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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

RandySF

(58,900 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:26 AM Mar 2020

Poll: Biden has small lead over Trump in Michigan

Former Vice President Joe Biden holds a small lead over President Trump in a head-to-heard matchup in Michigan, according to a new poll released Thursday by the Market Research Group.

The poll showed that 44 percent of respondents surveyed favored Biden, compared to Trump, who garnered 41 percent support from participants.

The poll also showed incumbent Sen. Gary Peters (D-Mich.) ahead of his Republican opponent, John James, by seven points, 3 percentage points over the margin of error.



https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/489791-poll-biden-and-trump-neck-and-neck-in-michigan

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Poll: Biden has small lead over Trump in Michigan (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2020 OP
KR.. Cha Mar 2020 #1
Hay Michiganers! Make that a gigantic lead over dumpo, will yas please? 😙 sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #2
My head hurts luvallpeeps Mar 2020 #9
My poor noggin, my nerves, my innards... sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #15
Oopsie, I meant to reply to the OP. sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #3
Love you, too, sprinkleen! Cha Mar 2020 #5
This scene is even more stressful than worrying about contracting that demonic virus. sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #11
Thanks, Sprink! I really appreciate that. Cha Mar 2020 #14
Incoming- sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #16
Lol.. you are so Funny! Cha Mar 2020 #17
I get silly, comical, angry, emotional, teary, I wail... sprinkleeninow Mar 2020 #18
WTF? Why this this even close? Moostache Mar 2020 #4
Better "close" now and Wide when the Cha Mar 2020 #6
Nate the nerd says Market Research is a so-so poll BidenBacker Mar 2020 #7
That's the only poll I've seen that puts it that close. That polling outfit isn't very good. catbyte Mar 2020 #8
Good to know.. Mahalo, Michigander.. Cha Mar 2020 #12
Thank you. You, too! catbyte Mar 2020 #24
Got your little mask on.. Cha Mar 2020 #25
Good Lord BidenBacker Mar 2020 #10
lololololol Cha Mar 2020 #13
Wtf, Clinton isn't even behind in any of those listed Hav Mar 2020 #26
The Persistence Of 'Bernie' Sir, Is Quite Something The Magistrate Mar 2020 #27
You're right, Hav BidenBacker Mar 2020 #30
Now that's a 200 IQ play Hav Mar 2020 #32
Within the margin of error James48 Mar 2020 #19
With all due respect to your location BidenBacker Mar 2020 #20
+1000 padah513 Mar 2020 #22
Numbers are numbers BidenBacker Mar 2020 #23
Michigan expanded absentee voting between 2016 and 2020 Mad cow Mar 2020 #28
Good point BidenBacker Mar 2020 #31
Im still rooting MFM008 Mar 2020 #21
This Poll is from March 16-20 released Thurs. For a Poll from March 17-26 released yesterday by still_one Mar 2020 #29
The lead should have been much wider NCProgressive Mar 2020 #33
 

sprinkleeninow

(20,250 posts)
2. Hay Michiganers! Make that a gigantic lead over dumpo, will yas please? 😙
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:32 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

luvallpeeps

(935 posts)
9. My head hurts
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:49 AM
Mar 2020

thinking about anyone who would want 4 more years of this shit! Seriously.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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sprinkleeninow

(20,250 posts)
15. My poor noggin, my nerves, my innards...
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:18 AM
Mar 2020

What in the hell is not working in these knucklehead people?

Edit to say: not being disparagingly critical of the people in Michigan at all.

These wreakers are here around me also. You just want to scream!

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sprinkleeninow

(20,250 posts)
3. Oopsie, I meant to reply to the OP.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:37 AM
Mar 2020

'Twas to be not a mistake. Hi Cha, my sojourner in this present state of affairs hopefully soon to be over and done with!

Love you!

🏖💜🌈🙏💐🕊🦋🦄

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Cha

(297,312 posts)
5. Love you, too, sprinkleen!
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:41 AM
Mar 2020

Yes, in the mean time how are you doing with our lockdown status?

