Feb 2020 #47
BS is hard of hearing, and people hard of hearing shout so they can hear themselves onetexan Feb 2020 #48
 

RandySF

(58,823 posts)
1. Sanders campaign has clearly concluded that the heat he's taking for hiding his medical records
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:07 AM
Feb 2020

is not as bad as what's in them.

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redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
2. Kinda like you know who's tax returns
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:08 AM
Feb 2020
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Cha

(297,221 posts)
4. Otherwise it would be so simple to release them like
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:12 AM
Feb 2020

he said he was going to.


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renate

(13,776 posts)
13. This has even bothered my 26-year-old daughter who till this was 1000% for Bernie
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:45 AM
Feb 2020

She’s probably the exception, but before this she was firmly, and I mean FIRMLY, in the “Bernie can literally do no wrong” camp. But Bernie’s agenda is #2 to her; #1 is getting rid of Trump. Some of Bernie’s supporters might have that the other way around.

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Perseus

(4,341 posts)
3. Listen to his message and not the tone
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:08 AM
Feb 2020

He is very clear of what he wants to do, I don’t find him lecturing, but that is me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
5. I don't either, but people make similar remarks about
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:13 AM
Feb 2020

Sen Warren - she comes off as a professor to some people - I like that quality in Sen Warren, more of a teacher not someone lecturing me is what I find in Sen Warren. I love the fighting spirit in Sen Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OAITW r.2.0

(24,494 posts)
7. I had Professors - in many disciplines - that sounded like Bernie.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:14 AM
Feb 2020

It was all rhetorical, nothing actionable.....for me. He irritates me.

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Paka

(2,760 posts)
20. Then don't vote for him!
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:55 AM
Feb 2020

He doesn't irritate me. I've waited 60 years to vote for him and feel privileged for this opportunity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
38. 100%!!
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:11 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MANative

(4,112 posts)
24. And the finger waving. Ugh. Nt
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:09 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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samnsara

(17,622 posts)
41. omg thats the worse....his campaign manager and his wife also give me the willies...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:43 AM
Feb 2020

..as a Counselor I used to work with kids about good choices.. and to trust that 'uh oh feeling in your stomach'..i get that feeling with some of those folks..

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calimary

(81,265 posts)
8. I do find him lecturing. And scolding.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:14 AM
Feb 2020

And I was sick of it four years ago.

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sheshe2

(83,761 posts)
11. I have listened to his message.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:37 AM
Feb 2020

He said he will release his medical history after his heart attack in an interview with Gupta. Then announced he would not in a town hall.

Promises broken.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
31. Yes. He's very clear on what he wants to do. Not so much on how to do it.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:38 AM
Feb 2020

And the hectoring tone is purposely used to try to hide that.

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katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
34. Where was he while being in congress for 30 years. Never heard of him.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:49 AM
Feb 2020

Now he is the Savior

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lapucelle

(18,258 posts)
37. Did BS say that a regressive payroll tax will partially pay for his healthcare plan,
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:53 AM
Feb 2020

or did people mishear him?

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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
6. Ok. You're entitled to feel that way.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:13 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

OAITW r.2.0

(24,494 posts)
9. That's what makes DU so muchly goddam interesting!
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:19 AM
Feb 2020

A collection of real people voicing their opinions.

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msongs

(67,405 posts)
10. but he's so cute when he turns purple nt
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:20 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
12. The "lecturing" ...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 02:44 AM
Feb 2020

... was the first thing that put me off Bernie.

Sadly, it wasn't the last.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
15. But ...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:06 AM
Feb 2020

... when is he not?

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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
16. Ranting lectures. Harangues. Always, but hey, online news sources calling his performance a win.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:00 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
29. +1, the ranting is filibustering so he doesn't answer straight questions
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:24 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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SleeplessinSoCal

(9,120 posts)
17. Why don't the others on stage point out this fact...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:21 AM
Feb 2020

Countries like Canada have private insurance too. Makes me nuts.

https://thinkprogress.org/can-canadians-purchase-private-health-insurance-coverage-ed7a25f9c602/


"Just like Medicare beneficiaries who protest against “government health care,” protesters who use Canadian care as an example of “government interference” or rationing, will be surprised to learn that the Canadian health care system relies on both government and private insurers to provide Canadians with comprehensive coverage."

