Getting tired of Chris Hayes. His All In account just tweeted a nasty hit piece on Biden

[highplainsdem]

Last edited Fri Apr 5, 2019, 10:05 PM - Edit history (3)

and Chris's bias against Biden seemed pretty obvious in tonight's show.

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Editing to add that the tweet above, for which Chris is rightly being criticized, was the second tweet from the All In account this evening that went after Biden. This was the first:

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The All In account later tweeted a link to the debate on the show tonight, in which Barbara Boxer defended Biden.

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But I don't think a video clip offering both sides of a debate offsets linking to two articles critical of Biden.

I went back through several days of All In tweets, and there was NOTHING from Biden's defenders.


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Editing again to add that someone is apparently blocking responses to the tweet I linked to at the start of this OP.

The stats showing up for it -- 25 replies, 8 retweets, 19 likes -- haven't changed in quite a while, though they're changing, increasing, where listed under other tweets from All In.

Correction -- the number of retweets listed just went up to 9 from 8.

But the number of replies isn't increasing, and that seems impossible, given the backlash they were getting.

[onecaliberal]

1. I turned it off. Won't watch him again.

[nolabear]

2. I didn't think it was too bad.

Barbara Boxer did him some good. I don’t get the “He needs to say he’s sorry” thing. As soon as he did people would say “See? He knows what he does is wrong” and every time he did it-and he will-cameras will flash and whomever he’s hugging or placing a comforting hand on will be plagued to say whether or not he asked permission.

[elleng]

3. Yes, happy to hear B. Boxer's take.

[monmouth4]

5. She was great and made some very good points. n.t

[Cha]

10. Good to know.. Mahalo, Monmouth!

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[monmouth4]

12. Hey Cha, always good to see and read you. Hope all is well. n/t

[Cha]

14. Mahalo, Monmouth! I'm good.. hope

you are, too!

[Cha]

8. I just saw this tweet on that, Nola..

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[nolabear]

35. I thought her take was wonderful. I hate the need to fight though.

I don’t mean them disagreeing. That’s great and informative. But the OWNED tweet, while satisfying, just keeps people either sticking to their guns or embarrassed.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

56. I think a sincere apology would go a long way... not so sure about doubling down on NOT being sorry.

But, then again, Joe IS the expert politician.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[lapucelle]

58. They continually demanded apologies from the Democratic nominee last time around.

"Take responsibility and apologize" became a media mantra. And the nominee's apology was never good enough. They were troubled by the fact that she was "flawed" because for some reason, for her and her alone, the standard to be met was "perfection".

Hayes led that charge in 2016. He's more responsible for Trump and his judicial legacy than any individual Trump or Stein voter.

[Maru Kitteh]

4. Getting sick of the media working on vucking over the next Hillry Clinton so they

can have a "close race"

[Autumn]

13. Who is the next Hillary Clinton?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

33. I know right?

[Cha]

16. Oh yeah.. they're such obvious

hyenas.

[oasis]

37. Steve Kornaki and Jonathan Allen were doing a tag team

trashing Biden on MSNBC's 11th Hour.

Geeez these people can't wait until they get a piece of Democratic frontrunners. Even if they haven't yet announced their candidacy.

[Cha]

39. Kornaki's a repub, right? I've

read that here anyway.

And, I've never heard of Jonathan Allen.. not having a tv.

That's what they do.. think Hillary's emails.

[oasis]

40. Allen co-authored "Shattered".Their take on why Hillary lost in 2016.nt

[Cha]

41. Oh Good Gawd. So consider

the source.. junk.

[oasis]

43. Subtitle: Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign. nt

[Cha]

44. Uh uh.. 'cause russians, stein LIES, comey, suppressed

voting, and the fucking M$M.

[oasis]

45. Yes indeed! MSM bigtime culprits! nt

[BlueFlorida]

51. Whilst the real culprit

is out in the open, right under our noses.

[UniteFightBack]

18. What bothers me is that MSNBC is supposed to be for liberals.....SO WHY THE FUCK????? Furthermore,

if Chris Hayes doesn't want/like Biden whatever...then just STFU about him....WTF are you helping the republiscums for?

[Mr Tibbs]

49. So Biden supporters won't be targeting other candidates

in the 2020 primaries? Is already happening.

