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andym

(5,427 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:47 PM Feb 2020

President and VP acting as effective Co-Presidents?

In 1980, Ronald Reagan considered former President Ford as a potential effective co-President-- at one point the GOP convention entertained the idea of a VP who would be more like a President (Reagan/Ford).
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/25085/reagan-and-ford-considered-co-presidency-1980
[I edited this post correcting the history]

The idea originally comes from the corporate world. For example, https://www.fastcompany.com/3068272/are-co-ceos-a-great-ideaA-or-a-total-disaster

If the Democratic convention does not have a first ballot nominee this year, should the possibility of having the Democratic nominee and VP act as co-Presidents if elected to win the election and placate various wings/party interests? Of course such a scenario would have to be carefully planned as to which duties belonged to whom, and one person would still technically be the President.

Understand that technically one person would be President and the other the Vice-President, it would just be that the Vice-Presdient's role would be expanded and the President's role decreased by mutual agreement. At any time the actual President could end such a deal technically.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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President and VP acting as effective Co-Presidents? (Original Post) andym Feb 2020 OP
Huh? Whut? rzemanfl Feb 2020 #1
No. Poeraria Feb 2020 #2
Terrible idea. nsd Feb 2020 #3
I'm sitting in NJ JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #4
Interesting idea relayerbob Feb 2020 #5
Would this even be constitutional? Moderateguy Feb 2020 #6
Yes because one person would actually be President andym Feb 2020 #11
That's not Co-Presidents Moderateguy Feb 2020 #12
Well, Cheney was the real president nobuddy Feb 2020 #13
That's not how it works... NurseJackie Feb 2020 #7
That was a ruse by Reagan Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #8
Horrible idea. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #9
I think your confusing our Republic with that of Ancient Rome. malchickiwick Feb 2020 #10
Actually it's a solution used in the corporate world andym Feb 2020 #14
there's no such thing really, so it's mainly just a rhetoric to appeal to the veep's supporters unblock Feb 2020 #15
 

Poeraria

(219 posts)
2. No.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:51 PM
Feb 2020

Unconstitutional then, and now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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nsd

(2,406 posts)
3. Terrible idea.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:52 PM
Feb 2020

It was terrible in 1976 and it's still terrible.

Any president who needs a co-equal vice-president isn't fit for the job.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JustAnotherGen

(31,548 posts)
4. I'm sitting in NJ
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:52 PM
Feb 2020

I'm heading west on I-78 . . . but my cart is all the way out in Ohio.

I.E. Way to early to even put an idea like this out there.

Can you let us vote in NJ first? Do we not get a say? Are we not reliably blue for national elections?

That's June 2nd. We should have our interests considered too. We pay the most into fed gov and get the least back per each tax dollar.

We deserve to have our say without schemes and backroom deals.

ETA - That's 107 delegates assigned based on the Primary Winner.
Another 14 to party leaders and allocated officials.
Another 23 at large delegates

If this race is as close as everyone thinks - then those could really count for something in the race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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relayerbob

(6,489 posts)
5. Interesting idea
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:53 PM
Feb 2020

More like a corporate structure. Would have to be handled carefully, but if a coalition leadership, of any size, could be created, I'd be for it.

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Moderateguy

(945 posts)
6. Would this even be constitutional?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:54 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

andym

(5,427 posts)
11. Yes because one person would actually be President
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:06 PM
Feb 2020

and the other VP. The actual President could terminate the deal and he/she would be President.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
12. That's not Co-Presidents
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:06 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

nobuddy

(215 posts)
13. Well, Cheney was the real president
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:08 PM
Feb 2020

Bush was just the spokesman.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. That's not how it works...
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:54 PM
Feb 2020

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Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
8. That was a ruse by Reagan
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:55 PM
Feb 2020

Ford was only floated to get the hard liners in the party to agree to a moderate as VP. Once they did he flipped in Bush.

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TwilightZone

(24,892 posts)
9. Horrible idea.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 02:56 PM
Feb 2020

If you want to give everyone the impression that the Democratic nominee isn't up for the job, this would be a great way to do that.

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malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
10. I think your confusing our Republic with that of Ancient Rome.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:01 PM
Feb 2020

They had co-consuls, but only served 1-year terms.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

andym

(5,427 posts)
14. Actually it's a solution used in the corporate world
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:08 PM
Feb 2020

which is where it probably came from in the first place.
https://www.fastcompany.com/3068272/are-co-ceos-a-great-ideaA-or-a-total-disaster

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

unblock

(51,829 posts)
15. there's no such thing really, so it's mainly just a rhetoric to appeal to the veep's supporters
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 03:19 PM
Feb 2020

that said, al gore was given quite a lot of responsibility for a vice-president, and cheney of course was able to steamroll over shrub, particularly during his first term.

but in the end, the office of the vice-president isn't worth a bucket of warm piss, as a former occupant of that office once said....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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