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sprinkleeninow

(20,250 posts)
11. This scene is even more stressful than worrying about contracting that demonic virus.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:03 AM
Mar 2020

Just got my dogga daughter's mobile grooming in today. Today Friday, shutting down all non essential businesses. This one may change bc there's virtually no really close contact between us hoomans. Me, 'kooky wise acre lady bearing gifts' gave the groomer $$ payment, 2 rolls TP and four nice organic honeycrisp apples. 😆We shall see regarding the future. I can still bring her to our vet and have her done there. I just need to sit in the back seat with her and sumbuddy drive. Don't laugh. Last year for her annual checkup and immunizations, my priest came over and took us!😄 When I asked him, he said it'll be fun. Mommie self medicated before. Kidding! I still had my husband's car and we took it. They ended up buying it in December for the mrs. There is some kinda spiritual tie going on there. They miss my husband bad. He served our church community faithfully. Sprink, well she's easy breezy bohemian at times, when the spirit moves me. 😇

I pray you and yours keep healthy, and may resources to fill your needs be met. 💜

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Cha

(297,312 posts)
14. Thanks, Sprink! I really appreciate that.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:16 AM
Mar 2020

Glad your doggie is taken care of for now. I know how important our dogs and cats are.. and birds!

We got shutdown on Wednesday here.. only can go out for groceries and meds. And, we can run and take walks. Thank Goodness bc I don't take meds but I need to run!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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sprinkleeninow

(20,250 posts)
16. Incoming-
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:20 AM
Mar 2020
🙏💜
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Cha

(297,312 posts)
17. Lol.. you are so Funny!
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:25 AM
Mar 2020

💜

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sprinkleeninow

(20,250 posts)
18. I get silly, comical, angry, emotional, teary, I wail...
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:30 AM
Mar 2020

'They' say it happens. Sheesh.

A calm and peace-filled night be to you and yours. 🌠

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Moostache

(9,895 posts)
4. WTF? Why this this even close?
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:38 AM
Mar 2020

ARe you all huffing freon?

This is not a tough call people...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(297,312 posts)
6. Better "close" now and Wide when the
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:42 AM
Mar 2020

time comes to Vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
7. Nate the nerd says Market Research is a so-so poll
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:45 AM
Mar 2020

They only get a B/C grade. Monmouth gets an A+ from 538 and they have Joe up by 7 in MI which is more believable...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_biden-6761.html

Recent poll rankings here...

FiveThirtyEight’s Pollster Ratings

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

Biden ahead in several key battleground states. Wish the election was tomorrow even if nobody could vote because of the virus.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

catbyte

(34,402 posts)
8. That's the only poll I've seen that puts it that close. That polling outfit isn't very good.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:47 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,312 posts)
12. Good to know.. Mahalo, Michigander..
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:07 AM
Mar 2020

StaySafe, catbyte!

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catbyte

(34,402 posts)
24. Thank you. You, too!
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:43 AM
Mar 2020

😷

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Cha

(297,312 posts)
25. Got your little mask on..
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:49 AM
Mar 2020

Good girl!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
10. Good Lord
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:02 AM
Mar 2020

Hillary STILL ahead of Bernie 4 years later and she ain't even running...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/democratic_2020_nomination/

Too damn funny. Bet that made Nina give out a primal ear-piercing scream.

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Hav

(5,969 posts)
26. Wtf, Clinton isn't even behind in any of those listed
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:56 AM
Mar 2020

And now Cuomo has overtaken him as well. Again, another one who isn't even running. That makes it even more questionable why BS continues to remain in the race and it shows how futile all this is. This isn't about personal preferences, people are more inclined to put their money on the line for options that aren't even in the race because they see that as the better investment.

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The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
27. The Persistence Of 'Bernie' Sir, Is Quite Something
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:05 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:13 AM - Edit history (1)


From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway.


From Mr. Chait at New York magazine:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/bernie-sanders-democratic-primary-joe-biden-2020-voters-establishment.html



"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
30. You're right, Hav
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:41 AM
Mar 2020

Maybe Bernie's poll numbers will be higher in 2024 if he DOESN'T run?

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Hav

(5,969 posts)
32. Now that's a 200 IQ play
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:07 AM
Mar 2020

Bernie, drop out, that might increase your chances to win!
But time is of the essence. Clinton and Cuomo already have a headstart.

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James48

(4,436 posts)
19. Within the margin of error
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:47 AM
Mar 2020

I’m here in Michigan, and I can tell you there is no enthusiasm for Joe from a large portion of traditional Dems here.

It’s not that people dislike him- its that he just doesn’t have campaign electricity, enthusiasm or spark.

His VP pick needs to be someone that gets enthusiasm injected into the campaign, or else winning is going to be a real problem in November. Joe will have to get turnout, and that is going to take electricity.

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Undecided
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
20. With all due respect to your location
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 02:32 AM
Mar 2020

maybe you're hanging out with the wrong crowd? Because the numbers belie your observations.

Turnout in MI in the 2016 Dem primary was well under 1.2 million. Hillary lost it to Bernie by about 1.5% yet went on to lose the state by less than a lousy 11,000 votes in the general election.

Turnout in the 2020 primary soared to almost 1.6 million...a whopping increase of roughly 1/3 more. Biden got 838,000 votes...more than 70% of what BOTH 2016 candidates got combined. And that doesn't even include another +100,000 votes cast early that went to other candidates who have endorsed Joe. And this was with Biden not campaigning in your great state until the eve of the election!

Sure seems to me that the data indicates more than enough enthusiasm to overcome the razor slim margin Trump won by in 2016. Maybe Michigan should worry less about electricity in Joe's campaign and more about getting the electricity turned back on in all their now-dark auto plants?

https://apnews.com/30595986ddb58ff567de1ca3f1872de2

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-primary-elections/michigan-results?icid=election_usmap

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padah513

(2,503 posts)
22. +1000
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:08 AM
Mar 2020

Just like the truth, facts can never change

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
23. Numbers are numbers
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:37 AM
Mar 2020

They'd look the same to me if I was sitting in downtown Detroit instead of little Flagstaff. I enjoy reading anecdotal posts written by folks here from all over the nation but in the end they're still anecdotes and don't often give us the bigger picture.

Did you see what Trump just said about their Governor? THIS oughta help Trump a lot in the great state of Michigan...

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/03/26/coronavirus-president-trump-whitmer-declaration-of-emergency/2923617001/

Go ahead, Michigan...double down on your 2016 stupidity and vote for this evil asshole again. The whole country is counting on you to be a little smarter than that next time around. Pretty sure PA is wising up real fast.

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Mad cow

(92 posts)
28. Michigan expanded absentee voting between 2016 and 2020
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:07 AM
Mar 2020

MI now allows absentee voting for anyone, whereas you previously had to have a valid reason. The number of absentee ballots was much higher from 2016 to 2020. So, I'm not sure if the surge is correctly attributed entirely to enthusiasm. Increased voting access played a major part.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
31. Good point
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:44 AM
Mar 2020

All states should go to offering mail-in ballots as an option and push it hard. It's cheaper in the long run, less hassle for voters and makes it much easier for folks to participate in the democratic process.

Maybe that's one good thing that will come outta this virus bullshit since many states who have delayed their primaries are now being forced to go to it if they want their voice to be heard before the convention.

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MFM008

(19,816 posts)
21. Im still rooting
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 03:19 AM
Mar 2020

For C19 to solve the maggot issue for humanity.

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still_one

(92,219 posts)
29. This Poll is from March 16-20 released Thurs. For a Poll from March 17-26 released yesterday by
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:10 AM
Mar 2020

Baldwin Wallace University has Biden 47%, trump 42%

That poll is based on 997 RV while the Marketing Resource Group is based on 600 LV

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/michigan/

Here are some more latest polls which show Biden and trump within the MOE in Penn and Wisconsin

According to those polls Sanders loses to trump outside the MOE

That is why it is important to have the primaries resolved ASAP, so the focus can be against trump


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/


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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
33. The lead should have been much wider
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:11 AM
Mar 2020

I see the effect of Bernie's negative campaign of "Biden is demented", "Biden is a rapist" etc. spread through the "naive, gullible and radicalized" network on twitter.

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