[BlueFlorida]

52. Thank you, Mr. Pot

Sincerely,

Kettle

[Mr Tibbs]

55. Cool story!

[awesomerwb1]

83. Hahaha Nailed it.

Gotta love their "it;s ok for us to do it to your candidate but when you do it to St. ****** you've crossed the line!!" ?

[UniteFightBack]

62. It would be nice if everybody would participate in the ease up on Dem candidates but yeah I see that

ain't happening.

[Mr Tibbs]

63. I have had both Biden and Harris supporters tell me

They will be doing "extreme vetting" against Bernie Sanders. They can do as they please but we will be taking the high road while they do it.

[brooklynite]

91. Translation: Only Democratic-friendly positive stories?

You may choose to live in a bubble. I don't.

[Peacetrain]

19. +1000

no kidding..

[Cha]

6. From the tweets I saw.. Hayes is getting

Strong Pushback on Twitter..

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[elleng]

7. Good

[George II]

9. He's been promoting Sanders for four years now, logical that he'd go after the front runner.

[Cha]

15. Yeah, I let 'em have it on that in no

uncertain terms.

[highplainsdem]

25. Good for you!

[UniteFightBack]

17. Do you know I was JUST THINKING the moment before I saw this that I DO NOT want to be talking

about bullshit from 1972 when I was one years old? At least not if it pertains to this subject.

Nobody is INTERESTED in shit from almost 50 years ago...seriously. We want to hear about the FUTURE....from everybody, not just Joe.

Unless you've committed serious offenses I'll be defending every Democrat because I"m not getting caught up in the PETTY BULLSHIT. Nope, not gonna do it.

[George II]

20. Plus, as a program host on a major cable network, he should NOT be dissing any candidate.

[Mersky]

21. Biden's speech this morning lifted me out of morning mopes...

I needed to hear that the US, despite all its malcontentedness, can take on the future. I didn't expect it to come from Joe Biden as he spoke before the electrical workers union.

I switched my endorsement from O'Rourke, as I want to give Biden a fair shake to get in the race. I want to hear more from him. I reserve the right to jump back to Warren or O'Rourke... And will view campaign speeches from all the others.

Chris Hayes' coverage of the speech was so narrowed, and yeah, a 'hit piece'. I needed to be reminded of corporate influence over media coverage of candidates, and that I need to experience what each has to offer. If I only relied on msm today, I might not have heard such strong support of union workers, job creation, education, and egalitarian values. He got my attention today.

[Mr Tibbs]

50. I agree Biden would be better than Beto

Biden has always been rock solid

[Mersky]

71. Thanks, but Beto would be better than Sanders

I don't think tyranny from the left is the best response to the right-wing tyranny we now face. I've been a fan of Bernie's for years, but I don't think his policies are realistic without wielding more unitary executive power, as we have over the Bush years and now the daily horror that is Trump.

I am tired of the largess of double standards given to the wealthy and quarterly growth obsessed wall street set, but I see a need for a person who can communicate to 'conservatives' in my state of Texas without compromising progressive values. Biden has that, Warren, and Beto, too...Buttigieg has my attention as well. I like Bernie in the Senate. Honestly, I think Beto would be a great vice president. I'm glad they're all in the race, getting out progressive messages. We'll see how the debates go...

[Eliot Rosewater]

76. Almost anyone would be

[Mr Tibbs]

86. A lot of folks will between a rock and a hard place

When Bernie Sanders is the Democratic nominee

[Eliot Rosewater]

87. He wont be, willing to bet on it too

[BlueFlorida]

22. Chris should be fired for this comment from MSNBC

He loses his standing as a journalist when he ceases to remain objective in reporting the news.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

34. Can we organize a protest?

[TSIAS]

47. Contact Jimmy Dore

Maybe you and him could join forces to get Hayes fired. I know Dore is a class act and would be willing to help.

[Eliot Rosewater]

77. DORE is a class act?

[Cha]

48. As a host on a major cable network, you should NOT be blatantly criticizing

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Hayes didn't fool many on twitter nor us.

[Mr Tibbs]

73. MSNBC isn't "news"

They are opinion

[BlueFlorida]

75. No they are not

They adhere to journalistic standards. Even when reporting they put a disclaimer "NBC News has not confirmed this"

[Mr Tibbs]

85. When is their news broadcast?

All I see on there is punditry and opinion

[BlueFlorida]

89. They have news and then punditry on that news.

Please watch it and it may shed some light.

[WheelWalker]

23. Like Trump, he's appealing to his base.

[highplainsdem]

24. I've edited the OP to note that replies to that tweet from All In seem to be getting blocked.

There was a swift backlash to that tweet, but suddenly the replies stopped or were blocked.

[Cha]

26. Here's a tweet I just saw in reply to Hayes..

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[highplainsdem]

30. That's a great reply. So is the one below, tweeted minutes ago. But those two are the only

new replies showing up in that thread in the last hour, and I don't for one second believe they're the only replies actually posted. Someone's blocking replies.

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[Cha]

32. I saw that.. I was going to post it!

Thanks! I don't know what's happening there.

[NoMoreRepugs]

27. Hayes seems to be stepping out onto a thin branch.

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. If people dont fucking smarten up we will get a NON Democrat in the WH again and all is lost then

[redstateblues]

29. He's hoping to be the darling of the "don't make eye contact with me" movement

[highplainsdem]

31. Exactly.

[peggysue2]

36. The Don't Make Eye Contact Movement

LOL!!

I know we’re not suppose to laugh at this nonsense. But I just did. Good thing I’m not on Twitter; no doubt I’d be subjected to a stoning.

Gotta laugh or I might scream.

Anyway, good one!

[True Blue American]

38. I quit watching Hayes long ago.

Matter of fact I have tuned out most of The perpetually hysterical Hosts.

[Trenzalore]

42. I am honestly surprised he still has a time slot

I virtually never watch him. Probably should give his slot to Joy.

[BlueFlorida]

53. They should actually give it to Katie Tur

Katie has been terrific all year

[lapucelle]

59. I know a lot of people like Katy Tur, but I change the channel when I see her.

I don't like what she did to her parent Zoey Tur. I know it's probably very complicated, but it really changed my opinion of her.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/zoey-tur-slams-daughter-katy-tur-for-being-transphobic-in-blistering-facebook-post/

[Cha]

46. Hayes is stupidly being Divisive.. if

that's the way he wants to promote his show.. that's his problem.

[Mr Tibbs]

64. Is "extreme vetting" divisive?

[Cha]

66. The Tweets are Overwhelmingly Against Hayes..

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[Mr Tibbs]

68. Not what I asked

[Cha]

69. Hayes is too biased to do any actual Vetting

unless he Extreme Vets BS.

[Demsrule86]

95. Good I tweeted and took his show off my DVR...working on my flooded house yeserday...gone all day.

[Cha]

96. Good on the Tweet and his show

off your DVR!

Sorry, your house got flooded.. how did that happen?!

[Cha]

92. Hayes is doing BS and himself no favors.

[riversedge]

54. I think it was part of the vetting process. Biden has to go through like other Dem

candidates.

[watoos]

57. Michelle Goldberg was the person

upset with Biden. Barbara Boxer did a good job backing Biden.

I could care less about Biden's hugs, I don't feel they are sexual. I voted for him in a primary because he was a staunch union supporter but today he seems too far to the right for me. I'm still deciding, I haven't ruled him out.

In all honesty Andrew Yang would probably straighten out our country more than any of our candidates. The country isn't ready for Yang yet I'm afraid.

[lark]

60. Rachel, Nicole & Joy are the only 3 MSNBC hosts I routinely watch, with side trips for Lawrence,

if I'm awake that late. Chris Hayes is now dead to me.

[Autumn]

61. I don't watch TH's so I don't know his history. Which is the "hit piece" that made you suddenly

decide he was too biased? The tweet that says

“I appreciate his attempt to do better in the future, but to me this is not mainly about whether Joe Biden has adequate respect for personal space. It’s about women deserving equal respect in the workplace."

