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bitterross

(4,066 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:37 PM Feb 2020

Bernie is not a Democrat. He will be a Disaster if Nominated. Think of KY.

I live in a state that is reliably blue. Our electors are pretty much assured to be blue and vote for any candidate who is not Trump.

That is not the case in many places. In many "purple" states it is not the case. In KY, where we really, really need to unseat McConnell it is not true.

I will say it over and over again. Bernie is NOT a Democrat and he is a loser for Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Bernie is not a Democrat. He will be a Disaster if Nominated. Think of KY. (Original Post) bitterross Feb 2020 OP
It wouldn't surprise me if Bernie's support in Kentucky Frasier Balzov Feb 2020 #1
Please don't bring up Michael Moore around here...I mean really UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #4
Did he take the threat of Trump seriously? Frasier Balzov Feb 2020 #7
Moore warned everyone about what was going on in the Rust belt Sympthsical Feb 2020 #10
He was right. ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #11
Roger and Me, Bowling For Columbine, Sicko ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #12
He sure does now! nt UniteFightBack Feb 2020 #14
K&R, Sanders should've denounced Russia's help long ago. uponit7771 Feb 2020 #2
This hourly reminder that Sanders can't win is brought to you by TV Land nobuddy Feb 2020 #3
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #5
Come again? nobuddy Feb 2020 #6
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #8
Why is "Bernie's not a Democrat!" a thing? Sympthsical Feb 2020 #9
The inside baseball thing as you put it ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #13
You Sympthsical Feb 2020 #17
You are so right CrawlingChaos Feb 2020 #18
Does that include you? Or are you "not in the real world" along with those of us on DU? ehrnst Feb 2020 #20
Sanders: I don't consider myself a Democrat ehrnst Feb 2020 #19
I super don't care. Sympthsical Feb 2020 #21
"Why is "Bernie's not a Democrat!" a thing?" ehrnst Feb 2020 #22
You are not going to convince the people that are convinced Blue_true Feb 2020 #15
KR Cha Feb 2020 #16
 

Frasier Balzov

(2,598 posts)
1. It wouldn't surprise me if Bernie's support in Kentucky
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:43 PM
Feb 2020

is substantial.

Also, don't you think that Michael Moore agrees with the absolute priority of beating Trump?

Michael Moore supports Bernie Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
4. Please don't bring up Michael Moore around here...I mean really
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:47 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Frasier Balzov

(2,598 posts)
7. Did he take the threat of Trump seriously?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:56 PM
Feb 2020

Did he support Hillary in the general?

Credit where it's due.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sympthsical

(8,935 posts)
10. Moore warned everyone about what was going on in the Rust belt
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:27 PM
Feb 2020

No one listened.

And yet somehow he’s the asshole.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
11. He was right.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:32 PM
Feb 2020

He is right!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
12. Roger and Me, Bowling For Columbine, Sicko
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:35 PM
Feb 2020

That Michael Moore just sucks!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

uponit7771

(90,225 posts)
2. K&R, Sanders should've denounced Russia's help long ago.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:44 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

nobuddy

(215 posts)
3. This hourly reminder that Sanders can't win is brought to you by TV Land
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:45 PM
Feb 2020

TV Land, airing the shows you remember like, The Andy Griffith Show, and, Green Acres

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to nobuddy (Reply #3)

Response to bitterross (Original post)

 

Sympthsical

(8,935 posts)
9. Why is "Bernie's not a Democrat!" a thing?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:19 PM
Feb 2020

I am a Democrat. I’ve voted Democratic my entire adult life. My first vote was against Dubya, and it was a passionate one.

I could not possibly care less that Bernie does his independent shtick. He caucuses with our party, votes for our policies, supports our candidates, and runs on our ticket so he won’t split any votes.

This whole “Not a Democrat!” business is a very inside baseball thing only countenanced by hyper-partisans. The kind of people who post about politics all day on social media basically.

Rank and file voters do not actually care about this. They care about what they will do if they get sick. They care about paying for their children’s education. They care about wringing out that last ten dollars until the next paycheck. They care about the climate and why the weather’s getting fucked up.

No one, and I do mean almost no one, cares about this. I’m not sure who it’s meant to appeal to. Not only that, but this refrain has been going on for years. Does anyone not know? Why repeat it over and over and over again? Who are you trying to reach there?

Not a Democrat!

No one cares. He’s winning, if you hadn’t noticed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
13. The inside baseball thing as you put it
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 10:44 PM
Feb 2020

Is why the LA Dodgers have sucked in the home stretch, come on people get your shit together. Real people play ball.

"The Los Angeles Dodgers have been eliminated from the postseason for the last seven years running. They haven't won the World Series since 1988. Let that sink in. In all seven seasons they won the National League West, this season with a franchise record 106 victories"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CrawlingChaos

(1,893 posts)
18. You are so right
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:36 AM
Feb 2020

Out in the real world many people see it as a positive, in fact.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
20. Does that include you? Or are you "not in the real world" along with those of us on DU?
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 03:18 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Sat Feb 22, 2020, 08:08 PM - Edit history (1)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. Sanders: I don't consider myself a Democrat
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 03:18 PM
Feb 2020
"No, I'm an Independent," Sanders said when asked by MSNBC's Chris Hayes whether he now identifies as a Democrat.


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/329418-sanders-i-do-not-consider-myself-a-democrat
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Sympthsical

(8,935 posts)
21. I super don't care.
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:46 PM
Feb 2020

No one does. That’s the point.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
22. "Why is "Bernie's not a Democrat!" a thing?"
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 11:59 PM
Feb 2020

So why did you super ask?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. You are not going to convince the people that are convinced
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 11:39 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Sat Feb 22, 2020, 05:00 PM - Edit history (1)

that Bernie is the second coming, even when his 30+ year record don't remotely point to that. They are convinced, like the young people coming out for McGovern and the Hippies who didn't get that most of America looked askance on what they saw as a leadpipe cinch. They are convinced, like the progressives who refused to fully back Carter in 80. They are convinced, like those that claimed a left Mondale was too conservative in 84. They are convinced, like those that chose Dukakis over candidates that had a chance to beat Bush I. They are convinced as they explain to me WHY 72, 80, 84, 88 would have been different only if x happened. They are convinced even as I saw the debacles happen with my eyes in real time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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