Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumDUers have made Mayor Pete the #2 overall choice
Just 1% behind Kamala Harris.
It's pretty tight among the top four candidates, but it sure is promising to see Pete Buttigieg among them. He's come from out of nowhere and is now turning heads everywhere.
Long way to go, but the debates can't come soon enough!
Pete for America!
https://peteforamerica.com/meet-pete/
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueDawn
(892 posts)You know, I watched him on Rachel's show last night and I thought he was very impressive.
I am thinking of switching.
Like you, I look forward to the debates!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wysimdnwyg
(2,231 posts)But I've definitely moved him up my list. That was a great interview, and it syncs up with every other time I've seen him speak. He's very smart and has some great ideas. The debates should be a load of fun (as long as they can avoid bashing each other).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatrickforO
(14,571 posts)"I might be the young guy in this conversation but my experience qualifies me for a seat at the table."
I like him better every time I hear him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(15,643 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DavidDvorkin
(19,475 posts)There it's Sanders as #1, then Pete, then Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)Good money to be made on Sanders No then. I might have to re-open my account there!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DavidDvorkin
(19,475 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Im more impressed every day.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)Who can win in November 2020? I'm not looking for someone I like. I'm looking for someone who can beat trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Dough
(17,303 posts)What does Trump have to knock him on?
1) He's inexperienced. Well, guess what? Donald Trump never held political office in his life before becoming POTUS. So that argument will go nowhere.
Pete has military experience. Donny just dreams of it (while having dodged it many times).
Pete has run a city of 100,000 very successfully. Donny has bankrupted several companies and ran a bogus "university."
Pete is a Rhodes scholar. Donny won't allow his marks to be released from kindergarten through Wharton University.
Pete speaks seven languages. Donny can barely manage one.
Pete plays guitar and classical piano. Donny probably plays with himself (no chance Melania goes anywhere near that anymore).
2) They can go for the "he's gay" strategy. Good luck with that in 2019. The crudest among their base may fall in line, but most people won't go for it today.
I like Pete Buttigieg's chances very much. And he won't be 81 years old by the end of his first term!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,333 posts)English, Norwegian, French, Spanish, Italian, Maltese, Arabic, and Dari.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Dough
(17,303 posts)All the more reason to admire him!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
FreeState
(10,572 posts)Most speakers of Norwegian can understand and read Swedish and Danish (they are very similar - same root language). He probably has some understanding of Portuguese as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,333 posts)terms of reading and especially speaking. Also I agree on the Portuguese.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FreeState
(10,572 posts)Danish is easier to read for me, I understand spoken Swedish better than spoken Danish. I'm not a native though (spoken it for 28 years), so this is just my experience.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)All of them have it, and if the baggage isnt obvious the media will usually make sure it is at some point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Dough
(17,303 posts)I'd be curious to hear what issues of substance will be held against him. And tell me how it would be a greater disadvantage than the political baggage the other contenders are carrying.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Mr. Evil
(2,841 posts)it won't take the evangelicals long before they point out that the first 'First Husband' of the White House won't be because he's married to a woman. They'll eventually make their play but, I believe it won't have much of an effect except only to their most hard-core followers.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CTyankee
(63,911 posts)If we Dems all surged to the polls, we would win. If we sit home and "wish" we had Pete or any other Dem we will lose again in 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calimary
(81,222 posts)The ones we need often seem to be the same ones who get discouraged too easily and stay home.
If only we could get all our voters out to vote, wed win every election! Simply because there are more of us. I wish we were able to use that potential power for real! WHENEVER it comes time to vote. Make our bigger numbers work for us - and for all of America.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)I you excite them, they will come.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Dough
(17,303 posts)And I'm willing to live with that. Turn the other cheek. Fuck 'em!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)all people have something in their past that they might not be proud of. The question is how one handles it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Wish it were an OP so I could rec.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)And 86 at end of their 2nd term!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,333 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Perseus
(4,341 posts)And about the gay thing...first, he is very comfortable with who and what he is, second, almost every month (I am being generous here) we find out about a republican who is a closeted gay, or practicing extra-marital exercises, they are corrupt as hell, etc., etc.
I believe Buttigieg with his superior skills of the language, and I am not even mentioning the other languages he speaks, will crash them when they dare to criticize him for being gay.
This is not about sexual preferences, with how immoral the buffoon is, I would not put it past him to have done worst things, this is about putting the best person in office, to place the person who can rewind the damage that this administration is doing to the country, whether is Harris, or Buttigieg, or any other Democrat, we need to find the best candidate, and right now, I am personally very impressed with Buttigieg.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Dough
(17,303 posts)We are of like minds.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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KPN
(15,643 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CaptainTruth
(6,589 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Dough
(17,303 posts)from CaptainTruth!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
calimary
(81,222 posts)A very appealing candidate, I must say!
Hes my second choice, after Jay Inslee. But he does include the climate crisis in his priorities list. And for me, thats CRITICALLY important. Kinda starts and ends there, for me, at this point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Dough
(17,303 posts)and we won't stop until we have calimary filling a seat on the Pete Buttigieg Express!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
calimary
(81,222 posts)Wont give up on Inslee yet, but much to my regret, hes not catching fire. Mayor Pete just might be doing exactly that. And he does talk climate crisis - which ANY candidate will have to do if he or she hopes to get my attention.
I WILL vote for WHOEVER our nominee is. Regardless of my personal preference. Yep. Even Bernie. Who I hope is NOT our nominee. But if thats how it turns out, so be it. If hes our choice, then Im there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Grendam
(38 posts)We still dont know enough about Buttigieg (or his policies) to know how all the attacks will come down, but I definitely can see many possible avenues. Some of those positives can easily be turned into negatives (e.g., speaking foreign languages as smarter than you, elite snob, aloof, arrogant, catering to foreigners).
Ive already seen the Right showing comparisons of his New Yorker cover with the movie poster of the 40-Year-Old-Virgin. Fallon had a skit last night poking fun of his youth as being from his hit series, The Boy Who Became Mayor only on Disney Channel. Its not a stretch that he could get caricatured as some Dothraki-speaking, avocado-toast-loving goober.
Its important to know how well he can take a punch. Can he punch back? Does Trump paint him as a weenie if he decides to take the high road and not get in the mud?
No one should forget how the GOP swift-boated John Kerry. There doesnt have to be anything true or fair about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)The comment from Pete about when he will be the same age as the current occupant of the White House made it clear that this could well be about "passing the torch", as what happened when JFK took over after Eisenhower.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
babylonsister
(171,057 posts)Meanwhile, I will focus on Mayor Pete and other candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)He knows exactly where he wants to go and how to get there. I don't think there is another candidate who shows his level of strategic thinking, except possibly Harris.
And he knows how to handle media. People think the media likes him because he is a shiny new object. Not true. He's aggressively pursuing interviews and acing them. When you do that, everyone wants to talk to you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(15,643 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
J_William_Ryan
(1,753 posts)And that may or mat not be Pete.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Rainbow Droid
(722 posts)Because surely that had nothing to do with it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Perseus
(4,341 posts)Has done more than many "manly men", he fought for his country and did not claim "bone spurs", he has political experience, and he is alarmingly well spoken and smart, he also seems to have a clear plan.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cstanleytech
(26,286 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cstanleytech
(26,286 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,333 posts)If Pete were a 2 term VP and then a 2 term POTUS, he would only turn 55 on his last full day in office (January 19, 2037). That's younger than Kamala Harris would be the day she was first sworn in on January 20, 2020, lolol. 31 and 32 years younger, respectively, than Biden or Sanders would be on their last day of a two term Presidency, 23 years younger than the monster on his last day if (dog forbid) he won re-election.
Buttigieg would have a shot at breaking Carter's record for longest post presidency and that is with 12 more years in office (16 years of VP and then POTUS versus Carter's 4).
Crazy numbers, lolol
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Recursion
(56,582 posts)A combination of those two would be quite powerful.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BannonsLiver
(16,370 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
crazytown
(7,277 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Auggie
(31,167 posts)I remember what a breath of fresh air Carter was on the campaign trail.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,516 posts)I went to his website. Nicely done, a lot about him personally. But there were no details about the issues we face as a nation, much less practical ways as to how he would solve them. Some large type posts about his beliefs and how we need a new generation of leaders. Where does he stand on the issues?
By contrast here is Warren's stands, and actual accomplishments on key issues like economic inequality (with embedded links to articles and other information):
https://elizabethwarren.com/issues/
Right now it seems to be a candidacy based on personality. He is impressive in many ways but does that mean we want someone who has only been mayor of a small city and has never run even on a statewide level to be our nominee? In 2020 democracy in America could very well be at stake. We need to make a sober choice to take on the devil. Pete may be it, but right now I don't see it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wildflower
(3,196 posts)"What Will Elizabeth Warren Do?" Direct and the essence of what voters want to know.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Bradshaw3
(7,516 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
duforsure
(11,885 posts)While the puppet in the White House now has the IQ of a potato, and is still struggling with the English language.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,333 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue Owl
(50,355 posts)But I also love Kamala too -- wish there were some way they could BOTH be president (or one as VP)!
No matter who wins the primary, I will be voting for them...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Obviously the presidency is less than a million-to-one shot, but here's hoping this dude can find a nice, long term in the senate...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Chakaconcarne
(2,446 posts)and the imminent, nasty rhetoric from the right....
They will look real bad if they go after a fellow person of faith.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)I will not commit yet. My motto: anyone who will deliver us from evil.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I think either of them would be an outstanding nominee who will beat Trump like a drum.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Dough
(17,303 posts)Pete Fleet. That's great, by the way!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided