Bernie Sanders is finally number 1!

[Galraedia]

Sen. Sanders has missed 61.3% of votes in the 116th Congress (2019-20). This makes him the 1st most absent member of the Senate.

Source: https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/S000033/votes-missed/116

[zonkers]

1. You and others must be pretty scared shitless of Bernie to keep posting smack about him!

Go Bernie. keep fighting.

[George II]

2. Why have you chosen Biden as your preferred candidate?

[zonkers]

8. I think he can unite this country. It doesn't stop me from being in Bernie's corner.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

23. Would that be the corner Bernie has painted himself into ?

[sheshe2]

25. +1

[zonkers]

44. self deleted (responded to wrong post)

[sheshe2]

45. Pretty sure you responded to the wrong poster.

I gave Haggis a +1 and no comment.

Thanks for the lecture. It was enlightening to say the least.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

73. Ohhhh, andto think I missed out on this opportunity to be lectured to . . . .

[sheshe2]

74. Hey Haggis.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

75. Hey, sheshe2

How are you holding up ?

I've got a terrible case of cabin-fever right now. Yesterday, I actually started . . . . cleaning !

Sweet Baby Jesus. Help get me out of here before I start biting people.

[sheshe2]

76. Yep.

Cabin fever. Yet 24/7 mom care keeps me busy. I get pretty cranky at times. However I have not bitten anyone. ....yet.



I tell ya, I would go nuts without DU.

[Cha]

48. Thank you!

[zonkers]

49. Irrelevant of your "gotcha" moment or whether or not that may or maynot be true, and I don't think

it is, your obvious quip cannot erase the values that Bernie stands for and the extent to which they resonate with so many. As much as you'd like to ignore his impact on the Democratic party and its shift to the left you can't. It's there forever. A bell has been rung that cannot be un rung and no one really gives a shit if you give him credit for it or not, especially not Bernie.

Though I am voting enthusiastically for Joe, his failure to do the hard work from the beginning of his campaign (i.e. raising funds, campaigning and opening offices all over etc.) is something I find troubling and hard to just sweep under the rug like you do. So go ahead, cover your ears. scream louder and wish it didn't happen but it totally happened. And it reveals a real flaw on Joe's part -- a callousness and a sense of entitlement that ought to trouble you. He rolled the dice with the future of our country at a perilous juncture when so much is at stake. It was very fucked up and definitely is not very Obama like. And whatever was at the root of it is still there and will likely resurface in some other, possibly unanticipated way. Trump might be a morally flawed person but he is in no way a flawed candidate. He is one very effective motherfucker in this regard. And I hope to God Joe is up to the task of shutting him down, because right now, he is all we got.

[sheshe2]

50. hmmm

Though I am voting enthusiastically for Joe, his failure to do the hard work from the beginning of his campaign (i.e. raising funds, campaigning and opening offices all over etc.) is something I find troubling and hard to just sweep under the rug like you do.

His failure to do the hard work? ie raising funds? Fact is money does not buy you votes. The message is what gets you the votes as well as the people you touch with said message. That includes the black vote that Bernie will never carry and can not win without them.

The victory means Biden won ten of the 15 contests on Super Tuesday, when roughly a third of Democratic delegates were up for grabs. Biden also won Virginia, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, Minnesota, Massachusetts, North Carolina, Oklahoma and Texas.
Live Super Tuesday results: Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders ...
www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/04/super-tuesday-results-joe-biden-be…

[zonkers]

58. Hey, pal. No one is saying Joe is not the presumptive nomineee! Why the dis-

connect? What don't you understand? I get that he is he popular choice. I just think the way he precariously winged it is a huge and telling flaw. Why did he do that? Why did he take that chance? I acknowledge that it worked out for him -- but he gambled with our future. It was fucked up.