Or is the the article you highlighted titled "Joe Biden Isn’t the Answer"? I don't see anything wrong about either. The tweet reads as a well thought out opinion on the current situation. I read the article and it is actually pretty damn good. That is Joe Biden. That's his history and those aren't lies. Joe has always been in the sweet spot of the middle.
Maybe I have a different view of a "hit piece".

https://www.thecut.com/2019/03/joe-biden-isnt-the-answer-for-president-in-2020.html

It was a period of intense partisan realignment, in response to the upheavals of the 1960s and early ’70s, in which the American left was nervously coalescing around the interests and increased liberties of racial minorities and women, the populations who were forming what would be the most reliable part of its base.

The right, meanwhile, was sucking strength from a backlash against disruptive social movements, growing fat and drunk on the language of piety and family values that would undergird its ultraconservative defense of the old power structures, self-righteously fueling up for the Reagan era. Republicans had, for the foreseeable future, won white men — America’s original citizens, the ones around whom our narratives and priorities are calibrated.

Rather than lean into an energetic defense of the values of liberty, equality, and inclusion that might define their role against the racist and anti-feminist backlash of the era, the Democratic Party appeared anxious to distance itself from being the feminized “mommy party,” and shunt to the side — rather than vigorously advocate for — the priorities of women, especially poor women, and people of color.

The party continued to be represented and led by mostly white men. And while officially Democrats remained on the progressive side, supporting reproductive rights, civil rights, and affirmative action, a contingent of Those Guys, Joe Biden notable among them, made folksy rationalizations for abrogating, rather than expanding and more fiercely protecting, new rights and protections. Those Guys soothed; Those Guys were familiar; Those Guys enjoyed their own power and wanted to reassure everyone that it wasn’t really going to be so dramatically reapportioned.

[Gothmog]

65. I tend to watch The Beat with Ari when Chris is on

I always DVR The Beat with Ari and watch this show while Hayes is on

[Cha]

67. Hayes has stepped into with this.. imo.

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The tweets are overwhelmingly against him.

[Cha]

70. Hayes praising "the Intercept" article and getting scalded..

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[dalton99a]

94. +1. What a servile stooge

[Kahuna7]

72. You should see what he posted last night...

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You'll see on that thread how I took after him. I wasn't playing either. His tweet was petty and small.

[Demit]

78. What is meant by "a little pain"? That really needs more defining.

[Kahuna7]

80. Some pain...slight pain... not the kind of blinding pain Joe suffered

from having two aneurysms that required two brain operations. Joe knows pain.

[Demit]

81. I'm sure Joe knows his own pain. How does he know others', would be my point.

Nobody can characterize another person's pain. I would not dare to minimize your pain, for example, by comparing it to mine. "Oh, your pain is only slight, not like the pain that I'M feeling!" The idea is ridiculous on the face of it.

[Kahuna7]

84. How do you miscontrue..

the words he said as characterizing anybody's pain??? That's an immature interpretation of what he said and what he intended and you know it.

[Demit]

88. I asked what he could mean by "a little pain" and you answered "some" pain, or "slight" pain,

and took it on yourself to compare that kind of pain to his "blinding" pain. You said Joe knows pain. That sounds to me like you are very confident in Joe's ability to assess all pain, even other people's pain. I'm not misconstruing his words. I said they needed more defining and you provided some. Why the hostility and insults?

Also, you seem to know what he intended. How?

[Kahuna7]

90. Go play with someone else. I don't have time for your nonsense. nt

[Gothmog]

74. I rarely watch Hayes

I DVR The Beat with Ari and watch this while waiting for Rachel

[watoos]

79. It was all fun and games bashing Bernie and Tulsi,

I tried warning everyone that none of our candidates are perfect. Everyone who bashed Bernie and Tulsi did just what Republicans want us to do, fight among ourselves. There is going to be more bashing of our candidates, too bad some of it is being done by Democrats.

[Mike Nelson]

82. If Biden wins...

… all their ratings go down. Chris, Rachel, even FOX … everyone from Morning Joe until sign off... Biden is too normal, competent, responsible, and polite. People would watch more ball games, nostalgia TV, streaming binge shows, and soap operas. The all-news stations need drama.

[Demsrule86]

93. I turned off his show last night. His electability crap pissed me off...you do need to vote for an

electable nominee...as a rich white guy, he will be just find if Trump is reelected. The rest of us not so much. I got home late an had it DVR'd...took it off the DVR...disgusting.

[Cha]

97. Here's Kahuna's account of the Hayes' show last night..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=105707