CNN with ridiculous hit piece on Biden

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resistance to desegregation effort

https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2019/04/11/lead-zeleny-dnt-biden-live-jake-tapper.cnn

Going all the way back to 1970’s? Why? Is that really necessary? This primary season is going to be really ugly unfortunately. It seems like Biden has the big target on his back right now. I wonder who is next.

[LakeArenal]

1. Whomever gains momentum.

[BannonsLiver]

2. +1

I like Biden’s strategy of sort of hanging back a little. At first it was irritating but the wisdom has become clear.

[LongtimeAZDem]

3. Will CNN will do a story on how Sanders was living in a basement stealing electricity at that time?

Or maybe something from Kamala Harris' second-grade writings?

[Indygram]

5. Or someone farted and covered the world with glitter and as a result raised $10 million in 30 days

And then when Beto raises $7 million in 15 days they will ignore him completely aside from showing an out of context clip of a partial quote aimed to imply that he said something that he didn't actually say.

[BlueFlorida]

7. lol

If that happened, glitter is the last thing that would come to my mind.

[Indygram]

8. I was trying to be nice

It's just really frustrating that Beto gets minimized. The one candidate that I genuinely like so much that it would make me switch my registration from Independent to Democrat just to be able to vote for him in Florida and I may not get the chance. It's so annoying.

[BannonsLiver]

9. I wouldn't worry too much about it

One, DU is not necessarily representative of what’s happening in the real world (see: Kamala Harris leading the pack) and Beto’s Campaign is still finding its footing. He has the money but he still has to get the organization worked out. I believe he will be a formidable candidate when the lights are on and it’s game day.

[Indygram]

11. Well, I actually got an email a few days asking me to organize canvassing for Beto from his campaign

I am in a red district in Florida. That tells me that the campaign is not only focusing on the early states. They are working on building a grassroots machine already. I wish I were physically able to go knocking on doors, but I've got some health stuff going on so I really can't.

He reminds me so much of Obama in so many ways. I also like that he's taller than Trump. In fact, at 6'4" I think he would be tied with Abraham Lincoln as the tallest president.

[BannonsLiver]

13. He has talent

I’m of the belief that usually rises to the top. He will have plenty of opportunities to demonstrate that in the debates etc.

[Indygram]

14. I just noticed on twitter that Beto is organizing a 50 state canvassing event this weekend

I guess that is what the email I got was about.

Here is the tweet: (This is my first attempt to add a tweet so hopefully it works right, lol)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Have plans this weekend? We're going to be knocking on doors across the country as we continue to hit the ground running. It's going to take all of us talking to voters in all 50 states to build a winning grassroots campaign. Find a canvass near you here: <a href="https://t.co/OChztzIot3">https://t.co/OChztzIot3</a> <a href="https://t.co/2XHpdadoWd">pic.twitter.com/2XHpdadoWd</a></p>— Beto O'Rourke (@BetoORourke) <a href="

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[BlueFlorida]

23. This should be an OP nt

[True Blue American]

29. Yes,

I have been getting email for some time to organize..

I am a leading Democrat in my County according to Dems, yet received a 2 foot invitation from Trump to be a founding member of his organization. The more money I give the higher I go in the organization!

Kind of reminds me of the pink gold watch with a genuine diamond I bought at Walmart for $12 because I was tired of paying $10 for watch batteries!

[BlueFlorida]

12. Biden-Beto would be an unbeatable ticket nt

[Indygram]

15. I really like Biden too

I'm super salty about the attempts to lampoon him.

[dsc]

17. Biden was a sitting Senator

and took a position that literally gave aid and comfort to Jesse Helms. This isn't 2nd grade writings.

[LongtimeAZDem]

20. Yes, and he took a position against a well meaning but poorly implementd plan that tore a city apart

[CentralMass]

31. Statements that he made at the time went a bit beyond that.

[Demsrule86]

4. It won't hurt Biden.

[BlueFlorida]

6. It's a non story

Biden was against busing but was for desegregation.

Thurgood Marshall had the exact same opinion as Biden.

[dsc]

16. no Marshall didn't

In 1971 Marshall join the opinion that affirmed busing and in point of fact wanted to be much stronger than it was. In 1974 Marshall wrote a dissenting opinion that wanted busing to cross School District Lines. That is the exact opposite that's what Biden's opinion at the time was

[Hassin Bin Sober]

19. Correct.As Jessie Jackson said, "it's not the bus, it's us"

As Jessie Jackson said, “it’s not the bus, it’s us”

I see people trying to re-write history trying to claim bussing was a disaster for reasons other than racist white backlash.

This is an op ed from Jessie Jackson

IT'S NOT THE BUS. IT'S US.
By JESSE L. JACKSONMARCH 8, 1982
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Political opportunists in the Senate want to turn the Supreme Court's school-desegregation decision in Brown v. Board of Education into an Indiary treaty - a law on the books, but unenforceable.

The Senate has voted, 57 to 37, to bar Federal courts from ordering, for racial reasons, the busing of children more than five miles from home or ordering children to travel by bys longer than 15 minutes. The bill, on which the House must also vote, would allow the Justice Department to ask the courts to overturn existing desegregation plans that require busing in violation of these two new guidelines.

