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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:32 AM Feb 2020

Warren or Sanders?

I like the gutsy, sassy, classy woman. She persists.

She nailed it last night and stood all 5'8 of her, taller than the men. She stood for women when she nailed Bloomberg.

Brilliant woman that has accomplished more than anyone on that stage and that was long before she became The Senior Senator of MA. She grabbed that seat back from Scottie Brown, former Cosmopolitan centerfold, eeeew.

Fact. The Consumer Financial Protection Agency was all hers. She did it before she was a SENATOR! ACCOMPLISHMENT EXTRAORDINAIRE!



Fact. One issue I disagreed with her on was M4A. She came up honestly with a plan to make it happen, Sanders refused. She has since backed off on her strong stance that it is the only way forward. She is for incremental steps and I believe she will be expanding on ACA first. The rest can happen over time.

Super Tuesday I will be voting for her. I was at the Town Hall today to request a ballot for my soon to be 94 year old mom. My family votes Democratic.

VOTE!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Warren or Sanders? (Original Post) sheshe2 Feb 2020 OP
Warren MontanaMama Feb 2020 #1
... sheshe2 Feb 2020 #14
Warren relayerbob Feb 2020 #2
I decided awhile ago. MisterFred Feb 2020 #3
That's pretty much where I'm at, and barring something extraordinary, it'll be Sanders. Garrett78 Feb 2020 #6
It will never be the right time for that woman. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #19
She is a badass, and I will vote for her with great enthusiasm given the chance ramen Feb 2020 #72
Thanks 😊 ramen. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #96
That's exactly where I stand. But my primary is not until May 19 KPN Feb 2020 #53
That's voting the horse race. Buzz cook Feb 2020 #81
Well, I like 'em both. MisterFred Feb 2020 #95
Warren beats this president Tweedy Feb 2020 #112
I agree Warren beats this president. nt MisterFred Feb 2020 #136
Warren of those 2 IcyPeas Feb 2020 #4
President Warren MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #5
I truly think that, of the candidates left Docreed2003 Feb 2020 #7
I agree. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #22
The Democrat. Mme. Defarge Feb 2020 #8
Your Senator denem Feb 2020 #9
Yep. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #23
I'd choose Warren if forced, although either likely ensures trump II and puts House at risk. Hoyt Feb 2020 #10
Yes. If either is the final choice... VarryOn Feb 2020 #13
Guess you haven't seen the polls. Sanders leads against Trump with double digits DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #43
Yeah, I've seen some. VarryOn Feb 2020 #57
Warren happybird Feb 2020 #11
I'm fine with either but more closely align with Sanders. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #12
Consumer Financial Protection Agency Moderateguy Feb 2020 #15
FACT!!!!!!! sheshe2 Feb 2020 #25
Not a fact!!! Sanders has accomplished a lot, including changing the narrative. DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #49
What has he accomplished? sheshe2 Feb 2020 #54
You're falling prey to a Republican meme. DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #119
Nope. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #121
Your logic is all over the place. It's fun though! DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #132
You are loads of fun too. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #133
SMH... ehrnst Feb 2020 #135
Not a fact. Sanders eschews teamwork and castigated needed compromise grantcart Feb 2020 #82
".... but that's about it." DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #118
Senator Warren has been making that point Tweedy Feb 2020 #113
You're falling prey to a meme. DemocracyMouse Feb 2020 #116
Just the facts, here Tweedy Feb 2020 #120
I'm not sure the number of exclamation marks and capital letters ramen Feb 2020 #73
Aaaaah. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #76
The weeping emoji, though, is ramen Feb 2020 #77
;) sheshe2 Feb 2020 #83
If that is my only choice Warren nt doc03 Feb 2020 #16
I'm a moderate. But I cannot understand why any progressive would prefer Sanders to Warren. CalFione Feb 2020 #17
M4A Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #21
So you rather support a candidate who's not going to be able to deliver Moderateguy Feb 2020 #24
Who says Sanders can't compromise? Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #28
The reason that Bernie sticks to his guns... Woodycall Feb 2020 #64
Agreed. Don't give up leverage to appease people who will never vote for you. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #66
No Tweedy Feb 2020 #115
Sanders did not refute Tweedy Feb 2020 #114
Winner!!! sheshe2 Feb 2020 #29
A) Liz is for M4A CalFione Feb 2020 #35
So has Bernie. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #36
So with that issue being a wash... there's no real reason to support Bernie over Warren... CalFione Feb 2020 #37
