Bernie calling out ticket pricing at the debate

[David__77]

https://streamable.com/rpgi1

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Why didn't he do it before the debate?

[HarlanPepper]

10. Probably because he wasn't mad about his bad debate performance at that point.

Bernie had a really bad night.

[PatSeg]

5. I agree about the commercials

Totally inappropriate to air them during the debates. Before or after, fine, but not during.

[mikeysnot]

29. Watch on youtube

no commercials.

[Pachamama]

3. I believe its called capitalism and supply and demand?

[David__77]

9. That's correct - well, perhaps.

If they were just at a given market price without other conditions/exclusions, then sure. The thing is that even if that were the case, there might still be a critique on that. The debates are somehow considered different from a candidate's fundraiser where entry might be limited to those with ability/willingness to pay. The debates are "open" to the public in that they are televised.

Now, I'd hope that as the Democratic Party considers thing next time about the primary process, in addition to considering things like primaries vs. caucuses, it would also consider reform to the debate structure, including a system for ensuring that the audience participation is representative of the party in terms of gender, race, economic group (farmers, small business people, office workers, etc., etc.), and sexual orientation.

[Pachamama]

12. Fundraiser for DNC?

They are in need of cash to compete against the treasure trove that the GOP has amassed.

I am good with them setting prices high to raise money to fund their efforts...

[David__77]

14. I'm not referring to fundraisers, just to debates.

I don't think that the debate attendance should be a fundraiser.

[Pachamama]

24. The public can watch for free the debate...

There is no reason why after candidates have been given their free passes for family, staff, friends etc. that the DNC cannot sell the tickets for whatever they wish to set the price for fundraising purposes. There are also the costs of the venue and the production broadcasting costs, which presumably are covered by the advertising the network sells. But the DNC should absolutely be able to make it a fundraiser for itself to cover costs it has to continue to promote and run the DNC and support its presidential candidate.

[Pachamama]

33. Oh puhleeze....

The only one fueling the "establishment is against Bernie" trope is Bernie are his Bernie bros and bots who push that theory.

My point is that its ridiculous and is a straw man argument and "Oh, whoa is me....the whole system is corrupt" meme he loves to throw at the DNC, the Democrats and basically anyone who isn't impressed with him.

[Tom Rinaldo]

43. I am removing my post pending further clarification

of how tickets were distributed. I realize that all of the campaigns got equal numbers, but it is not clear if others were sold, or if not, how decisions were made as to who would get all of those other tickets. There may or may not be a problem. I am withholding comment for now.

[littlemissmartypants]

46. This may help...

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/2/25/21153769/south-carolina-democratic-debate-tickets

[RandySF]

4. The source was an inaccurate newspaper article

Campaigns were given an equal number of tickets.

[PatSeg]

6. Biden's campaign spokesperson

said they all got 35 tickets per candidate.

[jalan48]

7. Nothing says Party of the People like a $3000 ticket to get into the debate.

[redqueen]

26. I think they started at $1700 in NC. Much higher in FL I think.

But yeah, definitely these things are not attended by average Americans.

Which explains a lot.

[relayerbob]

8. Nope

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/no-democratic-debate-tickets-were-not-1-750-to-3-200-each

[David__77]

16. I wonder where Lillian Donahue got her information.

Or whichever reporter(s) who claimed to speak with party officials in the original story on this.

[relayerbob]

21. I have no idea who Lillian Donahue is

[bucolic_frolic]

11. Who wants to pay to listen to angry shouting?

[George II]

13. NO tickets were sold by the DNC or organizers!

[redqueen]

27. I don't think that can be said with any certainty. nt

[Moderateguy]

15. Another example that Bernie does not give a hoot about the Party

I don’t care if tickets were 100k each....these money raised is going to the party coffers for a GE fight, money that is desperately needed. But he needs to whine about it instead of supporting the fundraising efforts of the Party

[Jose Garcia]

17. He's a millionaire. He could have bought tickets for a few of his supporters

[Squinch]

18. Ahh. Bernie calling out. Did he DO anything about it?

[frazzled]

19. Well, it's completely false, but not surprising to hear

becoming more like Trump each day.

The tickets were divided up between the DNC, campaigns (with equal allocation), SC Dem Party, CBCI, CBS and Twitter. We invited local and community leaders, and DNC supporters.

https://www.vox.com/2020/2/25/21153769/south-carolina-democratic-debate-tickets

[yaesu]

20. exuberance

[LanternWaste]

45. "Interesting..."

[msongs]

22. bernie became multi millionaire selling his books. did he call out book prices nt

[redqueen]

32. OMG

Sometimes I wonder about this place

[HarlanPepper]

23. Boo hoo

[LizBeth]

25. Sanders being consistent whenever he loses, complain.

[octoberlib]

28. Why just this debate? Other debates have been like this and he never said anything.

Oh, that's right he got booed.

[comradebillyboy]

36. He complains about everything.

[booley]

37. Minimum donation was 1700 dollars to get a seat

Who has almost $2000 to spend on the bad seats?

Bet you it isn't who makes up the majority fo the people voting in S. Carolina.

[NYMinute]

39. The money went to the Democratic party

The party needs money too.

No one was deprived. People can watch the debate for free on TV and watching it in person is not some special privilege.

[TwilightZone]

44. Nope, most were free.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287587060

[NYMinute]

38. Typical Bernie - always whining and raging

[brooklynite]

40. As someone who's actually been to two of the debates, allow me to answer...

None of the tickets have a face value. They are allocated in different quantities to:

The DNC
The State Party
The candidates
The Media sponsor (in this case CBS)
The site host (in this case the non-profit Gaillard Center)

The DNC makes its allotment of ticket available to:
DNC leadership
Special Guests (example: Al Sharpton)
Financial Supporters (the "National Finance Committee&quot , either for a single event (Detroit was $5,000) or to people who make significant contributions for the election cycle (in my case, $50,000).

The State Party generally makes its tickets available to:
State Party leadership
State and Local Elected Officials
Local residents (usually by lottery)

The candidates make their tickets available to:
Campaign staff
Family members and Guests
Campaign supporters (usually through a "make a contribution and be entered in a contest to win tickets" deal)

The media sponsor makes their tickets available to:
Network executives
Major advertisers
Special Guests

The site host makes tickets available to:
Site management
Affiliated members (in the case of an educational institution, faculty and students)
Special Guests

[NurseJackie]

41. Aw.

Take some of that Amazon book money and subsidize the tickets. Would that be too hard?

[Old Terp]

47. Has Bernie done things to raise money for the DNC?

[W_HAMILTON]

49. He's done things to encourage people NOT to donate to the DNC or any other Democratic organizations.

[AncientGeezer]

48. He's worth a couple Mil....pay for some tickets

[betsuni]

50. Always a conspiracy theory.