Baseball analogy: I would much rather have my baseball team be the type that pragmatically manufactures runs on offense, instead of waiting till the bottom of the 9th and hoping that you hit a homerun. I like my leaders boring, methodical, wonky and steady -- like Merkel. like Obama. This is Joe's flaw. Can you comment on this point? Or do you just want to spew vitriol and obvious facts like so many others on this site, these days. You just want to just run off anyone who likes Biden and Bernie. Very Trumpian. What happened to the big democratic tent? Ha.

Joe did not do the work from the beginning. And it may very well bite Joe and us in the ass. And those of us who learn lessons from life, know what I am talking about.

[Hortensis]

62. Com'on :) Complaining that Biden choosing not to raise a bunch of

money and running a very lean campaign endangered our national security ( ) seems more than a bit of a stretch.

You know, if you really don't want him it's okay to just say so. Period, without this kind of thing and certainly no need to go into reasons that might not be acceptable here. That's your right, and would be more than made up for by your decision to vote for him in spite of whatever.

Btw, you may remember that Hillary was able to immediately, like overnight, raise $200 million from wealthy, involved Democrats when she became the nominee and discovered the DNC didn't have the money to put on the candidates' debates. Biden is every bit as well connected and prominent in the party and could have upped his donations if he had ever had to, but he never had to.

Instead, and this is beautiful , he planted Sanders (who'd been doing his own best to buy the election with more big money than the rest put together) an ideological facer by blowing up a whole battery of his favorite and most powerful lies about Democratic corruption.

Guessing that devastating assault on Sanders' deepest delusions (literally the foundation of his own identity) is probably causing him as much distress as having his lies lose power and watching Biden soar far past him, without money and without Republican and Russian assistance: on nothing but the power of what VP Biden offers the electorate.

[zonkers]

63. Frame it any way you want after the fact. Joe did not know he was going to soar. He gambled. It

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was risky. And it's a fucked up M.O whether or not you can admit it or not. If you can't. Fine. He played it fast and loose with our future. And that's fucked up, whether he came out on top or not. If no one wants to face that, fine. It's still a fact. And maybe if he would have had a ground game instead of winging it, he wouldl have sealed dthis deal a lot earlier. So, you can attack Bernie and the millions of little folks that gave him tens and twenties all you want. Joe is not the rock solid candidate you are trying to will him to. be.

[qwlauren35]

66. I actually don't understand your point.

BTW: I'm un-committed. I have reasons for the Bernie sign.

Back in November, anyone could have won. Not necessarily Biden. It wasn't definite. You seem to be saying that the one who raises the most money is supposed to win, and if you don't raise the most money, you don't deserve to win.

Not sure if you also said - the one who opens the most offices deserves to win.

To me, the one who gets the most votes deserves to win.

Now me personally, I don't like Bernie's personality, and I don't like Biden's conservative past. I agree with you that Bernie has pulled the party left and it has been a very good, positive, noteworthy accomplishment. I'm even okay with him staying in the race, although I know that it keeps the DNC from giving their money to Biden outright.

I think Biden supporters are so quick to point out that Biden is first, when they don't acknowledge that Bernie has about 30-40% of all Democrats voting for him. I think that's significant. We often talk about the importance of the black vote in the Democratic party. I think we also need to recognize the importance of the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Bernie voters in the Democratic party.

Now, I hope they hold their noses and vote for Biden. But I personally recognize and respect them and their preference. I wish they got more respect here on DU.

[Hortensis]

67. Oh, let's talk about BEFORE the fact then. Joe was 50 points ahead

nationally, and more, long before anyone knew if he'd run. The beginning of the primary races was paralyzed for months while we all waited.

The question of whether VP Biden would run sucked up all the media oxygen in the Democratic room, so that coverages of Sanders, for instance, all speculated about Biden and how Sanders would fare against the giant Democratic elephant. Same for all the other candidates and potential candidates, none of whom could make a significant decision until they knew whether they'd be running against Biden -- or not, and the same for the rest of the political world.

Btw, speaking of after the fact, I don't think much of this hard-wrung concern as your biggest problem with Biden at this point well over a year later. But that is definitely encouraging. Because we do agree that we need to be in good, strong position when the big pros on the right and overseas show us what they can produce out of nothing.

[zonkers]

70. Do I ever agree with you that we need to be in a strong position. And agree with

pretty much with everyting you say. Except for your take about Joe being ahead by fifty points. That lead only really existed theoretically in a flimsy, on paper way and not in a boots on the ground "real presence" way. As such, it was never real and tangible. He never really put forth a platform beyond "restoring decency" and "I rolled with Obama". And I still feel this was insuliting to the people and the process. Sure it was enough to get him the delegate lead. And I do hope Joe is up for the task as most every non- Trumper does.

Bernie gave me fits and totally lost me when he moronically double down on the whole "Cuba/Castro was a good guy" soundbite debacle thing. It just cemented his un-electability in my eyes, no matter how much more his agenda resonated with me than Biden's did.

I think Joe will beat Don despite the shenanigans and voter fraud that will ensue. It will be ugly. Trump and his minions are fighting for their lives.

[Hortensis]

72. So agree that polls of people who say they'd vote for

the only names they recognize far ahead are ridiculous.

For two years ahead of 2019 polls and media pieces on Dems 2020 puffed up Sanders as by far the most popular and promising candidate in America because he was the person who'd said he'd be running AND because enough people recognized his name with vague approval among others they didn't. Biden was the other recognized name, when it was included in the choices.

You know, it seems we really do agree on what we want but started with very different assumptions.

My starting point is that what "restoring decency" is shorthand for is overwhelmingly important! Nothing else even comes close. We can't survive much longer as a free people if we do not, which makes it incredibly more immediately imperative right now than wish-list items, such as universal healthcare. A modern society must have UC to be decent, but we didn't already make it happen decades ago because of decline in national decency under Republican domination.

And under Republican domination massive corruption has been embedded and we're perilously close to becoming a failed democracy that wouldn't make it happen. Way too many Americans are now as corrupted as the leaders they choose, from top down and bottom up, shockingly supporting anything their leader does. A world expert on nations that self destruct into vicious authoritarian states, when asked what people should look for said immediately and simply, "Watch out for mean people." Well, mean has become normal.

Obama's election and the midterms, though, still mercifully revealed there is a strong national desire for decency, to restore the old norms, restore stability and embrace needed advances. To do that, though, more people have to once again come to expect honesty and integrity from their public servants and to refuse to accept corruption and dishonorable behavior. And that, of course, is where our next national leader comes in.

When I wondered if Biden would run, what I wanted from him if he did was exactly what he subsequently ran on, what he calls "restoring the soul of America." He's not among the most aligned with my strong liberal views, and he is old and seems tired (he didn't want to run but felt obliged); but in the face of desperate need, I believed he had the stature, integrity and widespread trust and liking to carry off that role. There were others I thought had potential to develop into what we need, but they ran on to-do lists, instead of telling us we must decide this election who we want to be, and it didn't work out that way.

As for what in Biden doesn't reflect me, imo people vastly mistake how important, desirable or possible electing personally pleasing narrow ideological ranges in a president is. Solid liberal ideals, important goals whose time has come, integrity and competence -- ability to come through! -- are what matter and don't fuss the details. The legislative branch will have a whole lot more to say about those than the chief executive, and congress is constructed to broaden their product to somehow reflect the general will and needs of the people who send them.

Anyway, I think an honest, trustworthy president who will appoint hundreds of honest, dynamic, awesomely capable public servants (who will themselves do the same), elevate standards and expectations to where we need them, excite hope and confidence through real achievements, and show us once again what we should demand in those we empower, is exactly what we need to vote for at this critical point. And from that will come everything else we want. But first things first.

So, a different view.

[zonkers]

77. As I read your post, I am hunkered down in a tiny, furnished Manhattan sublet

doing laundry in the bathtub, rationing food I hope lasts another week of quarantine. I dread going to the market. I am also fantasizing that I might barter the 150 rolls of toilet paper just found in a closet, for some needed items but doubt it. Been here three months, one month beyond my expected tenancy and will probably be here a few more months at least. Fortunately, the unit is not in demand, the wifi is fast and there is direct tv. Though in the epicenter of the pandemic, I am thankful to have this sanctuary and that the sirens are wailing with less frequency than a few days ago. It has become a regular thing here at 7 PM for everyone to open their windows and let out a collective flash-mob cheer for all the front liners, the EMS workers, doctors, nurses. It's moving stuff. New Yorkers are good at this sort of thing To think this city endured 9/11 and now this. Wow. Anyway, I have no doubt that this situation is framing my take on things and understandably so.

Off the top of my head, your idea of restoring decency as a campaign platform is noble but it feels naive, too vague and too little for me to wholeheartedly support. I would love to feel good about putting all my chips on this evolved and high minded notion but I don't think I could. It feels too civil and vague in the face of the dark forces we face. When I ponder the extent of the damage done by his administration, both known and unknown and factor in the possibility of other currently unknown impacting variables along with the speed at which things generally move, today, it feels like the the only possible solution going forward, if one even exists -- to be proactive instead of reactive, is a radical and dynamic agenda. I think these motherfuckers need to be nailed the cross and destroyed. We need to be pricks and I just don't see that coming from a Biden Administration. We have to take our country back from the Russians, the Murdochs, the Trumps and Wall Street. They have packed the courts with conservative judges. It all just sucks And I don't think the radical change we need can happen incrementally as wil be the case with a Biden presidency.

As far as Bernie goes, he is not my guy but I defend him and his supporters whom I have a soft spot for. Anecdotally, have seen three friends of mine whom I never in a million years expected ever expected be politically engaged become just that. All because of Bernie. He resontes One is a construction worker. Another is a union electrician. Another is a teacher. Regular people.. They don't know each other. They have sent him money regularly, drips and drabs ( I think they still do) and it's just kind of amazing to watch this transformation. And yes, they will all vote for Biden but I am sure they not thrilled to. They always remind of of the Thoreau quote "Most men lead lives of quiet desperation".

[Hortensis]

78. Such a shame to have to hunker inside in Manhattan,

of all places. Wow. But a unique experience. "Fortunately the unit is not in demand."

I'm in an ancient mobile home bounded by freshwater marsh in Florida, our "winter home." We definitely chose it for the views. My husband strolls out in his bathrobe most mornings to fish before breakfast and Harry, our neighbor's cat, joins him. Kinda different.

As for putting all one's chips on a vague notion, no. There's nothing vague about the need to save our nation from RW authoritarian takeover or the shocking reality that large portions of he populace, including some on the left!, including too many young people!, would support that. The battle takes place in people's minds, and influencing those by taking dynamic action to restore confidence in democracy and hope for the future is a huge part of it. Projecting decency, not dynamism, is Biden's strong suit, but if we get the power in congress we must have for big action, it will happen. Our next president has a huge job with a long list of things that must be gotten to and little time to do it.

Btw, think what it means that in 2015, while considering a run then, Biden wanted iconoclastic Elizabeth Warren to be his "assistant" president as he was for Obama. That choice completely contradicts the narrative the MSM push. Who are all the people Biden has on his lists this time and has already been talking with?

Of course an excited energy that lifted the nation whenever he walked on a stage would be helpful right now, but for most people belief has to develop over time. FDR was not an exciting candidate at first ("He is a pleasant man who, without any important qualifications for the office, would very much like to be president." Walter Lipman's take) and owed his 1932 win above all to Republican disasters during Hoover. In fact, his campaign mainly tried not to make any of the mistakes Hoover badly needed and went overboard hiding his disability. Roosevelt already had the "New Deal" slogan whomped up but gave only vague clues to what that was supposed to mean, careful not to provide any interesting detail to attack. And he came across as so bland and good natured that many believed he really didn't have the right stuff. Neither of us would have been impressed, and I would have been offended by his background, the most exciting (for some others) thing about him.

It's not that Biden's supposed to be FDR, but that Franklin Roosevelt wasn't FDR either. He was the reassuring face of the very redoubtable team of New Dealers he put together and turned loose, PLUS Democratic majorities in both houses of congress over his entire administration--who accomplished much of what he is credited with. FDR was a big team, fronted by him and his fireside chats.

Anyway, at one time I hoped one of our experienced governors would also catch fire, but you work with what you have, and watching this progress I think we caught a break we badly need with Biden. We now know that in the face of continual attacks his broad support is real, and there's reason for that. He brings something the nation needs and wants, something none of the other candidates succeeded in getting across The Great Wall of Media, although my own notion is that Warren in an extremely different style succeeded more than the others. But she's a woman.

Have a good, comfy day.

[mcar]

3. ...

[Rebl2]

4. Please change

your vote preference. You obviously don’t like Biden.

[Cha]

5. Edit.. sorry!

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[zonkers]

9. Please mind your own business. or not. Why does it bother you so much?

(on edit). Just the fact that it does bother you and other so much, reveals a heck of a lot. Why are you so concerned?

[BlueIdaho]

15. Wolf in sheep's clothing.

Seeing a lot of this shit.

[Rilgin]

31. I see, its your pre requisite for liking Joe is to hate Bernie.

Some of us like both and really do not like the constant drumbeat from the swarm who seem to get up every day just to be able to echo each other on how much they dislike Bernie and justify it on the fact that some other people who they do not know who apparently support Bernie are doing on other sites exactly what the swarm does here against Bernie.

Here a guy says he likes Joe Biden and Bernie and you insist that he cant. That to like Joe Biden must mean you have to join the club hatred here.

[BlueIdaho]

34. Your mind reading act needs work.

[Rilgin]

35. Not mind reading. Just read your conclusion that he is a wolf in sheep clothing.

And the only thing he has said is he supports Joe but also supports Bernie. But that really is not allowed by the people here who want everyone on the planet to share their Bernie hate. Here is a hint, there are more people who like both Joe and Bernie than the ones who just like one.

[Cha]

47. Sorry.. I thought you were posting to the OP.

That's why I ask you what you were talking about. Darn eyes!

[zackymilly]

56. I blocked him like the other Bernie Bros. More peaceful here now. n/t

[yardwork]

27. How is it talking smack to point out a voting record?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

39. 100%!!

Bernie/Elizabeth 2020!!
They're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[Cha]

46. BS Missing 61.3% of the Votes is talking "smack"? BS LOST

and it took him 4x the $$$$ to do it than Joe Biden to WIN.

[treestar]

60. Scared shitless of what?

That he will win the D nomination?

[Rollin]

6. Bernie Sanders is finally number 1

Why are so many posting on Democratic Underground so negative towards Bernie ? I just read the Democratic Terms of service and there`s supposed to be no negative attacks against anyone running for President.

[George II]

11. I suggest you do that again.

[Cha]

12. So you agree BS shouldn't have missed so many votes?

[George II]

14. .

[CaptYossarian]

16. I may be wrong, but DUers here likely feel he isn't qualified for

such protection because he won't officially join the Dem Party and uses it as a crutch for his aspirations.

[calimary]

19. Welcome to DU, Rollin.

Well, for some of us (definitely speaking for myself here), it's a matter of still nursing wounds from what happened in 2016. Those wounds remain pretty deep. ESPECIALLY when we think what could have been - watching history being made, being led by the first woman president - WHO GOT THE MOST VOTES!!!!!!

It's a difficult one to get over. And I fully admit that getting over it, in my case, is on me. It's my job, and my responsibility. I realize that. And I STILL have a hard time with how much Hillary had to deal with, through which Bernie was, in my view, mostly unhelpful, dragging out the inevitable WAY after its legitimate sell-by date, leading his poor hapless fans to hope in vain that somewhere, somehow, sometime that summer, there'd magically be loads of additional votes that would put him at or near the top by convention time. Anybody who was willing to look at the facts saw that there was no reason to hold out. He came around after the convention ended, and DID go out and campaign, but way too late in the game. And look what we wound up with! And she had to deal with Agent Orange, on top of all THAT.

And four years later, as we fight through another Presidential election year, that bitter taste comes back. It's awfully hard not stumbling into thinking what might have been.

I think I'll probably have to keep working on that one for the rest of my life. It REALLY hurt. It STILL hurts.

I can't/shouldn't/won't speak for anyone else here. Just myself - guilty as charged. And I HAVE to get over it at some point. I've often posted about making head-over-heart decisions, which is kind of a thing with me. Nursing all this particular stuff is my heart. And at the same time, my head is in there, yelling at me to stop being a schmuck and get over it.

And I'm trying to. I'm working on it.

[trc]

32. Apropos of nothing, but Rollin appears to have been on DU for 10 years...

Just a comment, nothing more.

[George II]

33. Yes, 10 years and less than one post per year. Interesting.

[calimary]

68. I only go by post count. In this case it was nine posts.

Made kind of a random rule for myself, awhile back, that if somebody had 100-ish posts or less, I could assume they're probably new. That does seem to prove out many times. Most of the time. But not all. I don't always have time to go look at the membership date of every poster with low post count. That's my fault.

[Rilgin]

37. Happy to see introspection about feelings towards others

There are very few posts that express the awareness of self that your post has while also acknowledging anger and that it is within you. I understand perfectly although coming from the other side of the political divide. I appreciate that you have identified aspects that got you worked up in 2016. 2016 did the same for me. In your case, you seem to have identified strongly with Hillary and felt she went though hell. In my case, it was constantly being called a member of a cult, a sexist and a unicorn lover which continues in this current cycle because I supported Bernie then. I have the same urges to strike out at candidates that oppose the one I prefer. I work on controlling my anger daily. Not very successfully although in this campaign season, I have tried to not attack any democratic candidate with some success. Not because it does anything in reality but because it helps me get over my anger.

It also caused me to support Elizabeth Warren this primary because I recognized that part of the democratic party coalition hates Bernie. I think for invalid reasons but its there. There are things that I don't like and things I worry about but have kept such concerns about other candidates to myself. My constant failure seems to be throwing myself against a brick wall defending Bernie rather than ignoring the attacks. Anyhow, I do appreciate the thoughts you put into your post.

[The Magistrate]

65. The Problem, Sir, Is The Attacks On Mrs. Clinton Were Trumped Up Lies

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Echoing them from the left only aided the right wing, gave the fabricated charges a bipartisan veneer, which the press, with its ludicrous idea of what constittes balanced coverage, ate up like candy.

On the other hand, 'Bernie' and his followers were just described accurately. The 'Bernie' campaign was fueled by misogyny, did and does show many of the lineaments of a personality cult, and was and is so loosely connected to political reality that to say "Bernie' and his followers chase unicorns is certainly good enough to be going on for agitprop work. It is at least a whimsical and lighthearted way of getting the point across. Trust me, there are many harsher ways, and crueler ways, that legitimate point can be made....





"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[calimary]

69. .

[MontanaMama]

28. I'd go over the TOS again friend.

And enjoy your stay.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

40. Seriously... imagine this had been said about any other Democratic nominee!!

Bernie/Elizabeth 2020!!
They're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[Tarheel_Dem]

41. I see you still don't know the difference between a "nominee" and a "candidate". That's just...

inexcusable at this point. As you well know, thanks to Sanders, there is no "nominee" yet.

[ehrnst]

82. +1000

[llashram]

59. no

never. Not before, not now, not ever

[ehrnst]

81. Nominee? That doesn't happen until one gets the delegates needed....

[Thekaspervote]

42. Are you aware of the negative ads, FB and twitter posts bernie keeps posting about Biden?

It’s despicable and cut throat. I really can’t blame anyone for digging in!