She's never really been fully committed to M4A. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #40
Why would anyone want crabby, shouty old Bernie, The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #18
This! sheshe2 Feb 2020 #30
If you were a Sanders supporter, someone might say that your rudeness reflected your candidate. Bonobo Feb 2020 #31
Warren, but Bernie stands a zentrum Feb 2020 #20
Leftists are getting less than 50% in the democratic primaries Moderateguy Feb 2020 #26
That seems so obvious to many of us. Desert grandma Feb 2020 #45
Independents. Latinos. Voters under 45. JudyM Feb 2020 #128
Given today's news I do not trust these polls Moderateguy Feb 2020 #129
Are you suggesting the Russians are interfering with independent pollsters? JudyM Feb 2020 #134
Honestly, I would happily support a Warren-Sanders ticket. Bonobo Feb 2020 #27
Nope. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #32
I am with you sheshe and I agree. I too had the issue with M4A and was glad to see her shift on krissey Feb 2020 #33
Fluid is good. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #38
Warren and Bernie are both great, but I think Bernie has a better chance of beating trump. jg10003 Feb 2020 #34
Nope. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #46
Most polls seem to support that position, unfortunately democrattotheend Feb 2020 #63
Yes, well...polls. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #69
Warren! stage left Feb 2020 #39
Warren kcr Feb 2020 #41
Damn! I missed it SCantiGOP Feb 2020 #42
Never said it was just two. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #50
Warren. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #44
The Democrat!!!! sheshe2 Feb 2020 #48
Warren Lucid Dreamer Feb 2020 #47
Warren! renate Feb 2020 #51
Liz over Bernie for one simple reason: she has a plan. mwooldri Feb 2020 #52
I agree, mwooldri freepotter Feb 2020 #74
Definitely Warren. n/t musicblind Feb 2020 #55
I'm slowly leaning toward Warren, but I'll also back ANY candidate the majority chooses. C Moon Feb 2020 #56
I will vote for any Democrat. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #58
Warren redstateblues Feb 2020 #59
Warren Horizens Feb 2020 #60
I already voted by mail Starry Messenger Feb 2020 #61
Yes! sheshe2 Feb 2020 #65
Warren karin_sj Feb 2020 #62
Just got my ballot caraher Feb 2020 #67
WARREN Over Bernie Easily... TomCADem Feb 2020 #68
Thank you Tom!!!!!! sheshe2 Feb 2020 #71
Neither. I want to beat Trump!! aeromanKC Feb 2020 #70
+1000 UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #75
+1,000,000!!!!! blue-wave Feb 2020 #86
Chocolate or cyanide? grantcart Feb 2020 #78
Had the Warren from last night been at the last 5 debates... mtron32 Feb 2020 #79
Warren in a walk. Buzz cook Feb 2020 #80
Thank you Buzz! sheshe2 Feb 2020 #84
Warren. She is the registered Democrat DIVINEprividence Feb 2020 #85
Guess MFM008 Feb 2020 #87
Warren hands down. we can do it Feb 2020 #88
I got off the Sanders/Warren fence and chose Warren after the NV debate aikoaiko Feb 2020 #89
Definitely Warren. Squinch Feb 2020 #90
I would be happy with either; from March 2019 until early January I had Warren as my preference Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #91
Warren. nt DesertRat Feb 2020 #92
Warren all the way. Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #93
;) sheshe2 Feb 2020 #99
Warren will work FOR us and WITH others (meaning, our Congress). Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2020 #94
+1000 sheshe2 Feb 2020 #100
Warren colsohlibgal Feb 2020 #97
Boom! sheshe2 Feb 2020 #98
The one that isn't a evertonfc Feb 2020 #101
Warren. I don't like that Bernie hired Tad Davine in 2016 33taw Feb 2020 #102
I'm With You Me. Feb 2020 #103
I'm with HER. lapucelle Feb 2020 #104
Her town hall last night. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #106
She's on fire! lapucelle Feb 2020 #107
Yep. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #109
Sanders in the primary, the Democratic nominee in the general. Meadowoak Feb 2020 #105
Warren. Croney Feb 2020 #108
Warren. gibraltar72 Feb 2020 #110
Senator Warren Tweedy Feb 2020 #111
Warren marlakay Feb 2020 #117
WARREN ALL DAY. Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #122
Yes! sheshe2 Feb 2020 #123
Hi sheshe! Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #124
Hey, Vivienne. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #125
Warren! Mme. Defarge Feb 2020 #126
Thanks, Mme. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #127
I really like both mvd Feb 2020 #130
You don't even need to ask. Anon-C Feb 2020 #131
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
14. ...
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:48 AM
Feb 2020

I love Amy too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MisterFred

(525 posts)
3. I decided awhile ago.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:35 AM
Feb 2020

About six months ago I decided that I'd vote for whoever was ahead, Warren or Sanders, come Super Tuesday.

I like Warren - but I've seen nothing to change my mind about supporting the leading progressive candidate whoever that is since then.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
6. That's pretty much where I'm at, and barring something extraordinary, it'll be Sanders.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:37 AM
Feb 2020

Warren finishing in single digits in New Hampshire (after a so-so showing in Iowa) was pretty devastating.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
19. It will never be the right time for that woman.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:57 AM
Feb 2020

Never. Even when she is bigger better and brighter, it will never be the time.

Never.

That makes me incredibly sad. It gives me no faith for the direction of this country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ramen

(790 posts)
72. She is a badass, and I will vote for her with great enthusiasm given the chance
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:56 AM
Feb 2020

Her performance last night was stellar.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
96. Thanks 😊 ramen.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:44 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,646 posts)
53. That's exactly where I stand. But my primary is not until May 19
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:47 AM
Feb 2020

here in Oregon. Currently, Id support Sanders, but deep 19 will likely get my vote.down I want Warren to succeed. She’s so darned smart and a great communicator when she gets inspired. Sanders is consistent as hell and never gets distracted from his message, goals or purpose. They are both admirable and deserving candidates. Whoever is most viable on May 19 will get my vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Buzz cook

(2,472 posts)
81. That's voting the horse race.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:19 AM
Feb 2020

Nothing wrong with that. I think the primaries should be about who we think would be the best president.

As far as I can see that's Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MisterFred

(525 posts)
95. Well, I like 'em both.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:37 PM
Feb 2020

I limited my choices to those two because they're pretty close to best president for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tweedy

(628 posts)
112. Warren beats this president
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:34 PM
Feb 2020

More effectively than she defeated former Mayor Bloomberg.

We need the wisdom of the American people, here. There is such a wisdom. It is wide and it is deep. It is found inside each of us and all of us thrown together.

I cannot claim to have a handle on that.

Nonetheless, I can assure you from the bottom of my heart that wisdom comes not from polls. Wisdom comes from inside yourself.

Please utilize your own wisdom to decide which candidate is the right one for this moment.

If you still choose Bernie, your choice will mean more to you imho.

You will be exercising your right to self government.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MisterFred

(525 posts)
136. I agree Warren beats this president. nt
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:51 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
5. President Warren
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:36 AM
Feb 2020

Persistence is beautiful.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Docreed2003

(16,866 posts)
7. I truly think that, of the candidates left
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:38 AM
Feb 2020

Warren is the best choice to unite the party across all spectrums.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
22. I agree.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:59 AM
Feb 2020

They won't even give THAT woman a chance.

I watched her town hall tonight. She was amazing.

Thanks, Doc.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
9. Your Senator
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:40 AM
Feb 2020

Elizabeth Ann Warren

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
23. Yep.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:00 AM
Feb 2020

Thanks, denem.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. I'd choose Warren if forced, although either likely ensures trump II and puts House at risk.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:41 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
13. Yes. If either is the final choice...
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:46 AM
Feb 2020

Not a good sign. Guess I'd flip a coin.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
43. Guess you haven't seen the polls. Sanders leads against Trump with double digits
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:34 AM
Feb 2020

I like both Sanders and Warren. They'd make a great team.... and bring back Harris for AG!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
57. Yeah, I've seen some.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:52 AM
Feb 2020

They just havent been challenged by the other side. Anyone unchallenged will look swell against Orange Man at this point.

Those polls will be more meaningful o e our nominee is nailed down and has taken some blows from the Trump machine. That's my point. Not a criticism of either W or S.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
12. I'm fine with either but more closely align with Sanders.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:43 AM
Feb 2020

I'd hardly complain if Warren took it instead.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
15. Consumer Financial Protection Agency
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:50 AM
Feb 2020

So, unlike Sanders she actually has accomplished something

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
25. FACT!!!!!!!
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:02 AM
Feb 2020

Welcome to DU!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
49. Not a fact!!! Sanders has accomplished a lot, including changing the narrative.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:41 AM
Feb 2020

All the the candidates have absorbed and reference Sander's poignant statements about the immorality of extreme inequality in America. He received a huge applause on the matter last night in the debates.

Warren or Sanders for President/VP!
Harris for AG!

Bring back the middle class! Tax the fat cats again!

