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Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:28 AM

 

The Rise and Fall of Bernie Sanders: A Theory

Ari Rabin-Havt, a burly, bearded political operative, had been doing events with his boss for three years, since his boss was just 75 years old. But Bernie Sanders had never before asked for a chair. Sanders was as tired as Rabin-Havt had ever seen him, sitting in front of a banner bearing his name at a private fundraiser in a Middle Eastern restaurant in Las Vegas. Rabin-Havt cut the event short. He was a little alarmed, but political campaigns are exhausting, and it had been a long day, beginning early in Eastern Standard Time.

Jesse Cornett, the body man, was with them ó his first day on the job. A body man is literally someone who takes care of the needs of the corpus of an important and busy person. It was his job to know how the candidateís body was faring, but it was not his job to push.

In the car, Rabin-Havt asked if Sanders was okay. Sure, Sanders said. Heíd just go to the hotel and lie down. He had a big day tomorrow. Then Rabin-Havt asked about dinner. Sanders said he was not hungry. He hadnít eaten for hours and hours. Sanders should have been hungry. It could have been nothing, but two alarm bells had just rung for Rabin-Havt, and here came the third: Sanders said he was feeling a tightness in his chest.

Sometimes in high-pressure jobs, at the risk of irritating someone who is paying your salary, you have to substitute your judgment for theirs. Cornett and Rabin-Havt said it at the same time: They should go to an urgent-care clinic. And they did.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2020/03/23/demise-bernie-sanders-wasnt-only-about-ideology-or-policy-it-was-also-about-candidate-himself/
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Reply The Rise and Fall of Bernie Sanders: A Theory (Original post)
Zorro Mar 29 OP
zonkers Mar 29 #1
Demsrule86 Mar 30 #21
MineralMan Mar 29 #2
George II Mar 29 #5
MineralMan Mar 29 #8
Celerity Mar 30 #22
Politicub Mar 29 #3
Cha Mar 29 #17
The Magistrate Mar 29 #4
George II Mar 29 #6
StarfishSaver Mar 29 #7
Indykatie Mar 29 #10
msongs Mar 29 #11
The Magistrate Mar 29 #13
FM123 Mar 29 #9
yaesu Mar 29 #12
Happy Hoosier Mar 29 #14
Cha Mar 29 #18
Happy Hoosier Mar 29 #15
LizBeth Mar 29 #16
BlueIdaho Mar 29 #19
LizBeth Mar 29 #20

Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:44 AM

1. pay to view firewall. Can't. Won't.

 

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Response to zonkers (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:33 AM

21. I paid because we need our journalist...we need newspapers...pretty cheap.

 

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:12 PM

2. Well, I'd love to read that, but I don't read paywall sites.

 

Too bad, too. Right now, those paywalls should be down.
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Response to MineralMan (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:22 PM

5. If you're using Chrome, open the link in an incognito window.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:25 PM

8. It's a matter of principle for me, really.

 

I know how to get past WaPo's paywall. I just don't do it, in protest.
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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:14 PM

3. Here's my abbreviated take

 

1. He tried
2. He failed
3. Hasnít entered acceptance phase
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Response to Politicub (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:58 PM

17. And, never will.. thanks, Politicub

 

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:17 PM

4. Sanders' Great Mistake, Sir

 

Was to view his voting strength in 2016 as endorsement of him and his policies. It was not.

He drew many votes from 'working class whites' who have a set against 'uppity broads', and who had been deluged with a right wing campaign of hate for Mrs. Clinton of a quarter-century's duration. 'Bernie' reaped some of the fruits of this aggravated misogyny, and took it for a demonstration 'working class whites' would support 'revolutionary' action in a left direction, if only they were properly approached, by a charismatic leader such as 'Bernie' himself. This has been his life-long dream, and while it is possible to sympathize on that account with his self-deception, it was a titanic error that did real harm to the people and our country. This year, these people are nowhere for 'Bernie', because by and large they voted against his opponent, not for him.

'Bernie' did indeed catch the fancy of youth in 2016. He says exactly the sort of things a dorm-room bullshitter, or any angry young man might say, and since these noises emerge from a lined face beneath a head of grey hair, 'Bernie' lets such young people believe their views are the distilled wisdom of age, which is very flattering for an angry young fellow. This year, 'Bernie' has lost his novelty. He is no longer the current cool thing, not a tune of the day, but something out of a 'golden oldies' segment. Young people are not turning out for him. The numbers of young people voting in the primary has declined, while the number of older voters has increased markedly. These people more ofte that not actively detest 'Bernie'.

By going once too often to the well, 'Bernie' has revealed himself as having failed in his object of promoting a 'revolutionary' turn to the left. Results of the campaign 'Bernie' has pressed this year reveal that even in 2016, what actually was going on was very different from what 'Bernie' imagined it was. One suspects the last person on the continent to realize this will be 'Bernie' Sanders....





"From Bernieís perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they donít want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:23 PM

6. From what we've seen since February, his "support" now is about half that of 2016.

 

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:23 PM

7. Yes.

 

You are so eloquent.

Thank you!
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 01:15 PM

10. Bernie Knew He'd Have Less Support in 2020 but He Planned to Win in a Crowded Field and Would Have

 

had Amy and Pete not dropped out so soon. He had a 30% strategy to get him to the convention with more delegates than the other 4 or so candidates. He'd then dare the Dems to give the nomination to anyone but the person with the most delegates who he thought would be him. Lucky for us unplanned sh*t happens in politics just like in life.
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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 02:01 PM

11. bernie is pushing ideas I had 40 yrs ago lol nt

 

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Response to msongs (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:16 PM

13. When People Praise Him For Consistecy, Ma'am, And Sticking To His Principles

 

What they really mean is that he hasn't learned a thing in half a century, and is perfectly happy about it.





"From Bernieís perspective, dropping out of a race once you have no chance of winning is peculiar behavior that can only be explained by the work of a hidden hand. For most politicians, though, it is actually standard operating procedure. Only Sanders seems to think the normal thing to do once voters have made clear they donít want to nominate you is to continue campaigning anyway."





"When things are not called by their right names, what is said cannot make sense. When what is said does not make sense, what is planned cannot succeed. When plans do not succeed, people become uneasy. When people are uneasy, punishments do not fit crimes. When punishments do not fit crimes, people cannot know where to put hand or foot."
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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 12:25 PM

9. Sometimes you can go through the paywall.

 

Click on link then immediately press esc key. Takes a few tries, but sometimes works.
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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 02:23 PM

12. There is no fall, he is a rising star. nt

 

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Response to yaesu (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:20 PM

14. O RLY?

 

To where? Dude is old. This was it. He's done. And he ends his career throwing a tantrum rather than as statesman. Kinda sad.
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Response to yaesu (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:04 PM

18. BS overwhelmingly Lost & he Spent 4x the $$$ to do it

 

than Joe Biden did to WIN.
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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:23 PM

15. The long and short of it is...

 

He had a pretty hard ceiling in the party of somewhere in the 30's, and he never seriously tried to expand his base. His policy intransigence, coupled with his lack of people skills killed him. He appealed to a few "true believers." The rest of us saw through him.
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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 03:54 PM

16. Since his own people admit he has failed, why won't he get out of race, behind Biden, except for ego

 

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #16)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:17 PM

19. Money?

 

Running for President can be a real cash cow.
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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #19)

Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:55 PM

20. Looking to get that fourth or fifth house. Look at his history with money, he never did well

 

in his personal financial life.
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