Bernie fan:"If Joe Biden didn't have dead children t use to try to win an election he'd invent them"

[awesomerwb1]

A Bernie supporter actually tweeted this. What a disgusting thing to say. And she has other bernie fans agreeing with her.

I have no words.

Link to tweet

?s=20

[Pachamama]

1. The other side of the Tribalism Coin from Trump Supporters

Disgusting....

But it comes from the same deep dark place in a person's true being....

[Vivienne235729]

113. +1

[NYMinute]

119. +1000000

I have always highlighted the similarities between the two.

They pooh pooh the glaring negatives or call them fake news and cherish undeliverable promises like build a wall or free tuition

[Gravitycollapse]

2. Seems all of the top replies are people denouncing her.

[awesomerwb1]

9. Except for the people who agree with her which you're somehow missing

But your take is interesting yet entirely predictable.

[Gravitycollapse]

12. I mean, you're not being honest. I checked and it's universal disgust.

Which actually makes your attempt to leverage this to score points kind of gross. Be better than this.

[sweetloukillbot]

33. Apart from the 3000 likes and retweets?

[Gravitycollapse]

34. Do you know how easy it is to create a bot farm? 3000 likes is nothing.

Those likes clearly do not correspond to the actual responses to the post. I suspect this entire thing is fake.

[sweetloukillbot]

62. Sure... From an outspoken Sanders supporter

With 43k followers and a long history of inflammatory comments.

[Gravitycollapse]

63. A now suspended account.

[GaYellowDawg]

65. Was it Sanders who suspended it? Or his campaign? Or his supporters?

Then you don't get to claim that as a point in your favor.

[Gravitycollapse]

69. LOL Yes, I forgot Sanders' campaign runs twitter. Pathetic. Grow up.

[sweetloukillbot]

70. No it isn't

I just opened it. Nice try. Keep on apologizing for it.

[Gravitycollapse]

75. Do you honestly think I'm apologizing for this? Shame on you for even suggesting that.

[sweetloukillbot]

82. Cry me a river

You don't get to pretend that Shit is fake, get proven otherwise then play the victim. Boo fucking hoo. The proper response is, "that is sick, and has no place in this disclose," not " prove its real"

[Gravitycollapse]

86. The post is self-evidently horrible. I don't have anything more to say about it.

[sweetloukillbot]

88. Then why are you posting so much trying to dismiss it?

Your awfully invested in proving its fake, our at least diminishing its impact. I wonder why.

[Gravitycollapse]

89. I'll be honest, I'm angry that anyone would suggest it represents the Sanders movement.

[sweetloukillbot]

93. Then call it out and don't make excuses

But Sanders Supporters won't do that. It's always someone eke.

[Rilgin]

104. Because its the outrage of the day. Find something stupid some one says and go ballistic -- proof

I overheard in a café, two people discussing the primaries. Both supported Biden. One said "Maybe we will get lucky and Bernie will die of another heart attack". Reprehensible or a not? Did they really wish him dead or is it just sarcasm. Should it dominate the airwaves as outrage.

Over and over, people post "Bernie wants to take away your health care". Does this apply to sick people. It certainly would seem to. Does Bernie really want to take health care away from a sick person. Pretty reprehensible if you take the attack seriously and under your type standard, it should be the product of mass outrage. Should these two attacks permanently mar every Biden supporter forever with a stain they can not get rid of. Maybe every Biden supporter should post hundreds of posts a day apologizing for the maligning of Bernie intimating that he wants to take health care from people.

The real answer is that people post stupid stuff every day and your post and my examples should just be shrugged off if you support Biden. People feel emotions in primaries and post stupid stuff that can be read either with support or outrage.

Every person on this site could find something stupid in the world to post outrage posts. You should just stop posting outrage posts every time you think your favorite is being impugned and further associating it with the candidate and all the candidates supporters.

Not posting such stupid and divisive outrage posts would do good things for this site. Further, it serves no purpose other than to inflame divisions and hurt our path to beating trump with whoever our candidate is. We do not need stupid outrage over the fact that our favored candidate has opponents who are equally supported by other people both on this site and in the electorate.

[Vivienne235729]

115. That's a horrible thing to say as well.The point though, is that biden supporters will CALL it that.

Biden supporters will call a spade a spade. In fact, supporters of every other candidate will call a spade a spade except for Bernie's. Bernie supporters don't. They do one of 3 things:
1. Say that it could be a bot (even though trump is all in for a bernie primary win. If anything, bots should be pro bernie)
2. Make excuses that it is just 1 person acting like the lone wolf and their campaign has no control
3. Ignore it and wish it away

[Rilgin]

120. ivdid not see any supporters rejecting or denouncing.

Biden supporters and supporters of other candidates echoed the attacks on Bernie taking away peoples health care. The culinary union in nevada put out a pamphlet saying that. Did Buden or any supporter denounce it.

No because these types of attacks happen in primaries. The only problem is your claim that Bidena nd his supporters would denounce the specious claims levied against bernie and his general supporters.

[awesomerwb1]

95. Not suspended

Anyone can click on the tweet to see when you're saying the account is suspended you're not being "accurate".

Incredible.

[TexasTowelie]

102. No, I don't know how to create a bot farm.

I've never had a need to create a bot farm since I'm not on Twitter, but please share your experience with a "how-to" manual and procedures since it is so easy.

Why would anyone need to know how to create a bot farm in the first place unless they are intent on deceiving other people?

[GaYellowDawg]

35. Ahem.

Link to tweet

[Gravitycollapse]

36. You've successfully found one positive response out of hundreds.

As I said to the OP, the attempt to leverage this to further some political agenda is actually pretty disgusting on its own.

[GaYellowDawg]

39. Ahem.

Link to tweet

[Gravitycollapse]

47. Search all you want. 2 replies out of hundreds is nothing. Scroll for hours.

[GaYellowDawg]

53. That didn't age well, did it?

More like minutes.

[Gravitycollapse]

59. It actually did. Keep posting them. Go ahead. I see the hundreds of denunciations.

[GaYellowDawg]

64. What percentage of those denunciations are Sanders supporters?

Not a majority.

[Gravitycollapse]

66. So what's your argument here? What's the larger message you're trying to convey?

[GaYellowDawg]

99. Okay. I went too far with that.

And I'll put up a post saying it.

[cwydro]

110. Do you think you're converting people to your cause here.

Because you’re not, nor are the ones you’re arguing with.

This kind of nonsense is puerile and serves no purpose at all.

No one on DU is responsible for what others tweet, for gods sake.

[quakerboy]

85. The original tweet is disgusting

The Pamela response is doubling down on something that should result in turned backs.


The Hannah response is a rebuke to the Pamela. Like.. reminding people of why we fight is exactly what we are supposed to be doing. Regardless of who we are supporting in the primary

[fleabiscuit]

44. There's more. nt

[GaYellowDawg]

45. Want more?

Here's more.

Link to tweet

[GaYellowDawg]

49. And more.

Link to tweet

[GaYellowDawg]

52. And more.

Link to tweet

[GaYellowDawg]

55. And more.

Link to tweet

[Gravitycollapse]

56. Account was suspended. Probably a troll account and troll responses. Nice job helping them.

[GaYellowDawg]

73. This one isn't suspended.

Link to tweet

[GaYellowDawg]

76. Nor is this one.

Link to tweet

[GaYellowDawg]

78. Or this one.

Link to tweet

[Cha]

77. Big chuck beth has 43.6 followers and needs to be exposed.

[Gravitycollapse]

54. Cool. I'm not going to waste my time posting the literal hundreds of denunciations.

[GaYellowDawg]

60. Most of which are NON-Sanders supporters.

But you do you. If you don't have a problem allying yourself with the spiritual brothers and sisters of Ann Coulter, then I guess seeing your defense completely obliterated doesn't embarrass you, either.

[First Speaker]

3. This is worthy of Trump himself...

...all that needs to be said...

[Cha]

4. I saw that desperate disgraceful

despicable pos trash tweet.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Rick Wilson was right.

Juicebox revolutionaries and sanctimonious ratfuckers. That reached Trumpian depths and they ought to be ashamed, but I’m sure they aren’t.

[Cha]

100. And, Charlie Pierce..

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

111. Wrong attribution on my part!

[Cha]

118. No worries..

[emmaverybo]

6. So many were disgusted at Twitter. A person like that stews in hatred. I don't believe this

sort of sickness reflects Bernie. I don’t think he is cruel or inhumane. But every movement no matter how worthy gets its share of psychos.

[ancianita]

8. +1000

[comradebillyboy]

29. I no longer give Sanders the benefit of the doubt.

I haven't for quite a while now.

[ancianita]

7. He-said/She-said bullshit. How about some actual People Proof.

Link to tweet

[Cha]

11. Your trying to deflect from the despicable OP

isn't working.

[ancianita]

13. Nah. You don't know what's working.

[Cha]

17. Still not working.

[ancianita]

18. "Despicable." Fixed that for you.

[Cha]

19. Thank you

[awesomerwb1]

15. Uhh, I posted the tweet where she said that

I guess your commodore computer must've not displayed it or something.


"He said she said"

Defending the indefensible. Great job.

[ancianita]

20. Well, you DID say, "I have no words." Thought I'd give you some.

[squirecam]

21. For a Warren supporter

You seem awfully happy that Warren is going to lose her home state to him.

[ancianita]

25. Not at all. Doesn't mean I don't know how to Support Other Democrats.

There is way more going on here than mere history and political records of candidates.

[fleabiscuit]

50. Diverse looking group. nt

[wnylib]

10. Is this even worth repeating

since it was originally said in order to be cruelly divisive?

Disgusting and calloused, yes, but why give it a broader forum?

[ancianita]

14. +1

[Gravitycollapse]

16. You read my mind. Why reprint this garbage on DU?

[sweetloukillbot]

79. Yeah why show the toxic behavior of Bernie supporters?

I mean is not like he's actually going to do anything about it or his supporters here will actually denounce it. They're just going to deny it is a real person despite evidence v to the contrary.

[wnylib]

90. Your reaction is why I question

the wisdom of repeating it. It stirs up that kind of anger from both supporters and opponents of Sanders.

We could better focus our energy on fighting Trump than each other.

[sweetloukillbot]

91. So we should ignore it?

That's smart. Maybe we should do that when Trump says bday things too? Wouldn't want to get people riled up.

[wnylib]

97. Bitterness in primaries carries over

into the general.

As for ignoring it, sometimes, though not always, that is the wisest choice when the goal of the person making the comment is to arouse outrage and anger.

If Sanders himself had said it, that would be different. It would deserve a response then.

Trump is a good example. He plays to the attention and divisiveness of arousing outrage. The media plays into that too, by amplifying his comments. Better to calmly disagree and then use our energy for concrete action instead of burning it up in outraged anger.

[Grown2Hate]

57. Thank you! 100% my point. Every post I see here, I ask myself...

"WHAT is the purpose of the post? Is it to UNIFY or DIVIDE?". It's REALLY to spot dividers that way.

[wnylib]

94. Yes, we have to remember that after

the primaries, we need to be together in the general. Sowing bitterness now is counterproductive for the future.

Regardless of the source of this comment, whether it was a genuine Sanders supporter, a Russian interloper, or a Republican opperative, it is best ignored and forgotten.

[Grown2Hate]

96. Thank you for this thoughtful post. And I couldn't agree more...

I hate seeing anything posted on DU that wouldn't move one person's primary vote (because people aren't persuaded by attacks against their chosen candidate), because it serves no purpose but to divide. ACTUAL argument and well thought out persuasion? Of course that opens discussion and opens us up to more information and a more informed choice. THAT I love.

But anything that's just meant to sow division? We can't afford that now.

[napi21]

22. I have no reason to think this is true, but I did read that when the Russians ry to sow discord

amoung the em voters, they use tweets & similar sites to plant statements that will rile people against each other., Do you suppose that's what this tweet was

[Grown2Hate]

24. 100%. Otherwise, it serves no purpose.

[awesomerwb1]

46. Nah

She's no russian troll. Zero chance of that if you know how twitter works.

[Cha]

81. bigchuckbeth has 43.6 Followers & needs to be Exposed.. Thank You!

and 2.8 likes.

Damn troll alright.. but not russian

[Grown2Hate]

23. Unless I'm missing something (which is possible), you're posting something disgusting

on DU from a literal NO ONE on Twitter. There's lots of vile shit on Twitter, and 99.9999999% of it doesn't make it to DU. So, what does posting this, here, actually accomplish?

As if it needs to be send, the content of her post is FUCKING disgusting. But again; how is something this disgusting, from an actual NO ONE, posting on Twitter, end up being posted HERE, and to what end? Seriously curious. #DIVIDEANDCONQUER

[ancianita]

26. +1000

[awesomerwb1]

28. That "literal no one on Twitter"

has 43.6 thousand followers and the tweet has been liked 2.3 thousand times. If you have a problem with her "divide an conquer" message feel free to jump on twitter and criticize the person who said it. How many followers do YOU have on twitter?

[coti]

31. You're likely falling for troll psy-ops. nt

[relayerbob]

41. Agreed

[Grown2Hate]

32. It'd be pissing into a whirlwind. FUCK Twitter. 43.6 thousand followers?

SO... (bar napkin math) 0.000256% of the adults over the age of 18 in the United States "follows" this asshole who said a shitty thing. And 2.3 THOUSAND likes?!? WHOA!!! So... 0.0000109% of adults over the age of 18 in the US "liked" that post (and some of those, not of voting age, could be under the age of 18)? Sounds like a fucking NO ONE to me.

Yes, to your point, I'm even MORE of a no one. Cool. LoL

[awesomerwb1]

37. LOL congrats on your new calculator

In the context of Twitter which YOU brought up ( ), not the universe, 43.6 is quite significant.

But hey, on your next post maybe you could work out the numbers for every insect as well.

"0.0000109% ". CMTSU

[Grown2Hate]

38. Yes, thank you Google. LoL But... insects? Because insects vote?

You haven't answered my question: WHY was this posted? WHO does it serve? I'll wait.

[awesomerwb1]

71. Because all adults over 18 in the US vote?

You must be getting tired from moving the posts so much. Feel free to Google what that means.
I came back with something almost as silly as your magical numbers calculation that assumed that EVERY adult person in the US is using the twitter machine.

Keep waiting by the way. I'll have my answer for you shortly. Very shortly. Just wait ok? It's coming shortly. In less than 0.0000109 years. Keep waiting. Don't fall asleep!

[Grown2Hate]

84. So your post is to DIVIDE. Got it. I mean, I didn't need a calculator

for that; it was pretty obvious from the outset, and confirmation was too easy to get. As someone set to divide, I'll waste no more breath (typing? finger... presses?) on you. Starting...

[awesomerwb1]

87. Riiight

You would be kicked out of any debate team. You can think what you want to think.

The division nonsense is coming from certain members of certain candidates but I think you already know that. Bye!

[Grown2Hate]

48. OH, I'm sorry. I see where I miscommunicated.

I meant, a LITERAL NO ONE, that HAPPENS to be on Twitter, not a "literal no one on Twitter". Sorry for being unclear; that's my fault.

However, again, FUCK anyone on Twitter attempting to divide us. I'll vote blue NO MATTER WHO, and there are no caveats to that. If we all here don't agree that 4 more years of Trump is an existential threat, then I don't know what I'm doing here.

[relayerbob]

27. This is probably Russian troll bait

They are working overtime to stir up shit, so given the responses (which are pretty much all in disgust), I don't think it's reflective of Sanders or anyone else. IMO, this post should be deleted by the OP, although I don't think it violates rules per se.

[Qutzupalotl]

58. Agreed. The poster's previous screen name was

“Joe Biden is a Racist.” So you read that every time you engage with her/it. This is definitely a shit-stirrer.

We have been warned Russia is meddling in our elections already, using this inexpensive method to get us fighting amongst ourselves, all factions on all sides against one another. That weakens America, and Russia thinks it makes them look good by comparison.

[Sapient Donkey]

30. On the plus side, it only has 2,800 likes

Which isn't a lot considering she seems to be "popular" and that post is getting a lot of attention. Although, the fact 2.8k people agreed with it enough to like is still pretty disturbing. But at least it's not 120k likes....

[Gravitycollapse]

40. I just want to reiterate: Your attempt to leverage this to further your agenda is disgusting.

A seriously low blow against Sanders supporters and Biden. Don't perpetuate this trash. Be better than this.

[ancianita]

43. +1

[dotism]

42. Bros will be bros.

If you have been working on the Warren campaign, one will have witnessed and have been subjected to behavior from Sanders supporters that trumps Trump. Truly vile stuff from all directions all the time...

One learns to deal with it. Though when alone at night, one weeps for our party.

[ancianita]

61. I'm an old lady Warren supporter and this ain't about "bros" behavior trumping Trump.

Bros are your boogeyman. No time to weep for the party.

I know even Warren knows this is about US. Not bros.

This is about hating on the idea that the time is NOW. Not on Bernie.

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[Gravitycollapse]

51. The account was suspended. It's a troll/psy-op account. Nice job doing exactly what it wanted.

[Grown2Hate]

67. Although you're correct (and I 100% agree with your premise), this is

a slightly differently named account. For all we know, it's the same person with a NEW account, which makes even more sense as a psy-op account, but it's different.

My point above stands; FUCK posting something incendiary from a no one that happens to be on Twitter on DU to divide us. We're not that fucking stupid.

[ancianita]

74. +1

[awesomerwb1]

83. An account could be suspended for different reasons

assuming it was the same person which you do not know for sure.

Analysis shows it's not a bot/troll. But nice try.

[grossproffit]

107. Wrong account. @BethLynch2020 is very much still active.

[fleabiscuit]

68. There is an honorable way to extinguish a dumpster fire... nt

[rockfordfile]

92. Kind of seems like right-wing crap. I wouldn't be surprised that's really a trump supporter

[RhodeIslandOne]

98. Look, this is silly

The lady in Iowa who wanted to disavow Mayor Pete when she found out he was gay was an Amy fan.

Fuck her too.

Everyone has bad fans.

[trickyguy]

101. It only reflects Bernies long record of being stubborn and uncooperative.

Supporters usually reflect the values of their candidate.

Look at those who support rTrump. The deplorables.

[Paka]

103. I agree. it's disgusting.

However, he did invent trying to visit Mandela.

[RandySF]

105. I believe these trolls call themselves the "Dirtbag Left"

Coined by Amber A'Lee Frost in 2016, now a co-host of the left-wing United States podcast Chapo Trap House.

A left-wing political faction that eschews respectability politics to convey a more vulgar socialist message, emphasizing action over political correctness. quotations ▼

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dirtbag_left

[Cha]

106. And, as happens they overkill and only hoisting

on their own petards.

[beachbumbob]

108. Its pretty sad that these people portray themselves as "caring" liberals with tactics like this

[KayF]

109. you are so disgusted you just HAD to spread it

so VERY disgusted!!!

[Cha]

121. Yes.. it's important to know what

filth is out there. who the **** do they think they are that they can get away with this shite?!

[ehrnst]

112. I hear Sanders is the "unifying" candidate. Perhaps some of supporters didn't get the memo.

[mcar]

114. Sen. Sanders has condemned this, I'm sure

Right?

[lark]

116. Reason # whatever that I don't support Bernie.

He has the absolute nastiest supporters of all the Democrats, they are bordering on trumpism, they are so bad. If they weren't his supporters, why isn't his campaign calling them out for being trolls? Their silence implies assent and tolerance of the vile hate.

[Rilgin]

122. Why is there not immediate outage against your post

Shouldnt Biden immediately denounce your poat calling democrats who aupport another candidate horrible.

Where is the outrage or in your mind whatever obe says about Bernie or his supporters is ok but we should be outraged because someone not the candidate who support Bernie say or write something you object to? Personally I find both the tweet and your response divisive and outrageous.

[Vivienne235729]

117. Oh wow. That is just heinous. Absolutely heinous.