[Happy Hoosier]

71. Are you suggesting the data is incorrect?

'Cause if it's not, what would be your basis for complaint. That it makes Sen. Sanders look bad that he missed so many votes? I agree that it does, but as the old saying goes, truth is a defense against libel.

[George II]

7. To be specific, here are the statistics:

In 2019 there were 428 votes, Sanders missed 270 of them (63%). He missed the last 231 votes over SIX months.
In 2020 there have been 80 votes, Sanders missed 41 of them (51%), what saved his record was the impeachment trial, otherwise it would have been much worse.

From late June 2019 through early January 2020, he missed almost 250 consecutive votes. He wasn't seen on the floor of the Senate for more than half a year, yet he still got his $174,000 annual salary.

Who complains about economic inequality?

[Rollin]

10. Bernie Sanders is finally number 1

Bernie didn`t vote on these issues because he didn`t agree with the proposals . Rather than vote no he abstained from voting.

[George II]

13. He didn't vote on all those "issues" because he wasn't in Washington at the time....

He didn't "abstain", he didn't vote.

In case you were wondering, Senators get paid for representing their constituents and voting for or against bills or nominations that do the bidding of them.

Votes in the Senate aren't "issues".

[NurseJackie]

17. ❌ False! Wrong! ❎

Do not pass GO ... Do not collect $200

[George II]

18. Interesting how little some know about the workings of the Senate.

[NurseJackie]

21. Civics should be taught in American schools again.

[sheshe2]

51. Or their candidate. nt

[sheshe2]

26. Nope.

He was not in Washington. He did not abstain, he was not there.

[MontanaMama]

29. Politics is hard.

You have to vote no sometimes when you “don’t agree with a proposal”. Or, you skip school...Bernie skips school A LOT.

[sheshe2]

52. THIS

[The Magistrate]

36. A Man With Principles, Sir, Would Vote 'No' If He was Opposed

"From Bernie’s perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they don’t want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

[ehrnst]

80. When one wants to make a statement, one doesn't skip voting, one votes "present."

or votes against the bill, as Liz Warren did on the first vote on the Covid-19 stimulus.

One does not simply not show up.

You're welcome.

[yaesu]

20. pffft

at least he didn't vote for the Iraq war & nor the disastrous 2005 bankruptcy bill.

[George II]

30. What's your point?

[Thekaspervote]

43. No, but he did vote for appropriations for that war. Got anything else?

[sheshe2]

53. He voted against the Brady Bill x 2.

[ehrnst]

64. x5 actually...

[ehrnst]

61. Bernie pushed Sierra Blanca, made $$ off it, and voted for Iraq military intervention twice...

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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/16/1516075/-Sanders-are-still-profiting-from-Sierra-Blanca-nuclear-waste-dump-per-their-2014-tax-return


In 1998 Sanders voted in favor of the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, which said: "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."

Later that same year, Sanders also backed a resolution that stated: "Congress reaffirms that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."


Sanders also voted for the 2001 Authorization Unilateral Military Force Against Terrorists (AUMF), which pretty much allowed Bush to wage war wherever he wanted.

Authorization for Use of Military Force - Authorizes the President to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons.

States that this Act is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of the War Powers Resolution.

[dlk]

24. Priorities...

[thucythucy]

38. I can't think of a single job i've ever held

that I would have kept if I didn't show up close to two thirds of the times I was expected to be there.

Must be nice to have a job with a six figure salary that allows you to skip so much work.

[amuse bouche]

54. Biden wasn't my first choice but I don't get Sanders at all

[Mike Nelson]

55. Well...

... there are Congresspeople like this... they don't vote when their vote won't make any difference. For example, the bail-out bills were going to pass, with or without some votes. Also, Bernie may be resting more (like Biden); he is an older person and has had a heart attack recently. I'd attend to my job, and vote, but each Senator can decide for themselves and have their voters decide if their approach is correct.

[NurseJackie]

57. ...

[Scurrilous]

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