Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSo, Bernie thinks he doesn't need the help of the "Democratic Establishment"
CalFione posted this, at the link below:https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=556757
Bernie tweeted this from above link:
"I've got news for the Republican establishment. I've got news for the Democratic establishment. They can't stop us."
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As far as I am concerned, that eliminates Bernie completely. Why? To reject the powers of the Democratic Party to get out the vote, and help with the election is beyond stupid"!!!!
It proves that Bernie is on an "ego" trip. He is quoted that he doesn't need anyone in the "establishments" help. If that is for real, then he has clearly lost track of what is happening. Bernie will need all the help he can get to defeat Trump.
Bernie hasn't got a clue. Trump wants Bernie, because he is easiest to defeat. Why? Bernie and his ego are lost in a sea of "self delusion."
...That is what we who worked and believed in the savior, "McGovern" thought.
McGovern would get us out of the war, and that would sway everyone to our side. Didn't work, did it?
Further proof Iamaartist posted this here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287558351
Trump Defends Bernie Sanders On Russian Election Interference
Why would Trump Defend Bernie if that was not in Trump's own interest?..That is Bernie is the easiest to beat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zoonart
(11,860 posts)of Bernie's freeloading on the Democratic Party infrastructure for the greater glory of Bernie Sanders and... of yeah...F the Democrats.
The Berners are destroying the party from within... with the help of Russia.
Sound Familiar?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)I like and support Bernie Sanders. I'll be voting for Warren or him. Does my membership not count?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Stuart G
(38,421 posts)But I honestly believe that Bernie will not win, and will destroy our party from within. (as he is doing)
And I have been a member of the party for 52 years (I worked for Hubert Humphrey in 68) Does that count?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
And I never accused you of working with Russia to destroy the Democratic party from within.
The poster I replied to accused me of working with Russia to destroy the Democratic party from within.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Stuart G
(38,421 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
moriah
(8,311 posts)Sometimes it seems like Bernie is only a "Democrat" when it is to his benefit.
Then again, I do not want to see something like 1992 but in reverse -- Perot's candidacy divided the fiscally conservative, and we don't yet have instant run-off or ranked choice voting. An Independent run from the left would divide the left, so I can't say running in our primary is *solely* to his benefit.
Still, it rankles me. Not most of what he says about policy. Aside from his votes on gun legislation, which I admit were partly because he represented a state with many legal gun owners and nearly half the gun death rate (inclusive of suicides) per capita of my red state, I agree with his ideas.
But the fact that for him, he's used his "Independent" side for so long it's hard not to show it, even when that means allowing a Tweet to go out under his name that implied that both parties are the same. The last message we need out right now as a country.
It *does* feel like, if not that he only uses the Party when it's convenient merely for him (cuz as I said, there are reasons it's good for the Party), that he has a lot of disdain for the party he's running under and doesn't *want* to be one of us, even if we became what he envisioned as perfect. And that's hard to swallow.
I do believe his criticisms would sound different if he was willing to step inside the tent, and stay there, and call himself one of us when making his attempts at constructive criticism.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)Do you agree with the person I was replying to that I'm working with Russia to destroy the party from within?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
moriah
(8,311 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)I don't have a problem with that. But I understand why other people do.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Stuart G
(38,421 posts)what is best for the U.S.A. (that is what is being thought)..But that is wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)to our Democratic Party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Stuart G
(38,421 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)away.. the context?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jmg257
(11,996 posts)etc. etc. etc.
google "democratic establishment support sanders"
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk00hUCKzgP7E23oh66pmEcpNwOb25Q%3A1582386744860&source=hp&ei=OE5RXvexMdDs_Qarwa6YCg&q=democratic+establishment+support+sanders&oq=democratic+establishment+support+sanders
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
krissey
(1,205 posts)Less and less respect.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided