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George II

(67,782 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:02 PM Feb 2020

Elizabeth Warren reverses her position on super PAC support as she seeks comeback

LAS VEGAS – Sen. Elizabeth Warren reversed her position on rejecting super PAC support on Thursday as she seeks a comeback in the Democratic presidential primary.

Warren, who has previously said that she would disavow the support of a super PAC that sought to aid her bid for the presidency, told reporters that she had changed her mind after failing to get her rivals to join her in repudiating the outside spending groups.

The reversal is a dramatic change of heart for the Massachusetts progressive. Warren boasted during the Democratic debate in New Hampshire earlier this month that only she and Sen. Amy Klobuchar lacked super PAC backers.

But, on Thursday, Warren said that the fact that only the "two women" didn't have super PAC support was "just not right."

"So here's where I stand. If all the candidates want to get rid of super PACs, count me in. I'll lead the charge," Warren said. "But that's how it has to be. It can't be the case that a bunch of people keep them and only one or two don't."


https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/02/20/elizabeth-warren-reverses-her-position-on-super-pac-support.html
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Elizabeth Warren reverses her position on super PAC support as she seeks comeback (Original Post) George II Feb 2020 OP
poor Kamala Harris. Warren's purity tests helped push her out. nt jezebel321 Feb 2020 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author denem Feb 2020 #3
That's not why Harris left blm Feb 2020 #16
pretty good statement but the timing isn't great. :I Kurt V. Feb 2020 #2
wow Cha Feb 2020 #4
Ditto. Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #8
Oh dear. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #5
Oh yes, now that its convenient for her she's doing an aboutface onetexan Feb 2020 #9
She should have understood this on day one. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #6
That's not a reversal. She still supports the end of super pacs, but she's not pnwmom Feb 2020 #7
Uh huh. OilemFirchen Feb 2020 #10
How is she supposed to stop a pac that she's not cooperating with? pnwmom Feb 2020 #13
Don't know what you mean by "not cooperating with". OilemFirchen Feb 2020 #14
Next stop: wine cave. n/t Steelrolled Feb 2020 #11
You read my mind. George II Feb 2020 #12
Super PACs for me, but not for thee. tritsofme Feb 2020 #15
Are wine caves okay now? Gothmog Feb 2020 #17
Again? How many times is she for something and then against it? question everything Feb 2020 #18
Apparently "Positions All Over The Place" is the new black. :) nt Sloumeau Feb 2020 #19
Warren: "I do not believe in unilateral disarmament" denem Feb 2020 #20
 

jezebel321

(278 posts)
1. poor Kamala Harris. Warren's purity tests helped push her out. nt
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:03 PM
Feb 2020
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blm

(113,071 posts)
16. That's not why Harris left
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:30 PM
Feb 2020
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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
2. pretty good statement but the timing isn't great. :I
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:05 PM
Feb 2020
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onetexan

(13,044 posts)
9. Oh yes, now that its convenient for her she's doing an aboutface
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:05 PM
Feb 2020
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TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
6. She should have understood this on day one.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:55 PM
Feb 2020

Post-Citizens United, it takes massive amounts of cash - and a lot of help - to accomplish anything. Take what you can get because you're going to need it. Even Bernie Sanders, who complains about Super PACs perhaps more than anyone, gets help from Our Revolution, one he *founded*.

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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
7. That's not a reversal. She still supports the end of super pacs, but she's not
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 08:56 PM
Feb 2020

for unilateral disarmament.

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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
10. Uh huh.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:18 PM
Feb 2020
Elizabeth Warren
March 4, 2019 ·

My campaign finance rules for the Democratic primary:

❌No PAC money
❌No federal lobbyist money
❌No special access for wealthy donors
❌No asking billionaires to start a Super PAC

I challenge every other candidate to do the same thing.


https://www.facebook.com/ElizabethWarren/posts/10156353635508687?comment_id=10156354027543687&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D
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pnwmom

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13. How is she supposed to stop a pac that she's not cooperating with?
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:35 PM
Feb 2020

Bernie, on the other hand, set up Our Revolution, which is dark money -- even less regulated than a pac.

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OilemFirchen

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14. Don't know what you mean by "not cooperating with".
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:02 PM
Feb 2020

Candidates cannot coordinate with PACs. They can, however, receive money and other in-kind contributions from them - which she now (appropriately) is "willing" to accept.

That said, her campaign has been the recipient of support from the Progressive Change Campaign Committee (which includes a PAC and a Super PAC) since she first ran for office, and continuing throughout her Presidential campaign.

That Senator Sanders is a hypocrite on this issue should come as no surprise to anyone. Senator Warren no longer is, so she should be commended for her current stance.

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Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
11. Next stop: wine cave. n/t
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 09:24 PM
Feb 2020
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tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
15. Super PACs for me, but not for thee.
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:05 PM
Feb 2020

Maybe wine caves are suddenly in vogue!

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Gothmog

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17. Are wine caves okay now?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:10 AM
Feb 2020
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question everything

(47,488 posts)
18. Again? How many times is she for something and then against it?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:20 PM
Feb 2020
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Sloumeau

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19. Apparently "Positions All Over The Place" is the new black. :) nt
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:25 PM
Feb 2020
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denem

(11,045 posts)
20. Warren: "I do not believe in unilateral disarmament"
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:31 PM
Feb 2020

Warren has stated repeatedly she will attend big donor fundraisers, and welcome Super PAC support in the Gernal election.

When Amy Klobuchar, the other candidate standing without a Super PAC (excepting Bloomberg), made her announcement about 'Kitchen Table Conversations', Warren's disarmament came to an end.

The wisdom of keeping big donors at arms length during the primaries was well illustrated by Bloomberg telling the donor circuit to 'sit out' donating to Biden, Buttigieg and Klobuchar.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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