
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 07:49 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,704 posts)
"Older Voters " like it's a dirty word
Maybe it’s time to listen to the people who have years of accumulated memory and wisdom.
Baby Boomers took to the streets against Vietnam They remember life when there was dignity in our leaders and traditions, They knew and acted when there was a bad President - Nixon Perhaps in this crazy time with this horror in office, we should listen when they say we need the antithesis of trump as our leader. Coupled with a youthful, energetic and optimistic VP! (Just like one of their grandkids)
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
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Author | Time | Post |
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Laura PourMeADrink | Feb 2020 | OP |
showblue22 | Feb 2020 | #1 | |
brush | Feb 2020 | #34 | |
DAMANgoldberg | Feb 2020 | #2 | |
handmade34 | Feb 2020 | #3 | |
2naSalit | Feb 2020 | #4 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Feb 2020 | #8 | |
2naSalit | Feb 2020 | #10 | |
Beartracks | Feb 2020 | #12 | |
TruckFump | Feb 2020 | #13 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Feb 2020 | #38 | |
unc70 | Feb 2020 | #14 | |
2naSalit | Feb 2020 | #16 | |
unc70 | Feb 2020 | #18 | |
2naSalit | Feb 2020 | #22 | |
mcar | Feb 2020 | #5 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Feb 2020 | #17 | |
mcar | Feb 2020 | #21 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Feb 2020 | #43 | |
oasis | Feb 2020 | #6 | |
Mariana | Feb 2020 | #7 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Feb 2020 | #9 | |
Mariana | Feb 2020 | #20 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Feb 2020 | #27 | |
Beartracks | Feb 2020 | #31 | |
LaelthsDaughter | Feb 2020 | #11 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Feb 2020 | #23 | |
katmondoo | Feb 2020 | #15 | |
2naSalit | Feb 2020 | #19 | |
cwydro | Feb 2020 | #24 | |
Siwsan | Feb 2020 | #25 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Feb 2020 | #28 | |
Siwsan | Feb 2020 | #30 | |
Meadowoak | Feb 2020 | #33 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Feb 2020 | #39 | |
drray23 | Feb 2020 | #26 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Feb 2020 | #29 | |
Sparkly | Feb 2020 | #32 | |
mitch96 | Feb 2020 | #35 | |
catbyte | Feb 2020 | #36 | |
rownesheck | Feb 2020 | #37 | |
George II | Feb 2020 | #40 | |
PatSeg | Feb 2020 | #41 | |
ehrnst | Feb 2020 | #42 | |
Baked Potato | Mar 2020 | #44 |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 07:50 PM
showblue22 (1,026 posts)
1. Yes.
Time to listen to African Americans and older voters.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to showblue22 (Reply #1)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:13 PM
brush (46,078 posts)
34. Yes, don't leave out the civil rights achievements of Boomers. No other cohort...
has accomplished as much since the union movement and has the wisdom from experience to know what's up.
One thing being, America will never elect a socialist. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 07:55 PM
DAMANgoldberg (1,278 posts)
2. Funny, I am now one of those "older voters"
Yes, I value experience and stability. Don't get me wrong, I would love M4A and the GND, but they just don't happen in our political system to the expediency that some may want. 💯
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 07:57 PM
handmade34 (22,160 posts)
3. yes... we weren't just sitting around smoking weed...
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:02 PM
2naSalit (67,483 posts)
4. Aren't aging boomers
a majority population these days?
After reviewing info from Pew research https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/essay/an-early-look-at-the-2020-electorate/ It appears that Boomers are 28% (down from 40% in 2000) of the voting population while GenXers are now around 25% and Millennials are around 27%. Only the Millennials are showing about the same amount as in 2016 while the other two groups are showing a slight decline from 2016. Boomers, still largest voting group, though probably not for long..? ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:10 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,704 posts)
8. That's interesting. It just seems to me like this is not
a typical time. I actually think older voters will come out in droves against trump.
Guess it's a clash between those who have their whole life ahead of them and trump is just a minor roadblock and those who are looking back and thinking that our country HAS to get rid of this monster. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #8)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:15 PM
2naSalit (67,483 posts)
10. I agree and don't anticipate
typical results this time around. I, too, think it has to do with age and experience vs. hopes without the history to guide one's aspirations.
Those of us who have seen bad presidents from Nixon onward have a whole lot of lived experience to guide our voting preferences. I want progress but I'm not willing to throw out the things that have made this country livable to force an uncertain change that could doom all life on the planet. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #8)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:18 PM
Beartracks (12,022 posts)
12. And they want to save our society before their golden years start.
I know I'd much rather the future -- MY future -- be shaped by liberal democracy than Trumpian conservatism.
======== ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #8)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:23 PM
TruckFump (5,006 posts)
13. Screw with Social Security and Medicare
And watch the Boomers hit the polls.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to TruckFump (Reply #13)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:05 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,704 posts)
38. IF they know about it! Lots of bad shit under radar due
to trump's mastery at media manipulation.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:25 PM
unc70 (5,613 posts)
14. Numbers don't look right
I looked at the link, but those numbers don't look right for Boomer actuarial data. (Compared to SS and other data.) It looks like too many deaths during the intervening years. Several percent too many. Keep in mind the oldest Boomers are just beginning to turn 74.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to unc70 (Reply #14)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:29 PM
2naSalit (67,483 posts)
16. To be honest
I was a little surprised by the numbers myself.
Maybe I can find a better source. Give me a few minutes... ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to 2naSalit (Reply #16)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:32 PM
unc70 (5,613 posts)
18. Pew is usually pretty good
They just seem to have too many of us on the fast track out of the voter pool (and everywhere but the dead pool).
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to unc70 (Reply #18)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:36 PM
2naSalit (67,483 posts)
22. That's what I found to be odd.
I'm a boomer and I know we are a large population. I'm a middle boomer, born in the 50s, and I was always in the largest class ever seen in many of the public schools I attended.
I think there's a lot of uncounted in most tallies anyway. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:02 PM
mcar (40,332 posts)
5. And we vote
Looking at the exit polling, more of us in the 50+ range vote that the younger folks.
They should vote. I wish they'd vote. But they don't. Not like we do. (I'm 61 and have voted in every election.) ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mcar (Reply #5)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:29 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,704 posts)
17. Good point. I was at a Beto rally in a park at night in
Austin. I was absolutely amazed at how many young people were there and they were excited, waiting for Beto, like a rock star was about to perform.
Think the key to booting the monster out is a combo of age and wisdom and experience with someone pure in heart and mind who can energize the youth. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #17)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:36 PM
mcar (40,332 posts)
21. Yes, young people need to vote
Going to a rally is easy and fun. Registering, and voting, takes a wee bit of work.
I fear that our younger Democrats need to "fall in love," as is said. We don't do a good enough job of educating them as to their civic duty and right. It's not that hard. My youngest, who is 22, was apathetic and blah, blah, not going to vote when he was heading toward 18. I give all the credit in the world to our county supervisor of elections, who goes to all the high schools and talks to students about voting. She can pre-register them. After her presentation, my kid registered to vote and voted for Hillary in 2016. The Supervisor of Elections is the only Republican I've ever voted for. She is wonderful. Retiring this year in my very red county. I hope her replacement is as dedicated to turning out the vote and fair elections as she has been. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mcar (Reply #21)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:49 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,704 posts)
43. Now that's a poll that would be very interesting. Why
Do young voters care or not care (blah blah blah)
The young people I have met now in Texas don't care one iota. Good for you! Making a change one child at a time. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:05 PM
oasis (48,699 posts)
6. Excellent OP.
![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:06 PM
Mariana (14,378 posts)
7. The majority of older voters cast their ballots for Trump in 2016. nt.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Mariana (Reply #7)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:14 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,704 posts)
9. Really? I suppose it was a lot of...I have seen him in TV
And he's a brilliant business man? The Netflix documentary on him said he was the best self promoter ever. They showed old clips of everyone including media fawning all over him. We were duped.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #9)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:35 PM
Mariana (14,378 posts)
20. "We were duped."
Really? You'd think all those "years of accumulated memory and wisdom" would have prevented that. I guess not.
Anyway, I don't agree with you. I don't think most of the Trump voters were duped. I think most of them knew exactly who and what they were voting for. That's why his support has remained so stable for so long. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Mariana (Reply #20)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:48 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,704 posts)
27. Watch the documentary - we are talking about the middle
here, who saw a fake personna on TV - not his bigoted base. Hell, I didn't even think he was a horror until his Obama birther deal.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #9)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:01 PM
Beartracks (12,022 posts)
31. "self promoter" That's all there is with Trump. The rest is flim flam. n/t
======== ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:16 PM
LaelthsDaughter (150 posts)
11. Yes and no
While I deeply appreciate the wisdom you bring, I think the younger generation is using the wisdom you have presented and are broadening it’s horizons. We are simply expanding the idea of what is reasonable for the people.
I’m sure you know Burnie’s platform so you know that liberal is how the younger people feel. Isn’t it a good thing we want these things for the country? Also: I love Pete, he is still my main man. Just know I prefered Burnie in 2016. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to LaelthsDaughter (Reply #11)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:38 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,704 posts)
23. Of course and I truly appreciate that. It's really been crazy
With half of us wanting to get rid of trump as the primary goal. And half of us wanting to primarily advance our beliefs. Think you can accomplish both though with a candidate like Biden coupled with a forward looking, youth energizing, more liberal thinker as VP.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:27 PM
katmondoo (6,368 posts)
15. I am old and the first thing I thought when Trump won in 2016 was this was a coup. It really was.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to katmondoo (Reply #15)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:34 PM
2naSalit (67,483 posts)
19. +1
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:38 PM
cwydro (48,501 posts)
24. Rec.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:43 PM
Siwsan (23,975 posts)
25. This was the conversation I had with a young Buttigieg supporter, today
She was canvassing for Pete and I was upfront, with her, that I am a Biden supporter. And what you wrote is pretty close to what I said, to her. We don't have the luxury of allowing anyone some sort of learning curve. Our candidate has to be ready to take charge and kick butts on day one.
I also let her know that I like Pete and with more experience, on a federal level, I see great things ahead, for him. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Siwsan (Reply #25)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:55 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,704 posts)
28. I know, been trying to open my mind to the others running
who I would typically love. But when you see a path to removing trump, it's hard not to dismiss everyone.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #28)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:58 PM
Siwsan (23,975 posts)
30. What I see, in our group of candidates, is a great administration
I'm hoping to see some, both current and past, helping to restore this nation, at our next President's side.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #28)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:06 PM
Meadowoak (3,756 posts)
33. After all, we are all just rooting for different players on the same team. Vote blue no matter who!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Meadowoak (Reply #33)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:26 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,704 posts)
39. Yes, some with happy enthusiasm, some with noses held.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:47 PM
drray23 (6,930 posts)
26. The other term I've seen thrown around is that
Joe Biden is a regional candidate. To me it implies, he only caters to African Americans and that's somehow a bad thing . Smacks of bigotry.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to drray23 (Reply #26)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:57 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (40,704 posts)
29. Yet others are "regional" n more left leaning places.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to drray23 (Reply #26)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:02 PM
Sparkly (24,085 posts)
32. Hillary Clinton got hit with that, too.
Where African Americans predominated, it was claimed by her opponent that those were just "red states" so they didn't matter anyway.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:19 PM
mitch96 (11,856 posts)
35. Older? I like the new speak version,"Legacy" voter....... always got to spin the vernacular, eh?..nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:25 PM
catbyte (31,567 posts)
36. Amen. I am one of those "older voters" and it's an insult. I remember life before
Roe v. Wade, saw photos of American Apartheid as a kid before the Civil Rights Act was passed. Hell, I remember us not being able to eat at a restaurant in northern lower Michigan when I was a little kid because my mom was "a dirty Indian." That was my first exposure to injustice and inequality. I marched for equal rights and other causes that younger folks take for granted. We may be old, but we're not dead. Now if some of these little pishers who blithely dismiss us as irrelevant would bother to vote, I'd have more respect for them.
And get off my lawn! ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:31 PM
rownesheck (2,304 posts)
37. Older voters.
I may not always agree with them, but they sure as hell understand the importance of voting, and voting EVERY TIME.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:34 PM
George II (67,782 posts)
40. Exit polls tonight showed that voters 65+ outpaced 17-29 THREE to one! It was 29% to 10%
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:40 PM
PatSeg (44,534 posts)
41. I'm an "older voter"
and I trust this version of me a lot more than the younger one.
Also, I remember what life used to be like for women and minorities. I am more liberal than I've ever been, but now I have the judgement that comes with years of experience. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:42 PM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
42. Because they aren't a demographic that is getting behind Bernie.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 12:24 AM
Baked Potato (7,211 posts)
44. Yes!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |