Could Warren end up as the compromise candidate?

[Funtatlaguy]

Is there any chance that after Super Tuesday that there are only three viable candidates remaining: Sanders, Biden & Warren.
If so, could Warren hit the sweet spot between them as a bridge to the progressive and moderate wings? Or is she considered too progressive to lure enough moderates?

I’ve heard from some progressives that they like Bernie’s policies a little more but that they like Warrens personality more and think she could get more things done in Congress especially since she favors encouraging a Dem Senate to dump the filibuster.

[still_one]

1. That assumes a contested Convention

[denem]

6. And a contested convention where candidates

are NOT close to a majority. If Sanders (or anyone else) has (say) 45%+ of the delegates going in, it would be suicide to nominate anyone else.

[still_one]

9. Perhaps even 40%, but not 30%

[Celerity]

59. [phone]% (and the next closest under 30%) is my cutoff, as at that level or higher,

to then deny whoever is there at that level would rip the party apart

[Funtatlaguy]

10. True.

[Funtatlaguy]

7. I'm more talking about in the remaining primaries post Super Tuesday.

As a Warren supporter, I think that is her only real path.
To go into the rest of March and April and any three way debates and claim she is the best bridge and can unite the party the best.

[still_one]

15. If some candidates drop out that are eating into her votes. It is hard to tell who that is minus

Bernie

[denem]

2. Bloomberg will be in the mix.

[Funtatlaguy]

12. If he doesn't win any of the 15 on Super Tuesday, he will drop.

[Funtatlaguy]

16. It will take both wings fighting hard together to beat Trump.

[Funtatlaguy]

20. The nominee must make a wise Veep choice in that regard.

[thesquanderer]

29. I agree her VP choice was weak, and may have made the difference, but...

...I'm not sure it had to be someone progressive. The problem with Kaine wasn't just that he wasn't progressive, it's that he didn't increase the appeal of the ticket in any way. I'm sure he would have been a perfectly good VP, but what did he bring to the ticket? He generated no excitement, He didn't (AFAIK) help carry any states... I feel that, from an election perspective, the best you could say about him is that he was a safe choice who would do no damage, and I think for Hillary, maybe that was sufficient.

[ehrnst]

44. In what way was Kaine not progressive?

[ehrnst]

45. I guess you forgot about Jimmy Carter....

[thesquanderer]

31. OTOH, more Dems are comfortable with Sanders as a candidate than they are with anyone else...

...with Warren second.

See https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287569533

[emmaverybo]

52. I am not at all. Speak for yourself. Neither half as qualified as Biden. Particularly on world stage

[thesquanderer]

57. I was not speaking for you OR for me. I was talking about poll data.

Last edited Fri Feb 28, 2020, 12:50 PM - Edit history (1)

I provided a link to more info. If you want the detailed poll results, they're at

https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/200085NBCWSJFebruary2020Poll.pdf

(ETA: corrected link)

[emmaverybo]

58. Fair enough.

[comradebillyboy]

40. I would find Warren infinitely preferable to Sanders. I could get

enthusiastic about Warren where if Bernie got the nom I would never get beyond the hold my nose and vote against Trump mode.

[LizBeth]

4. Warren really is the best choices for so many reasons. It is unfortunate that she is not doing

better.

[stuffmatters]

14. Totally agree.

[Bettie]

17. Well, she lacks

male plumbing which is apparently VERY important this time around.

[LizBeth]

24. Yes.

[TDale313]

54. Uh huh.

It’s sad, but I get the impression the message a lot of people took from 2016 was that it’s just too risky nominating a woman against Trump. I don’t think that’s the case at all.

[Bettie]

55. And yet, they say it isn't sexism

it's the same song different verse: I'd be fine with a woman, but not THAT woman.

[Turin_C3PO]

5. That's what I think should happen.

She’d be a good unity candidate, I think. I’m still hoping Joe can turn things around though.

[David__77]

8. I imagine that could happen.

...

[Codeine]

13. I'd be perfectly fine with that. nt

[mvd]

19. I've always seen that as a possibility. But if the polls hold up..

Biden and maybe Bloomberg would be main challengers to Bernie. I would support Biden, vote for Bloomberg and be very happy with Warren.

[BusyBeingBest]

23. Bernie wouldn't let that happen.

[comradebillyboy]

41. Bernie won't support anybody but Bernie.

[BusyBeingBest]

42. I know. To be fair, he's got a lot of rabid support, there'd be zero reason

for him to voluntarily turn over the nomination to someone else.

[Bradshaw3]

25. Yes, she is the uniter

[LaurenOlimina]

26. Not sure.

I would love it if it happened.

[RhodeIslandOne]

27. What compromise?

Bernie Sanders wants to be President (nominee, for a smart guy he doesn't seem to get the electoral college), no matter what, and most of his supporter hate her.

[questionseverything]

28. i find most of bernie supporters love liz too

their policies are very close

she is a little more moderate than she but not terribly

[thesquanderer]

30. re: "most of his supporter hate her" - What makes you think that?

According to morningconsult, Warren is the most popular second choice for Bernie supporters, more than double the support of anyone else.

[Cal Carpenter]

39. Thats a ridiculous assertion

As a Bernie supporter who knows lots of Bernie supporters, not a single one 'hates' Warren. Come on.

I would gladly vote for Warren. If she and Bernie's results and polls were switched, I'd be on board with her instead.

[RhodeIslandOne]

50. Maybe I'm on Twitter too much

Where I see shit like this a dozen times a day.

Link to tweet

?s=20

[Cal Carpenter]

53. Most people aren't on Twitter at all, let alone for politics

Interestingly, exit polls from 2 states so far (I think Iowa and NH) had a Twitter question and they were 19% and 20% as far as people who use Twitter for politics.

I use it a bit for my small business, but the only time I see Tweets about electoral politics is here on DU.

Point being, posts like that are not necessarily very representative of the actual electorate.

[nsd]

33. Seems unlikely to me

If there are three coming out of Super Tuesday, my guess (just from current polling) is that they will be Bernie, Biden, and Bloomberg. Of course, anything is possible — the polling isn’t all that extensive and there are at least two wildcards: how does Biden do in SC? and how much did Bloomberg’s debate performances undercut him?

But there’s another reason I’m skeptical: I actually don’t think the Democratic electorate is as divided as one might suppose from reading DU. A lot of Biden supporters have Bernie as their number two. A lot of Bernie supporters have Biden as their number two. Which is to say: a lot of primary voters are not as ideologically consistent as posters here are. They’re not really voting as progressives or moderates, or on the basis of idealism vs pragmatism. I imagine some people are judging candidates on entirely different metrics: Bernie, while gruff, is authentic; Biden is kind; Warren and Buttigieg are smart; Bloomberg is competent and efficient. By those metrics, we don’t really need a compromise candidate because a lot of people will be satisfied with whoever gets the nomination.

[OliverQ]

34. This is why I've always wanted Warren.

She's a good middle ground between the left and the middle and she has some great plans. She's also the only candidate who flat out said she'd setup the DoJ to allow prosecutors to investigate and prosecute the entire Trump admin for their endless crimes.

But sadly Warren doesn't seem to be doing well, and she polls poorly against Trump.

[blm]

38. She doesn't poll poorly against Trump.

And the more people get to know her those polls will tick up even more.

[Quixote1818]

35. Yes!

[MD shmoo]

36. What compromise? Picking the person who gets less votes?

Why would the party’s “compromise” pick be the candidate who is at best in 4th place? The Venn Diagram of her and Bernie is basically a single circle with the only differences being she’s female and doesn’t give the “old man yelling at clouds” vibe. Merely the fact that “she isn’t Bernie” isn’t a compromise and offers zero concession to the moderate wing (and mutual concessions are the whole point of a compromise).

[LAS14]

37. I've been hoping for that for months. And I think it might be in her "plan" too. Even...

.. if it doesn't happen until the convention.

[squirecam]

43. How is she a compromise candidate.

If she can’t win any Super Tuesday states?

Let’s be realistic people. After Tuesday, your choices are Sanders or Biden. Bloomberg May win a state, but he seems to be fading. Warren is currently losing her home state. Amy will win Minnesota, but that’s likely it for her. Pete has no state where he is leading either.

We are not going to compromise on a candidate who finishes with little delegates. That’s Warren, Pete and Amy. Bloomberg can stay in but his money no longer seems as imposing as it once was.

[totodeinhere]

46. I love Elizabeth but lets face it, she hasn't exactly been burning up the ballot box in the first

three contests. We shall see how she does in S.C. and on Super Tuesday. But if her electoral fortunes do not improve I think we would be better off looking elsewhere for a compromise candidate if it comes to that. I heard on Morning Joe the other day that there are whispers about another well known Democratic woman who could be a compromise candidate if the convention becomes hopelessly deadlocked over the current candidates. And you better believe that if offered Hillary would accept the nomination.

[Jersey Devil]

47. Bernie without the baggage

It would be a good compromise.

[Demsrule86]

48. From what I can see she gets no delegates from SC...I like Warren but she needs to drop out at this

point. I have no doubt money will be the deciding factor.

[Dem2]

49. Quavery voice

I wish she was consistently a strong speaker, but she has good days and bad. Not sure I think she's the best compromise.

[LAS14]

56. I sure hope so! nt