LA Times Poll: March 15 to April 15: Biden leads Sanders by 11 Points

[louis c]

Biden 27
Sanders 16
Harris 7
O'Rourke 7
Warrern 4
Booker
Hickenlopper 2
Buttigieg 2

All the rest 1 or less

Trump approval at 34

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qM_Y-62GrLiy8Yiu0mvTdJHBI97vM-Ud/view

[TexasTowelie]

1. They ended up being one of the most accurate polls in 2016.

The large sample size gives it some credibility.

[DownriverDem]

11. All that matters

is that the Dems have a candidate that can beat trump. They can't be too far left either.

[artislife]

2. The big news is how low the local candidate is doing

I wonder if Mayer Pete will do up in the next one. If not, then I will be completely convinced that however things look on this board, it has very little to do with average voters.

[Decoy of Fenris]

5. D.U. has always been out of touch with "Average" voters, like it or not.

Those of us here tend to follow politics a good deal more closely than the average joe sitting at the counter in a diner. Note, for instance, the disconnect between Harris here at 12% and Harris in the real world polling rarely higher than 7-8%, even in the south, and losing out to Sanders routinely (but not always) among black voters, though DUers vehemently argue otherwise. The same case can be made against Sanders with young people, and Biden with old people. The formula doesn't really change; DU is not representative of the world at large.

The same happened here in 2016, and to an extent in 2018, and in 2012/14 before that. It's a tale as old as DU itself. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's easy to get drawn into the echo chamber here and assume that views presented are dominant or even prevalent in the real world. The truth being, the average day-to-day voter just doesn't give a shit about whatever the daily outrage de-jure is on D.U.

[Thekaspervote]

7. All very good points. Althou I have enjoyed the DU polling these are the facts

Plus, the dotard poll looks much more accurate

[Sugarcoated]

39. Which poll is that?

[DownriverDem]

12. Many of us

want Biden because he can beat trump. trump needs Pennsylvania. Even though Biden is living in Delaware, Pennsylvania is the state where he was born and raised and he can win it. Biden has a close relationship with blue collar workers who know trump hurt them. He won't take any of trumps crap. I really think Biden running with a strong progressive Dem woman (Harris) would be an excellent ticket.

[Tiggeroshii]

3. one problem

biden is still not running and the clock is ticking.

[louis c]

4. Next Week.

[Tiggeroshii]

6. if not next week i have a feeling he wont at all

[louis c]

8. After the Barr release and after Easter. I think a week from today or a week from tomorrow...

...but, we'll see

[Decoy of Fenris]

10. I hope you're right. Biden's got momentum fresh off that touching scandal and the lead ATM.

The longer he waits, IMO, the longer voters have time to find other options and run with them. Not necessarily a bad thing, but I don't see how waiting longer will improve his chances.

[louis c]

18. That's cute, calling those non-sexual encounters "scandals"...

...but I would more expect that from Trump.

What does ATM stand for in your snarky post?

[Decoy of Fenris]

19. ATM is "At the Moment".

Easy, d'Artagnan, easy. I'm on Biden's side, the whole thing was much ado about nothing. Sexual or non-sexual, there was a large public dialogue and ostensibly-sourced outrage regarding Biden's actions so I class it as "Scandalous" since it fits the definition. Also "Kerfluffle" wouldn't fit in the subject line.

[louis c]

24. It's not a scandal.

[Decoy of Fenris]

26. Okay, then it isn't a scandal. I'll keep it at "kerfluffle" or "bullshit".

No need to be so defensive on me, mate. I've been 100% with Biden since this whole thing got started. It was all nonsense from the start.

[R B Garr]

29. Actually the whoie timing of the "scandal" was to avoid

talking about Sanders scandal with the harassment charges during his 2016 campaign. It was a what-about-Biden switcheroo. There are quotes from Lucy Flores that say that was her motive for coming forward after 5 years.

[DownriverDem]

13. Oh Biden will

run. We really want to win. Far left will not win. Pelosi's right the country is not far left.

[Thekaspervote]

16. 1000+

[Tiggeroshii]

17. Huh.

Definition of Inanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results, no?

[Thekaspervote]

21. Bernie would fall into your category more so than joe

[Tiggeroshii]

28. Last time we nominated a candidate as close to the left as Bernie, America wouldn't stop re electing

him. Since FDR, we haven't quite done it again. Bernie -or anybody as close to the left as him, haven't been nominated. Many moderates however, have.

[Renew Deal]

30. He may run, but he won't win

The country is moving forward, not backward.

[Cha]

31. We would be moving Forward with Joe

Biden. Any actual Democrat will most certainly move our country, and the world Forward after the anti-Christ.

[Demsrule86]

41. We won't move forward if we don't beat Trump. I believe

Biden is the only candidate who can beat Trump.

[Demsrule86]

34. No it is not. He will be in next week and will win the nomination.

[Tiggeroshii]

35. Cool!

Best of luck to your guy!

[Demsrule86]

40. You too.

[sandensea]

9. Best of all: 'Trump approval at 34'

While he's not my first choice, this much I know: if Joe runs, Joe wins.

The nomination for starters, and then of course a well deserved ass-kicking for Manchurian Cheeto.

[DownriverDem]

14. Needs a woman

running mate too.

[sandensea]

23. +1

And I think we've got just the woman for the job...

[FloridaBlues]

20. Agree 34% approval not good for Orange agent that caught my eye too!

[sandensea]

25. Definitely helps pop the "his approval's still in the 40s" balloon

Have you heard that one from your GOP acquaintances? I think it's become their new talking point.

Now these are the same people that, when Obama's approval lingered in the 40s for any length of time, they'd guffaw at "how unpopular he is."

[Tiggeroshii]

36. Oooo. nice observation!

I like it

[sandensea]

37. Why, thank you.

Personally, I'd prefer a more activist candidate like Liz Warren or Bernie.

But there's no denying Joe has the Big 'Mo.

[Tiggeroshii]

38. Welcome!

I most defInitely agree on all points!

[BlueFlorida]

15. K&R nt

[Scurrilous]

22. Boink.

[Cha]

32. I want the actual Democrat who

can beat trump.

[Tarheel_Dem]

33. K&R