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Sat Feb 29, 2020, 07:49 PM

 

"Older Voters " like it's a dirty word

Maybe itís time to listen to the people who have years of accumulated memory and wisdom.

Baby Boomers took to the streets against Vietnam

They remember life when there was dignity in our leaders and traditions,

They knew and acted when there was a bad President - Nixon

Perhaps in this crazy time with this horror in office, we should listen when they say we need the antithesis of trump as
our leader. Coupled with a youthful, energetic and optimistic VP! (Just like one of their grandkids)
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Reply "Older Voters " like it's a dirty word (Original post)
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 OP
showblue22 Feb 2020 #1
brush Feb 2020 #34
DAMANgoldberg Feb 2020 #2
handmade34 Feb 2020 #3
2naSalit Feb 2020 #4
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #8
2naSalit Feb 2020 #10
Beartracks Feb 2020 #12
TruckFump Feb 2020 #13
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #38
unc70 Feb 2020 #14
2naSalit Feb 2020 #16
unc70 Feb 2020 #18
2naSalit Feb 2020 #22
mcar Feb 2020 #5
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #17
mcar Feb 2020 #21
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #43
oasis Feb 2020 #6
Mariana Feb 2020 #7
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #9
Mariana Feb 2020 #20
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #27
Beartracks Feb 2020 #31
LaelthsDaughter Feb 2020 #11
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #23
katmondoo Feb 2020 #15
2naSalit Feb 2020 #19
cwydro Feb 2020 #24
Siwsan Feb 2020 #25
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #28
Siwsan Feb 2020 #30
Meadowoak Feb 2020 #33
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #39
drray23 Feb 2020 #26
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2020 #29
Sparkly Feb 2020 #32
mitch96 Feb 2020 #35
catbyte Feb 2020 #36
rownesheck Feb 2020 #37
George II Feb 2020 #40
PatSeg Feb 2020 #41
ehrnst Feb 2020 #42
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 07:50 PM

1. Yes.

 

Time to listen to African Americans and older voters.
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Response to showblue22 (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:13 PM

34. Yes, don't leave out the civil rights achievements of Boomers. No other cohort...

 

has accomplished as much since the union movement and has the wisdom from experience to know what's up.

One thing being, America will never elect a socialist.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 07:55 PM

2. Funny, I am now one of those "older voters"

 

Yes, I value experience and stability. Don't get me wrong, I would love M4A and the GND, but they just don't happen in our political system to the expediency that some may want. 💯
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 07:57 PM

3. yes... we weren't just sitting around smoking weed...

 

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:02 PM

4. Aren't aging boomers

 

a majority population these days?

After reviewing info from Pew research https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/essay/an-early-look-at-the-2020-electorate/

It appears that Boomers are 28% (down from 40% in 2000) of the voting population while GenXers are now around 25% and Millennials are around 27%.

Only the Millennials are showing about the same amount as in 2016 while the other two groups are showing a slight decline from 2016.

Boomers, still largest voting group, though probably not for long..?
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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:10 PM

8. That's interesting. It just seems to me like this is not

 

a typical time. I actually think older voters will come out in droves against trump.

Guess it's a clash between those who have their whole life ahead of them and trump is just a minor roadblock and those who are looking back and thinking that our country HAS to get rid of this monster.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:15 PM

10. I agree and don't anticipate

 

typical results this time around. I, too, think it has to do with age and experience vs. hopes without the history to guide one's aspirations.

Those of us who have seen bad presidents from Nixon onward have a whole lot of lived experience to guide our voting preferences. I want progress but I'm not willing to throw out the things that have made this country livable to force an uncertain change that could doom all life on the planet.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:18 PM

12. And they want to save our society before their golden years start.

 

I know I'd much rather the future -- MY future -- be shaped by liberal democracy than Trumpian conservatism.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:23 PM

13. Screw with Social Security and Medicare

 

And watch the Boomers hit the polls.
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Response to TruckFump (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:05 PM

38. IF they know about it! Lots of bad shit under radar due

 

to trump's mastery at media manipulation.
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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:25 PM

14. Numbers don't look right

 

I looked at the link, but those numbers don't look right for Boomer actuarial data. (Compared to SS and other data.) It looks like too many deaths during the intervening years. Several percent too many. Keep in mind the oldest Boomers are just beginning to turn 74.
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Response to unc70 (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:29 PM

16. To be honest

 

I was a little surprised by the numbers myself.

Maybe I can find a better source. Give me a few minutes...
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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:32 PM

18. Pew is usually pretty good

 

They just seem to have too many of us on the fast track out of the voter pool (and everywhere but the dead pool).
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Response to unc70 (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:36 PM

22. That's what I found to be odd.

 

I'm a boomer and I know we are a large population. I'm a middle boomer, born in the 50s, and I was always in the largest class ever seen in many of the public schools I attended.

I think there's a lot of uncounted in most tallies anyway.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:02 PM

5. And we vote

 

Looking at the exit polling, more of us in the 50+ range vote that the younger folks.

They should vote. I wish they'd vote. But they don't. Not like we do. (I'm 61 and have voted in every election.)
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Response to mcar (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:29 PM

17. Good point. I was at a Beto rally in a park at night in

 

Austin. I was absolutely amazed at how many young people were there and they were excited, waiting for Beto, like a rock star was about to perform.

Think the key to booting the monster out is a combo of age and wisdom and experience with someone pure in heart and mind who can energize the youth.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:36 PM

21. Yes, young people need to vote

 

Going to a rally is easy and fun. Registering, and voting, takes a wee bit of work.

I fear that our younger Democrats need to "fall in love," as is said. We don't do a good enough job of educating them as to their civic duty and right.

It's not that hard. My youngest, who is 22, was apathetic and blah, blah, not going to vote when he was heading toward 18. I give all the credit in the world to our county supervisor of elections, who goes to all the high schools and talks to students about voting. She can pre-register them. After her presentation, my kid registered to vote and voted for Hillary in 2016.

The Supervisor of Elections is the only Republican I've ever voted for. She is wonderful. Retiring this year in my very red county. I hope her replacement is as dedicated to turning out the vote and fair elections as she has been.
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Response to mcar (Reply #21)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:49 PM

43. Now that's a poll that would be very interesting. Why

 

Do young voters care or not care (blah blah blah)

The young people I have met now in Texas don't care one iota.

Good for you! Making a change one child at a time.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:05 PM

6. Excellent OP.

 

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:06 PM

7. The majority of older voters cast their ballots for Trump in 2016. nt.

 

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Response to Mariana (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:14 PM

9. Really? I suppose it was a lot of...I have seen him in TV

 

And he's a brilliant business man? The Netflix documentary on him said he was the best self promoter ever. They showed old clips of everyone including media fawning all over him. We were duped.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:35 PM

20. "We were duped."

 

Really? You'd think all those "years of accumulated memory and wisdom" would have prevented that. I guess not.

Anyway, I don't agree with you. I don't think most of the Trump voters were duped. I think most of them knew exactly who and what they were voting for. That's why his support has remained so stable for so long.
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Response to Mariana (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:48 PM

27. Watch the documentary - we are talking about the middle

 

here, who saw a fake personna on TV - not his bigoted base. Hell, I didn't even think he was a horror until his Obama birther deal.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:01 PM

31. "self promoter" That's all there is with Trump. The rest is flim flam. n/t

 


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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:16 PM

11. Yes and no

 

While I deeply appreciate the wisdom you bring, I think the younger generation is using the wisdom you have presented and are broadening itís horizons. We are simply expanding the idea of what is reasonable for the people.

Iím sure you know Burnieís platform so you know that liberal is how the younger people feel. Isnít it a good thing we want these things for the country?


Also: I love Pete, he is still my main man. Just know I prefered Burnie in 2016.
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Response to LaelthsDaughter (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:38 PM

23. Of course and I truly appreciate that. It's really been crazy

 

With half of us wanting to get rid of trump as the primary goal. And half of us wanting to primarily advance our beliefs. Think you can accomplish both though with a candidate like Biden coupled with a forward looking, youth energizing, more liberal thinker as VP.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:27 PM

15. I am old and the first thing I thought when Trump won in 2016 was this was a coup. It really was.

 

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Response to katmondoo (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:34 PM

19. +1

 

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:38 PM

24. Rec.

 

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:43 PM

25. This was the conversation I had with a young Buttigieg supporter, today

 

She was canvassing for Pete and I was upfront, with her, that I am a Biden supporter. And what you wrote is pretty close to what I said, to her. We don't have the luxury of allowing anyone some sort of learning curve. Our candidate has to be ready to take charge and kick butts on day one.

I also let her know that I like Pete and with more experience, on a federal level, I see great things ahead, for him.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #25)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:55 PM

28. I know, been trying to open my mind to the others running

 

who I would typically love. But when you see a path to removing trump, it's hard not to dismiss everyone.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #28)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:58 PM

30. What I see, in our group of candidates, is a great administration

 

I'm hoping to see some, both current and past, helping to restore this nation, at our next President's side.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #28)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:06 PM

33. After all, we are all just rooting for different players on the same team. Vote blue no matter who!

 

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Response to Meadowoak (Reply #33)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:26 PM

39. Yes, some with happy enthusiasm, some with noses held.

 

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:47 PM

26. The other term I've seen thrown around is that

 

Joe Biden is a regional candidate. To me it implies, he only caters to African Americans and that's somehow a bad thing . Smacks of bigotry.
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Response to drray23 (Reply #26)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 08:57 PM

29. Yet others are "regional" n more left leaning places.

 

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Response to drray23 (Reply #26)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:02 PM

32. Hillary Clinton got hit with that, too.

 

Where African Americans predominated, it was claimed by her opponent that those were just "red states" so they didn't matter anyway.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:19 PM

35. Older? I like the new speak version,"Legacy" voter....... always got to spin the vernacular, eh?..nt

 

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:25 PM

36. Amen. I am one of those "older voters" and it's an insult. I remember life before

 

Roe v. Wade, saw photos of American Apartheid as a kid before the Civil Rights Act was passed. Hell, I remember us not being able to eat at a restaurant in northern lower Michigan when I was a little kid because my mom was "a dirty Indian." That was my first exposure to injustice and inequality. I marched for equal rights and other causes that younger folks take for granted. We may be old, but we're not dead. Now if some of these little pishers who blithely dismiss us as irrelevant would bother to vote, I'd have more respect for them.

And get off my lawn!
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 09:31 PM

37. Older voters.

 

I may not always agree with them, but they sure as hell understand the importance of voting, and voting EVERY TIME.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:34 PM

40. Exit polls tonight showed that voters 65+ outpaced 17-29 THREE to one! It was 29% to 10%

 

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:40 PM

41. I'm an "older voter"

 

and I trust this version of me a lot more than the younger one.

Also, I remember what life used to be like for women and minorities. I am more liberal than I've ever been, but now I have the judgement that comes with years of experience.
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:42 PM

42. Because they aren't a demographic that is getting behind Bernie.

 

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2020, 12:24 AM

44. Yes!

 

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