Go America!!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
54. What has he accomplished?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:47 AM
Feb 2020
DemocracyMouse
49. Not a fact!!! Sanders has accomplished a lot, including changing the narrative.


Changing the narrative,? Nope. Dems have been there for years and have actually made it better including CPFB. Bernie rails about the banks. Warren did something about that. Talking is great, doing is better.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
119. You're falling prey to a Republican meme.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:06 AM
Feb 2020

A "thin record of voting" is a meme created by Republican source who also, quite viciously, called Michelle Obama a male ape.

According to Snopes:

What's True
Only a fraction of the proposed bills sponsored by Senators Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Cory Booker (D-NJ), Kamala Harris (D-CA), and Bernie Sanders ( D-VT) have been passed by Congress.

What's False
This phenomenon is not unique to these four senators (as only a very small fraction of all proposed legislation ends up being passed), and the statistics included in the meme are outdated

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
121. Nope.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:27 AM
Feb 2020
DemocracyMouse
119. You're falling prey to a Republican meme.

A "thin record of voting" is a meme created by Republican source who also, quite viciously, called Michelle Obama a male ape.


Non answer, you segue to Michelle being called an ape to avoid a question. What is that about? Why would you even bring that up? I sourced no one yet you say I sourced a REPUBLICAN meme that called Michelle a male ape. That is disgusting. That is beneath a DUer to slur me in that way.

My question was:

sheshe2 (62,529 posts)
54. What has he accomplished?

DemocracyMouse
49. Not a fact!!! Sanders has accomplished a lot, including changing the narrative.


Changing the narrative,? Nope. Dems have been there for years and have actually made it better including CPFB. Bernie rails about the banks. Warren did something about that. Talking is great, doing is better.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
132. Your logic is all over the place. It's fun though!
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:13 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
133. You are loads of fun too.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:26 AM
Feb 2020

Michelle is a male ape. Out of nowhere you called Michelle a male ape. Nothing I posted previously lead to that. You did it all on your own. I never mentioned Republican memes. That was you.

DemocracyMouse (2,226 posts)
119. You're falling prey to a Republican meme.

A "thin record of voting" is a meme created by Republican source who also, quite viciously, called Michelle Obama a male ape.

According to Snopes:

What's True
Only a fraction of the proposed bills sponsored by Senators Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Cory Booker (D-NJ), Kamala Harris (D-CA), and Bernie Sanders ( D-VT) have been passed by Congress.

What's False
This phenomenon is not unique to these four senators (as only a very small fraction of all proposed legislation ends up being passed), and the statistics included in the meme are outdated

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
135. SMH...
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:35 AM
Feb 2020

Good lord.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
82. Not a fact. Sanders eschews teamwork and castigated needed compromise
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:25 AM
Feb 2020

Sanders is disliked by his colleagues. When he ran 4 years ago he got one pity endorsement from one Democratic Senator and was not endorsed by a large number of Vermont politicians.

He was successful in helping the NRA pass the bill giving gun manufacturers immunity from Civil law suits but that's about it.

In 2012 he proudly stated that he wasn't a Democrat but if the Democrats had any sense they should primary President Obama.

Warren can unite the party. Sanders, the interloper, will fracture the party. In the end Sanders won't get it but Sanders will be the embittered loser and help Trump get re elected.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
118. ".... but that's about it."
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:04 AM
Feb 2020

You're falling prey to a meme.

A "thin record of voting" is a meme created by Republican source who also called Michelle Obama a male ape.

According to Snopes:

What's True
Only a fraction of the proposed bills sponsored by Senators Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Cory Booker (D-NJ), Kamala Harris (D-CA), and Bernie Sanders ( D-VT) have been passed by Congress.

What's False
This phenomenon is not unique to these four senators (as only a very small fraction of all proposed legislation ends up being passed), and the statistics included in the meme are outdated

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tweedy

(628 posts)
113. Senator Warren has been making that point
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:40 PM
Feb 2020

For what seems like my whole life

President Obama made it too.

Really, that message has been with me since I was wee.

I do believe it was born in the 1960's.

Bernie does see our problems well. His legislative record is very thin, though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
116. You're falling prey to a meme.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:02 AM
Feb 2020

A "thin record of voting" is a meme created by Republican source who also, viciously, called Michelle Obama a male ape.

According to Snopes:

What's True
Only a fraction of the proposed bills sponsored by Senators Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), Cory Booker (D-NJ), Kamala Harris (D-CA), and Bernie Sanders ( D-VT) have been passed by Congress.