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KT2000

(20,577 posts)
18. If he gets the nomination
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 04:25 AM
Feb 2020

I would vote for him but I would have to turn the station whenever he was on TV as president. The pointing finger and delivery is indeed irritating. His demeanor is that he know more than everyone else.

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MFM008

(19,808 posts)
21. Sanders has a strange aura
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 06:21 AM
Feb 2020

of get offa my lawn about him.
plus some of his followers are loopy.
Some guy told me on Facebook to F- off when I said
I had no money/ time to give, but I would vote for him if he was the nominee.
Not good enough I guess.
to bad.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
26. Yes, I've seen that type of behavior on FB as well. Very cult-like...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:18 AM
Feb 2020

Yes, I've seen that type of behavior on FB as well. Very cult-like in their "no-dissent" and "no-criticism" beliefs and loyalty. It seems familiar in a disturbing way, but I can't put my finger on it.

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uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
28. +1, Pete had a point when he said its a pattern with Sanders supporters. They fight at Sanders
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:23 AM
Feb 2020

... rallies

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samnsara

(17,622 posts)
44. some of the followers are not who they pretend to be..sadly i imagine lot of the males..
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:49 AM
Feb 2020

..have MAGA hats and switch roles to suit them.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. Finger wagging and scolding and lecturing is a big turn-off for many people.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:16 AM
Feb 2020

It's demeaning. It's lording. It's insulting. It's irritating. I don't blame you for feeling that way. Nobody likes that type of sour and bossy behavior. My entire family feels the same way, and that's just one of the many reasons they give for refusing to support him.

All I'm saying is, it's definitely a weakness and it's not a personality trait that people want in a POTUS. That type of bossiness and aggressiveness does not indicate that dignity and respect will be brought back to the White House. He lacks the temperament and demeanor that people long for.

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betsuni

(25,519 posts)
30. Condescending bossiness is not a good thing.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:28 AM
Feb 2020

I like intellectuals and experts and people who know what the hell they're talking about.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
33. It's something that people do to compensate for other areas in which they may feel...
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:47 AM
Feb 2020

It's something that people do to compensate for other areas in which they may feel inadequate. By being bossy and aggressive (for instance) or by being rude and interrupting (for instance) a person may be able to "take control" of a discussion in such a way that they never have to reveal their lack of knowledge on a particular subject matter. Rather than having a rational discussion, that type of person prefers to bully people into submission.

Haven't we had enough of that already?

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Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
27. His convictions are ... NOT ... backed up by facts that people want
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:22 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
32. I also find sanders to be nonpersuasive
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:41 AM
Feb 2020

There is a reason why sanders has zero significant legislative accomplishments in the real world

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DinahMoeHum

(21,787 posts)
36. No wonder he can't get shit done in the Senate all these years. . .
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:51 AM
Feb 2020

. . .he can't build consensus. . .unlike a certain other candidate who is a real Democrat.

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oasis

(49,386 posts)
39. Bernie's not going to be an easy sell to American voters. nt
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:14 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
40. he lectures to me too. another old white guy pointing his finger at me and judging me..
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:18 AM
Feb 2020

..isnt someone Im going to support. Buy if hes the Dem nom yep I'll hold my nose and vote for him...but no $ support and NO bumpersticker..

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R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
43. Yes, and he absolutely falls apart when questioned. It's amazing he hasn't
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:48 AM
Feb 2020

been challenged more like last night because he hides behind his superficial and repetitive talking points.

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Autumn

(45,084 posts)
45. Don't take it personally. I doubt he was talking to you. You like him or don't.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 11:52 AM
Feb 2020

And it's fine either way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dalton99a

(81,486 posts)
47. If you clap harder, he won't yell at you anymore
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:55 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
48. BS is hard of hearing, and people hard of hearing shout so they can hear themselves
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:03 PM
Feb 2020

this is why he comes across as an angry uncle all the time. Well for a man whose accomplished little in his political career,
you gotta hand it to him that he managed to sway mostly young people with empty promises.

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