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EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:49 PM Feb 2020

Are we really just going to ignore data on the voters we need and just "go with our hearts"

So selfish, childish, self-indulgent, immature, naive, and dumb.

If you're not running to WIN, then why bother.

This is a base PLUS election. Whoever gets those PLUS voters, wins. You better believe trump is targeting EACH of those PLUS voters with 1000 targeted --- tailored ---- FB ads each. And he started 2 years ago. 2 years ago.

If we're not going after those PLUS voters, just to the right of the center, who voted for Obama then trump, then WE WILL LOSE. And they DON'T want Medicare for ALL. And they DON'T praise Fidel Castro.

The election is already OVER in 35 states. Don't pander to CA. It's over there. Don't pander to NY or OR. Election is over there. Over!

This election is in the swing counties of WI, MI, PA, AZ.


You don't go after the PLUS voters by telling them your pie in the sky dreams of a progressive utopia. You make it about THEIR dreams. This is the basics of sales 101.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Are we really just going to ignore data on the voters we need and just "go with our hearts" (Original Post) EveHammond13 Feb 2020 OP
Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #1
Back again? Mahalo and Aloha. George II Feb 2020 #4
IBTL jberryhill Feb 2020 #5
bwahahahahaha!!!! George II Feb 2020 #6
who loves "let's be the next cuba" as a campaign mantra lol nt msongs Feb 2020 #2
So their dreams do not include good wages, affordable health care, child care & education? LonePirate Feb 2020 #3
Bernie is letting trump define him to voters because he refuses to be strategic EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #7
There is no evidence whatsoever to prove that is happening. LonePirate Feb 2020 #8
Most Americans see Trump as a loser whose never made either strategy or policy. ancianita Feb 2020 #9
too many Americans see trump as a successful businessman EveHammond13 Feb 2020 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #16
Latest polling has Sanders beating Trump in WI, MI and PA Spider Jerusalem Feb 2020 #10
Data? Fontaines D.C. Feb 2020 #12
Picketty? TexasTowelie Feb 2020 #15
I am! Well, heart AND head! Figure it's a win-win. jmg257 Feb 2020 #13
That's what I'm going to do. I'm choosing who I want to lead the country... TCJ70 Feb 2020 #14

Response to EveHammond13 (Original post)

 

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. Back again? Mahalo and Aloha.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:56 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. IBTL
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:57 PM
Feb 2020


I'm so happy. I always miss these things.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

msongs

(67,405 posts)
2. who loves "let's be the next cuba" as a campaign mantra lol nt
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:54 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LonePirate

(13,420 posts)
3. So their dreams do not include good wages, affordable health care, child care & education?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 02:55 PM
Feb 2020

I don't think you understand Bernie's agenda at all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
7. Bernie is letting trump define him to voters because he refuses to be strategic
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:00 PM
Feb 2020

Losers don't make policy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LonePirate

(13,420 posts)
8. There is no evidence whatsoever to prove that is happening.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:07 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
9. Most Americans see Trump as a loser whose never made either strategy or policy.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:11 PM
Feb 2020

So let's not give the guy credit for fakery. And Americans see through all that. They also see more awful things have happened on his watch than any good thing (singular) that's happened on his watch.

Maybe votes come out of that awareness more than anything Bernie does. Maybe he's just tapping into that awareness. With 48+ primaries to go, we'll see more the way voters do by summer.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
11. too many Americans see trump as a successful businessman
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:12 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to EveHammond13 (Reply #11)

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
10. Latest polling has Sanders beating Trump in WI, MI and PA
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:12 PM
Feb 2020

and doing it by more than any other candidate for the Democratic nomination (there are no recent polls for Arizona).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Fontaines D.C.

(16 posts)
12. Data?
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:13 PM
Feb 2020

Where's the data? The only hard data I've seen has come from Picketty, and that proves that Bernie is the strongest candidate. Sorry if the electorate has change, but you haven't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
13. I am! Well, heart AND head! Figure it's a win-win.
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:13 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
14. That's what I'm going to do. I'm choosing who I want to lead the country...
Mon Feb 24, 2020, 03:14 PM
Feb 2020

...not trying to game things out like some TV pundit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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