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Moderateguy

(945 posts)
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 06:46 PM Mar 2020

I now have serious concerns about Sanders' intentions..

Up until today I disagreed with the man’s methods but brushed them off. This latest “existential threat” crap has me seriously considering if this man has good intentions or if he’s just an agent of chaos sent to divide the Democratic Party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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I now have serious concerns about Sanders' intentions.. (Original Post) Moderateguy Mar 2020 OP
I share your concern. Mme. Defarge Mar 2020 #1
If you're my age (66), Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Mar 2020 #12
Well said ploppy Mar 2020 #3
He has been very clear: "This campaign has never been just about electing a president -- betsuni Mar 2020 #4
Bernie and His Advisors Are Out To Get Control of the Dem Party Indykatie Mar 2020 #5
His intentions are to fight for working people the way he has DanTex Mar 2020 #6
Why was he not in Selma today? sheshe2 Mar 2020 #7
So do I. But I expect a career politician to have have more to show for it than "intentions" ehrnst Mar 2020 #9
Well, there is this showblue22 Mar 2020 #8
Definitely something to be thinking about. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2020 #10
Yes, I've felt that way for a long time now. comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #11
 

Mr.Bill

(24,454 posts)
2. If you're my age (66),
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 06:55 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie is that guy who organized walkouts at your high school that only a few people responded to. He is the guy who stood in the quad with a bullhorn ranting about the "establishment" while you were trying to eat your lunch and talk to your girlfriend.

Then he stepped up the game in college.

Then he graduated and turned pro.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #2)

 

betsuni

(26,549 posts)
4. He has been very clear: "This campaign has never been just about electing a president --
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 07:57 PM
Mar 2020

as enormously important as that is. This campaign is about transforming America."

The original existential threat quote from last year about Bernie: "He has made it his mission to either get the nomination or to remake the party in his image as a democratic socialist. That is an existential threat to the future of the Democratic Party for the next generation." The Third Way Democrats think Bernie as the nominee would alienate crucial voting blocs, losing to Trump. If he isn't the nominee, he'll continue his movement against the party because as he said again today -- he thinks they're corrupt corporatists ignoring the working and middle class.

He really got mad at Third Way when they praised Elizabeth Warren and Politico did an article, "Centrists are coming around to Elizabeth Warren as an alternative to Bernie Sanders." Everybody knows Warren is progressive. Yet again he had to try to make it sound like he's the only true progressive and his positions are unique to him: "The cat is out of the bag. The corporate wing of the Democratic Party is publicly 'anybody but Bernie.' They know our progressive agenda of Medicare for All, breaking up the big banks, taking on drug companies and raising wages is the real threat to the billionaire class."

His opinions are based on incorrect information, he likes disruption and division and negativity. His intentions are bad.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Indykatie

(3,739 posts)
5. Bernie and His Advisors Are Out To Get Control of the Dem Party
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:00 PM
Mar 2020

similar to the way the far right took over the GOP. It must not happen.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
6. His intentions are to fight for working people the way he has
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:01 PM
Mar 2020

his entire career. It’s not complicated or mysterious. The simple fact is that we have given too much ground to the wealthy and to corporations and Bernie wants to take that ground back.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sheshe2

(84,932 posts)
7. Why was he not in Selma today?
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:04 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
9. So do I. But I expect a career politician to have have more to show for it than "intentions"
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 09:32 PM
Mar 2020

book sales at WalMart and on Amazon.

The simple fact is that Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton lapped him on consumer advocacy and free healthcare before they were even in elected office.

Consumer Financial Protection Bureau:

In July 2010, Congress passed the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, during the 111th United States Congress in response to the Late-2000s recession and financial crisis. The agency was originally proposed in 2007 by then Harvard Law School professor and current US senator Elizabeth Warren.


What comparable achievements does Sanders have that compares to the CFPB or Dodd-Frank?

CHIP got free health care to 8 million uninsured low income children. What's the number of people that Bernie has gotten coverage for - other than his family, and the people he hires?

In 2007, Kennedy told the Associated Press that Hillary Clinton played a critical role in CHIP.

"The children's health program wouldn't be in existence today if we didn't have Hillary pushing for it from the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue," Kennedy said.

Nick Littlefield, a senior health adviser to Kennedy at the time, agreed.

"She wasn't a legislator, she didn't write the law, and she wasn't the president, so she didn't make the decisions," Littlefield told the Associated Press. "But we relied on her, worked with her and she was pivotal in encouraging the White House to do it."
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

showblue22

(1,026 posts)
8. Well, there is this
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 08:18 PM
Mar 2020

Quote: Americans across the spectrum were united in outrage and in seeking their safe return. Sanders, at the time, was a backer of an obscure Marxist-Leninist political party that pledged support for the Iranian theocracy and defended the hostage-taking"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/02/10/bernie-sanders-radical-past-donald-trump-attack-fodder-column/4706779002/

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
10. Definitely something to be thinking about. (nt)
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 09:33 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,261 posts)
11. Yes, I've felt that way for a long time now.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 09:49 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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