It was not just Republicans who voted for the bill. There is emerging a conspiracy between Democrats and Republicans and between the executive and legislative branches to take away Federal legal protections for which thousands of people, black and white, have struggled and died. First, the executive branch granted tax-exempt status to private schools that practice racial discrimination - a snafu from which it is still trying to extricate itself. Next, the legislative branch attempts to pass laws ensuring that segregation in publicly supported schools will continue. The Senate did not propose ending all busing, only busing for desegregation. If it had outlawed all busing, education would have halted. Handicapped, rural, and private-school children ride buses to school. In fact, 55 percent of all schoolchildren ride buses daily.

But this is not the kind of busing that upsets white people. It is the 3.6 percent of public school students who are bused because schools are illegally segregated. Riding the bus to school is all right as long as it is not to desegregate the schools. I can only conclude that it's not the bus that upsets these 57 white Senators - it's us (black people). Desegregation, I remind these lawmakers, is the law of the land.

These attacks on busing are diversionary. The central issue is not transportation; it is equal protection under the law. ''Antibusing'' is a code word for racism and rejection. Where busing has failed

- it has mostly succeeded - the failure has been organized by demagogues using schoolchildren as political stepping stones. Where there has been moral, civilized white leadership, desegregation - including busing - has worked.


A new twist has been added. Some say that not only are whites against busing, but that blacks are, too. True, some blacks oppose busing, but not for racial reasons. Blacks sometimes are against busing because all decisions about desegregation are being made for them, not with and by them. Students, teachers, and administrators have been desegregated, but power has not been. Now, 100 white Senators are making decisions that affect blacks' educational opportunity. When power is not desegregated, black children, parents, and educators have no way of protecting themselves or redressing grievances.

What grievances? As documented by Nancy L. Arnez, chairman of the department of educational leadership and community services, at Howard University, desegregation in a power vacuum has had the following disastrous consequences for the black community: 1. The loss of teaching and administrative jobs by blacks through dismissals and demotions. 2. The loss of millions of dollars in projected earned income. 3. The loss of racial role models, heroes, and authority figures for black children. 4. The loss by black children of cherished school symbols, colors, emblems, and names of schools when their schools are closed and they are shifted to white schools. 5. In the new setting, subjection to resegregated classes and buses, and exclusion from extracurricular activities. 6. A disproportionate number of black students suspended, expelled, and pushed out of school. 7. Exposure of black children to hostile attitudes and behavior by white teachers and parents. 8. Forced oneway busing policies and the uprooting of black children for placement in hostile school environments without any support systems. 9. Misclassification of blacks into special education classes and tracking systems. 10. Unfair disciplinary practices and arbitrary school rules and regulations. 11. Ignorance of black learning styles, culture, and social, educational, and psychological needs.

These are entirely different reasons than the ones whites give. The Senate, the President, and the American people should not misinterpret any black opposition to busing. It is not opposition to desegregated education. It does not mean blacks are willing to bargain away their constitutional rights just because busing is not popular. Justice and equal opportunity for blacks in America never have been popular. That is why we need the protection of the law. So the Senate and the President, rather than trying to figure out ways to circumvent morally sound and just laws, should instead concentrate on upholding and enforcing them. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Rev. Jesse L. Jackson is national president of Operation PUSH (People United to Serve Humanity).

[BlueFlorida]

22. Read Post No. 21

[dsc]

39. You are plain, flat out wrong

just wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

42. You have it backward.

The case

Milliken v. Bradley, 418 U.S. 717 (1974),[1] was a significant United States Supreme Court case dealing with the planned desegregation busing of public school students across district lines among 53 school districts in metropolitan Detroit. It concerned the plans to integrate public schools in the United States following the Brown v. Board of Education (1954) decision.[2]

Argument by NAACP

The NAACP argued that although schools were not officially segregated (white only), the city of Detroit and the State as represented by its surrounding counties had enacted policies to increase racial segregation in schools. The NAACP also suggested a direct relationship between unfair housing practices (such as redlining) and educational segregation.[8]

Finding by lower court agreeing with NAACP

District Judge Stephen J. Roth held the State of Michigan as well as the school districts accountable for the segregation. The Sixth Circuit Court affirmed some of the decision, specifically the official segregation that had been practiced by the City's school district, but the Appeals Court withheld judgment on the relationship of housing segregation with education. The Court specified that it was the state's responsibility to integrate across the segregated metropolitan area.[9]

Finding by Supreme Court overturning pro NAACP ruling

The Supreme Court overturned the lower courts in a 5-to-4 decision, holding that school districts were not obligated to desegregate unless it had been proven that the lines were drawn with racist intent on the part of the districts. Thus, superficially arbitrary lines drawn by State agencies which produced segregated districts were not illegal.[4][10]

Dissent by Marshall

Justice Thurgood Marshall's dissenting opinion stated that:

School district lines, however innocently drawn, will surely be perceived as fences to separate the races when, under a Detroit-only decree, white parents withdraw their children from the Detroit city schools and move to the suburbs in order to continue them in all-white schools.[11]

[BlueFlorida]

21. You are wrong.

Milliken v. Bradley, 418 U.S. 717 (1974), was a significant United States Supreme Court case dealing with the planned desegregation busing of public school students across district lines.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/418/717/

Justice Thurgood Marshall's dissenting opinion stated that:

School district lines, however innocently drawn, will surely be perceived as fences to separate the races when, under a Detroit-only decree, white parents withdraw their children from the Detroit city schools and move to the suburbs in order to continue them in all-white schools.

[dsc]

26. ah no, he was advocating for BUSING ACROSS DISTRICT LINES IN THAT CASE

The court held that busing couldn't be done across district lines unless it could be proven that the lines were drawn with the intent of discriminating against blacks. Marshall and the other three justices argued that intent shouldn't matter, busing should be required if the effect of the lines was to create nearly all white districts and nearly all black ones. That is diametrically opposed to Biden's position.

[BlueFlorida]

28. He was NOT

The court decided to enforce busing. Thurgood Marshall dissented.

Biden's point (and Marshall's) was that either the entire state gets busing or it will fail.

[dsc]

37. No they most certainly didn't

you are mixing up Swann v McKlenberg where a county wide system was forced to bus, Marshall joined that opinion and in point of fact wanted it to be stronger than it was in terms of requiring busing with Milliken v Bradley where the court held busing couldn't be ordered across district lines (the dissent you quote is from that case). In Milliken they were trying to have Detroit city schools bused into other districts in Wayne County to prevent white flight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milliken_v._Bradley

[True Blue American]

33. Wrong decision!

[True Blue American]

32. I was against bussing!

So were the blacks who lived close to neighborhood schools. Destroyed City Schools all over.

I have had many discussions with blacks who thought they should fix underperforming schools.

Congress wasted millions on that asinine bill!

[BlueStater]

10. We shouldn't have a presidential candidate who has to defend things he did like 45 years ago.

I really, really wish he wouldn't run.

[Kahuna7]

18. I was politically aware at that time. There was so much resistance

to busing on both sides of the issue that eventually the practice died out with a whimper not a roar.

[marylandblue]

25. Yes, that's what I recall too. I was in school at the time and white parents were not allowing.

They fought tooth and nail. Politicians who didn't fight bussing risked their careers.

Unfortunately, this still can be a problem for Biden as the media obsesses over it, as they did with Kerry and the Vietnam War.

I don't think Biden should sit back on this. Schools in minority neighborhoods still underperform. He should take the lead on new solutions.

[True Blue American]

34. Not before it destroyed the system.

Those who could moved out, all races. Those who could not afford to suffered.

[brooklynite]

24. I don't become emotionally involved with my candidates...

...and therefore I don't need to interpret every negative story as a "hit piece" or "assassination" or "bashing".

[CentralMass]

35. Same here. Conversely I dont feel the need to sycophanticaly defend them.

[sfwriter]

27. He has been on the wrong side of a LOT of issues.

Expect to see it all.

[Skinner]

30. CNN is doing Biden a favor here.

We've got 10 months until the Iowa Caucus. This stuff is all public record. The earlier it gets out the better.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Biden camp is feeding this stuff to the media behind the scenes. They know this is out there, and they know they will have to respond to it eventually. Better to deal with it now so it's old news in 2020.

[Kahuna7]

40. I agree. nt

[dewsgirl]

36. CNN has seriously disappointed me over the last couple of months. I love Tapper, Acosta and

Don Lemon, but just can't watch.

[Funtatlaguy]

38. The silver lining for Biden in all of this....

He’s getting a lot of this negative stuff outta the way before he even announces.

The really good news for Biden (or whomever gets our nomination) is that Trumps paranoia and dementia is only going to get worse before Nov 2020.

[MineralMan]

41. Biden has a target on his back because he is leading, even

before he officially announces. Joe Biden is the "anti-Trump." That's his main selling point. He is not boastful and narcissistic. He's not proposing ideas that have yet to gain acceptance among voters. He is the opposite of Donald Trump. That's his appeal right now, I think.

Will that carry him through the primaries and to the nomination? Yes, I think it will. Not everyone is looking for a firebrand President to replace Trump. A lot of people are contemplating voting for a hard-working guy who smiles a lot and doesn't say things that worry them. A lot of people want to reverse most of what Trump has done, but are unsure what to do after that. A lot of people are looking for a familiar face who can return them to familiar places.

A lot of people are not reading discussion forums and arguing about the definitions of socialism. A lot of people would like a break from the turmoil that has marked Trump's presidency. A lot of people want someone who will regain control and take the noise down to a dull roar, rather than a shouting match.

Don't discount those people. They like Joe Biden. He's a likable guy. That's pretty much who they're looking for right now. Don't discount their votes, and keep in mind that those people actually do vote. They vote in every election, including primaries. They believe that is how things should be. Those people are not reading DU. In fact, they're not following all of this so much right now. They all want, however to:

VOTE HIM OUT!