What's False
This phenomenon is not unique to these four senators (as only a very small fraction of all proposed legislation ends up being passed), and the statistics included in the meme are outdated

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tweedy

(628 posts)
120. Just the facts, here
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:24 AM
Feb 2020

On what subject did Senator Sanders seriously try to legislate?

Where is Bernie's campaign finance reform bill?

Election security bill?

Have been watching Congress fretfully for years (since before the fall of Glass-Steagall). I even read the senate record 🤓.

Yet, somehow, some way, Bernie's heroic proposed legislation escaped me. What was it? More than one?

His M4A looks like a messaging bill right now, which could be intentional. It is dispiriting.

Amy Klobuchar has what, 4-5? How many does Bernie Sanders have waiting out there? Do tell. Anxiously awaiting.

Curious how I fell for a meme, friend.

Not a fan of twitter, Facebook or cable news. There are no teenagers in my house.

Alas, I no longer get congressional quarterly.

If Bernie Sanders made some big legislative push that I missed do tell. I highly doubt I did. I am aware he proposes a lot of amendments-- hardly Russ Feingold, but better than nothing.

You do know Bernie has been an "establishment" politician (in that he is, & has been, undeniably, a member of the political establishment) for a long time?

You also know Senators Harris, Booker and Warren have been part of the "Washington establishment" (hello 1960!) for a shorter time period than Senator Sanders?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ramen

(790 posts)
73. I'm not sure the number of exclamation marks and capital letters
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:58 AM
Feb 2020

equate to factuality, necessarily. It's not a magic spell.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ramen

(790 posts)
77. The weeping emoji, though, is
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:08 AM
Feb 2020

notoriously incontrovertible. You have me there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

doc03

(35,351 posts)
16. If that is my only choice Warren nt
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:50 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CalFione

(571 posts)
17. I'm a moderate. But I cannot understand why any progressive would prefer Sanders to Warren.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:50 AM
Feb 2020

There is nothing about Sanders that is better than Warren, even from the point of view of the farthest left progressive.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
24. So you rather support a candidate who's not going to be able to deliver
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:00 AM
Feb 2020

Over a candidate who might compromise and get you some of what you want?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
28. Who says Sanders can't compromise?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:03 AM
Feb 2020

Listen, everyone pushes their policy when they're running--everyone. A lot of that will never happen. But if you start from a better position, you have more leverage during negotiation.

I want M4A to happen and I'm hopeful it can. But I am also okay with a compromise if the full fat M4A isn't viable in congress.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Woodycall

(259 posts)
64. The reason that Bernie sticks to his guns...
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:36 AM
Feb 2020

is that for years and years he has watched the Dems negotiate by starting in the middle, and then compromising to the right!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
66. Agreed. Don't give up leverage to appease people who will never vote for you.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:40 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tweedy

(628 posts)
115. No
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:55 PM
Feb 2020

Look at his record

Senator Sanders has a habit of making the perfect the enemy of the ever so much better.

See his desire to primary president Obama.

I have been listening to Bernie for years. His list of problems is long & fairly prescient. His list of solutions is thin, vague and full of catchphrases from the 1960's ("establishment," how heavy man).
He is adorable, stubborn and inclined to believe those who disagree with him are "establishment" by definition.

This is not the moment to elect a gadfly like Sanders, no matter how adorable he may be.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tweedy

(628 posts)
114. Sanders did not refute
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:48 PM
Feb 2020

Senator Warren at the debate when she said his advisers said M4A isn't going to happen anyway.

Senator Warren will get things done.

Bernie will blame us when nothing changes for failing to revolutionize for it, I am afraid. He will blame other democrats.
He won't be in the senate, or on "breakfast with Bernie" doing it either. This will hurt democrats up & down the ballot.

The midterms will come. Democrats will get shellacked & our healthcare opportunity will be lost once more.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
29. Winner!!!
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:03 AM
Feb 2020

Thanks again!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CalFione

(571 posts)
35. A) Liz is for M4A
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:23 AM
Feb 2020

B) Liz actually has outlined how she'll pay for it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

CalFione

(571 posts)
37. So with that issue being a wash... there's no real reason to support Bernie over Warren...
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:27 AM
Feb 2020

...since she is a better candidate in every other way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
40. She's never really been fully committed to M4A.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:31 AM
Feb 2020

(https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/01/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-medicare-for-all.html)

And that's not the only difference.

I think Sanders is stronger against the military industrial complex.


As I say always, I would not be unhappy with Warren. But I'm more closely aligned with Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,754 posts)
18. Why would anyone want crabby, shouty old Bernie,
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:52 AM
Feb 2020

the guy who hasn't had an original thought since he was attending SWP meetings in the '60s and whose accomplishments in Congress consist of naming a couple of post offices, when you could have Warren, a brilliant woman who has actually accomplished things in her life?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
31. If you were a Sanders supporter, someone might say that your rudeness reflected your candidate.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:05 AM
Feb 2020

Fortunately I think such statements are a load of crap.

Your rudeness reflects only upon yourself.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
20. Warren, but Bernie stands a
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:57 AM
Feb 2020

.....better chance of beating Trump, I think.

She'd be one of our greatest Presidents.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
26. Leftists are getting less than 50% in the democratic primaries
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:03 AM
Feb 2020

What makes you think they’re somehow going win in a GE where people who actively hate their ideas will also be voting

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Desert grandma

(804 posts)
45. That seems so obvious to many of us.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:36 AM
Feb 2020

I have nothing against Sanders or Warren or their ideas. Like you, I do not think there is any way either one could win a GE. We took the House in 2018 by running mostly moderate/centrist candidates that won. The far left progressive candidates that Bernie and his group supported LOST for the most part. I find it totally incredulous that those supporting Bernie or Elizabeth don't understand that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
128. Independents. Latinos. Voters under 45.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:56 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
129. Given today's news I do not trust these polls
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:58 AM
Feb 2020

I’ll wait and see what the actual vote results are

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
134. Are you suggesting the Russians are interfering with independent pollsters?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:49 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
27. Honestly, I would happily support a Warren-Sanders ticket.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:03 AM
Feb 2020

Or a Sanders-Warren ticket.

The others leave me quite flat.

They have not the sense of crisis that I see in Warren and Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
32. Nope.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:08 AM
Feb 2020

No double ticket. Fact is neither would accept one.

I would prefer Warren and Castro. That would be a winner. As for Bernies choice considering his Stein management team...I

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

krissey

(1,205 posts)
33. I am with you sheshe and I agree. I too had the issue with M4A and was glad to see her shift on
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:19 AM
Feb 2020

that. I am glad to see her going for the super pac to stay in the race. She said she would try, asked others to join. They didn't and she needs the money to fight hard and fast. Awesome woman to be fluid enough to move in another direction.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
38. Fluid is good.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:30 AM
Feb 2020

Not flip flopping and not a rigid my way or the highway.

She flows like mother nature and the ebbs and flows with the tides to change what needs to be changed.

Hey krissey, thanks. Glad you are here. We are not an easy bunch, it takes time.

You are doing great.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jg10003

(976 posts)
34. Warren and Bernie are both great, but I think Bernie has a better chance of beating trump.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:20 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
46. Nope.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:37 AM
Feb 2020

Not even close.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
63. Most polls seem to support that position, unfortunately
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:34 AM
Feb 2020

I like them both and in many ways would prefer Warren over Sanders, but most head to head matchups with Trump show her doing worse than most of the other candidates, including Bernie. IDK why and it's disappointing, because she's one of the best qualified candidates we have.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
69. Yes, well...polls.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:44 AM
Feb 2020

Fact is no one will ever recognize a women. Decade after decade a women always comes last. Our rights. Our bodies. Our vote. Our accomplishments, we always come in last.

Always.

No words left.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
42. Damn! I missed it
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:34 AM
Feb 2020

When did the other 4 drop out?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
50. Never said it was just two.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:42 AM
Feb 2020

Just comparing two with similar policies and what the choice would be.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
44. Warren.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:34 AM
Feb 2020

Easy call.

The Democrat.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
47. Warren
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:38 AM
Feb 2020

Here is my estimate of the chances of Sanders and Warren in the GE

Sanders: about 50-1 against beating trump.
Warren: about 3-1 against beating trump.

I got to go with the odds: Warren

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

renate

(13,776 posts)
51. Warren!
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:43 AM
Feb 2020

She has the energy (OMG so much energy) and the lack of (I'm sorry) grumpiness to be much more appealing.

I've said it a thousand times here--although she's my favorite, I would be THRILLED to have a President Bernie Sanders.

But that is not going to happen in real life.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
52. Liz over Bernie for one simple reason: she has a plan.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:45 AM
Feb 2020

Bernie has great ideas. Elizabeth has great plans. Liz has also all the right progressive policies without the "Democratic Socialist" baggage that Bernie has. If he branded himself as a social Democrat that he really is then that's different... but nope he still sticks to that label. And IMO that will turn the older population off... those who have succumbed to the Trump GOP brainwashing and those who grew up in the Cold War era having had it summed into them that communism is bad and socialism is the same thing as communism.

Elizabeth Warren is IMO a Social Democrat who practices Social Democracy. The Consumer Financial Protection Agency is a small example of what Social Democracy is all about, and it's her "baby". Shame about the abusive stepfather in charge right now mind...

In the end America needs a universal, single payer, government organized health care system because the private sector has shown it's incapable of doing the job and many other countries around the world have come to the same conclusion - some earlier than others of course.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

freepotter

(351 posts)
74. I agree, mwooldri
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:59 AM
Feb 2020

Warren and Sanders have very similar ideas, but Warren has not declared herself a Socialist (gasp). In fact, she has always called herself a Capitalist, and she is, but of the kind of Capitalism that is well regulated and that widely benefits all economic classes.

I think the Repubs will beat us by hammering Bernie with the "Socialist" label if he's our pick, although I don't think it will have much to do with voter age. There are lots of us old hippies still around; many of whom lived in communes, and loved the social programs of the 40's, 50's, and 60's. Unfortunately, I know of a bunch of 40-50's people who are totally freaked out about Socialism.

Warren! Warren! Warren!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
55. Definitely Warren. n/t
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:50 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
56. I'm slowly leaning toward Warren, but I'll also back ANY candidate the majority chooses.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:51 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
58. I will vote for any Democrat.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 01:57 AM
Feb 2020

However Super Tuesday will be Warren.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Horizens

(637 posts)
60. Warren
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:21 AM
Feb 2020

and Warren again

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
61. I already voted by mail
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:28 AM
Feb 2020

Was happy to mark Elizabeth Warren

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
65. Yes!
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:37 AM
Feb 2020

Good to see you, Starry.

I can vote early, yet may just wait til the 3rd.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

caraher

(6,278 posts)
67. Just got my ballot
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:40 AM
Feb 2020

Sending it in tomorrow for Warren.

My wife had an interesting observation, which was that Warren supporters as a group love their candidate but have little inclination toward "Liz or Bust!" attitudes. So if there is a brokered convention, she would like to see Warren delegates as a major force because they're likely to be the sort who will come up with solutions that put us in a good position for November, and not the kind who would create unity problems coming out of the convention because their favored candidate didn't get the nod.

We certainly see that a lot here - Warren supporters saying they also like Bernie or Amy. I definitely have a pecking order among my second choices, but know whatever the outcome for the primaries I'm all in for the Democratic candidate. At the same time, Warren is my dream candidate. I wished she'd run in 2016. She's done and said a few things I wish she hadn't, but nobody's perfect. Warren does her homework, is brilliant, energetic, passionate, has the right values, doesn't back down from a fight... and also knows how to get things done, and scares and angers all the right people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
68. WARREN Over Bernie Easily...
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:44 AM
Feb 2020

Nt

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
71. Thank you Tom!!!!!!
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:49 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aeromanKC

(3,325 posts)
70. Neither. I want to beat Trump!!
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:48 AM
Feb 2020

Biden for the win!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
78. Chocolate or cyanide?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:11 AM
Feb 2020

I think Warren/Buttigieg is looking good
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mtron32

(35 posts)
79. Had the Warren from last night been at the last 5 debates...
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:12 AM
Feb 2020

She would definitely be the front runner, if she manages to catch Bernie then she's proven she can still fight and I will gladly go back to being a WarrenBro. My worry is that she'll hire establishment campaign staff that will ruin her like they did this fall. She definitely needs somebody because her political instincts (blood test) aren't always the best.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Buzz cook

(2,472 posts)
80. Warren in a walk.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:15 AM
Feb 2020

She has big time administrative experience in setting up the consumer protection administration. She is a top rate policy wonk. Warren can take a complex topic and explain it in simple term.
And Elizabeth Warren doesn't sout all the time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
85. Warren. She is the registered Democrat
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:46 AM
Feb 2020

Shouldn’t Democrats nominate a Democrat? Remember. Obama vs Clinton was a tough primary yet once Clinton realized she lost, she became a team player, swallowed her pride for the good of the party and was instrumental in electing the first AA President. Obama in return made her Sec of State. Compare that to how Bernie behaved when it was clear he lost and did his ego trip sour grapes routine and the disgraceful display at the DNC convention by the Susan Sarandon/Bernie wing of the Democratic Party. Anyone but Sanders

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,173 posts)
89. I got off the Sanders/Warren fence and chose Warren after the NV debate
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:53 AM
Feb 2020


I just needed to see her fight as hard as Bernie is fighting to get behind her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Squinch

(50,956 posts)
90. Definitely Warren.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:28 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
91. I would be happy with either; from March 2019 until early January I had Warren as my preference
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:31 AM
Feb 2020

This presidential cycle, more than any other that I've participated in, I am choosing to let general public voter preferences strongly influence my choice. Not exclusively literal poll numbers, but also the degree of enthusiasm each candidate is capable of producing and the demographics of where they tend to draw support. Warren and Sanders have differing strengths and weaknesses even if their policies, though not identical, are similar.

Last March I wrote this in an OP here:

"We don't know if 2020 voters will want a moderate consensus building candidate or a system changer
THAT is one of the main reasons why I am not firmly in any candidate's camp yet. Sure I know we have to win, that beating Trump is virtually everything. THAT is one of the main reasons why I am not firmly in any candidate's camp yet.

It is old accepted political wisdom that the path to the Presidency runs through the center in the General Election by attempting to win over the small sliver of genuinely undecided swing voters in the middle of the ideological spectrum. That accepted wisdom was definitely cracked if not shattered in 2016. What we went through in 2016 may cause the center to reassert itself as a counter reaction for 2020, or it may have been an indicator that we are seeing increasing turbulence in the electorate that has not yet seen its peak. Tried and true was not the winning formula in 2016. It is far to early to be seen what will be in 2020."

During the months that Warren was my preference here I also defended Sanders from those were were temp[ted to dismiss him as an also ran left behind in the dust bin of history. I knew that he was being seriously underestimated, and I was correct. I also recognized the strong case that could be made for Vice President Biden, if his campaign showed an ability to consistently elicit enough voter enthusiasm.

A lot is on the line for Warren now. No matter how fine a President she would make, or how powerful a campaigner she can be, the latter has to be reflected in a strong rise in her finish in soon to be contested races. She needs to ride a real sense of surge into Super Tuesday to remain competitive. If she does, based on that type of evidence, I would reconsider my candidate preference here. At this fixed moment in time, my reasons for shifting to Sanders in early January have been validated by the dynamics of the race up until this point. But there is still (a little) time for that to change again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(14,009 posts)
93. Warren all the way.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:24 PM
Feb 2020

She can be the unity candidate for moderates and progressives.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,356 posts)
94. Warren will work FOR us and WITH others (meaning, our Congress).
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 12:30 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
100. +1000
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:32 PM
Feb 2020

Correct, Hermit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
97. Warren
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 08:06 PM
Feb 2020

Mainly because she is younger and maybe it’s finally time we let a woman give it a go.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
101. The one that isn't a
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:39 PM
Feb 2020

socialist

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

33taw

(2,444 posts)
102. Warren. I don't like that Bernie hired Tad Davine in 2016
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:41 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,278 posts)
104. I'm with HER.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:42 PM
Feb 2020

Not him. HER.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
106. Her town hall last night.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:50 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
109. Yep.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:04 PM
Feb 2020

I am voting super Tuesday!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Meadowoak

(5,551 posts)
105. Sanders in the primary, the Democratic nominee in the general.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:47 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tweedy

(628 posts)
111. Senator Warren
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:26 PM
Feb 2020

She will accomplish everything she can every step of the way.

Senator Warren has already shown what she can do to a self-made billionaire.

Imagine how the unindicted co-conspirator, serial bankrupt will wither before her.

Maybe this president will resign rather than face her? A person can hope. Sarah Palin quit. It isn't without precedent for GOP folks in way over their heads (& this president is clearly drowning).

Elizabeth Warren is the right candidate for this moment. She has spent her life in training for right now.

No-one else comes close, even though they all deserve respect ✊, even Bloomberg.

The former mayor's subscription may help rig the system against the rest of us; yet, it is sadly legal to do so. He did see the loophole & exploit it, which shows skill, & insight.
.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marlakay

(11,479 posts)
117. Warren
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:03 AM
Feb 2020

And looking forward to it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(83,795 posts)
127. Thanks, Mme.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:54 AM
Feb 2020


Joe is my second choice.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mvd

(65,175 posts)
130. I really like both
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 12:59 AM
Feb 2020

Warren just may be the most intelligent of our candidates. She is strong and has great chance against Trump IMO. Her proposal to get to Medicare For All might work. And it would be nice to have a woman President.

But I decided not to abandon Sanders. His beliefs are still most similar to mine and I feel his passion. I feel he can beat Trump by turning his working class lies around on him. I wouldn’t be for him if I did not feel he could win.

Liking both is fine!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
131. You don't even need to ask.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:05 AM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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