Buttigieg, Fox News in talks on town hall

[mobeau69]

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/439088-buttigieg-fox-news-in-talks-on-town-hall

Go for it Pete. Nothing like free tv. And kick trump's ass while you're at it.

[elleng]

1. GREAT!

Nothing like BRAINS!

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. This is a smart move on his part.

[msongs]

4. will they let him hand pick a selected audience or stick him w/a fox one? nt

[FakeNoose]

13. Consider that he comes from Indiana

... so he's surrounded by rednecks most of the time. I'm sure most of them are MAGAts too. South Bend is on the liberal side because it's a college town. I lived there many years ago when I went to school at Notre Dame & Saint Mary's. But the state - on the whole - is deep red.

When I saw him on Rachel last night, something occurred to me. Mayor Pete needs to change the spelling of his name and all his problems will be solved. He needs to become Pete Booty-Jedge!

[mobeau69]

15. Pete is capitalizing on the name thing. He's making lemonade.

BOOT-EDGE-EDGE BOOT-EDGE-EDGE

[FakeNoose]

16. Rachel stumbled over his name a couple times

[badhair77]

19. Chris Matthews totally destroyed his name last night.

I think others on the panel wanted to correct him but were afraid he might continue the spittle on them while he continued to butcher the name.

[FakeNoose]

21. Yes that's why he should change it to Booty-Jedge

Problem solved!

[forgotmylogin]

23. I don't blame him for using "PETE" on his banners.

I thought it was "booty-judge" until he explained it in the Maher interview "Boot-edge-edge".

I also laughed at the anecdote where a redcap claimed America would never vote for anyone with "Butt" in his name and was quickly reminded how enough of America voted for someone with a "Rump" in his name.

[not_the_one]

73. he also said

buddha-judge was acceptably close. I find that easier to say.

[badhair77]

25. Lol

[cwydro]

59. It's really not that hard to say.

And it’s not pronounced “booty-judge.”

[FakeNoose]

61. Agreed

It's not hard to pronounce, but people stumble when they read it. It's not an English word, obviously.
Every time I hear Mayor Pete pronounce his own name, I'm hearing Booty-Jedge.

[forgotmylogin]

74. It's not hard to say.

It's hard to read and pronounce without having heard it. I never would guess "judge" from "gieg".

[DoctorJoJo]

35. I Sent Her Specific Instructions On It, and She STILL Puts That "U" In There--Lawrence, Too!

[FakeNoose]

66. Yes I know

I actually said that in my post. I also stated that I was talking about the state of Indiana, not South Bend.

[elfin]

5. The only reason I hate the idea is....

I will have to watch Faux Noise. Proud to say I have NEVER watched Pox except for the entertainment and sports networks.

[customerserviceguy]

6. His low burn rate

compared to the contributions he's received show that he knows how to utilize free media effectively.

[mobeau69]

10. Yeah, I noticed that today on a graph CNN showed.

They didn't comment on it but it really stood out.

Milk 'em Pete!

[Renew Deal]

24. His media strategy seems to parallel Trumps

Last edited Tue Apr 16, 2019, 07:43 PM - Edit history (1)

Show up everywhere

[Blue_true]

46. We need to do that.

We can't expect to run urban campaigns in some states like Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Georgia and win. Our statewide campaigns need to also hit medium sized and small cities in red areas to buck up local democrats and pull in some independents.

[workinclasszero]

7. Pete following Bernie

Good move I would say.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

38. Brilliant move to follow Bernie's lead!! My hat's off to Mayor Pete... wishing him all the best!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Blue_true]

58. Wrong. Pete was the first democrat on Fox. He did an interview on

Fox News Sunday about a month ago. He did well in that interview and caught more people's attention.

[workinclasszero]

60. Wasn't a town hall...taking questions from the crowd

Totally different situation.

[Blue_true]

72. Chris Wallace tried numerous times to trip Mayor Pete up.

Mayor Pete handled Wallace with aplomb. I think that an experienced and hostile interviewer like Chris Wallace is much tougher than a crowd that seemed to have a lot of avid Bernie supporters in it.

[Celerity]

70. +1

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128737883

[cwydro]

8. Yes.

I’m all on board with this.

[SallyHemmings]

9. Talking to the Traitor's voters is smart

Annoying the crap out of the Traitor is priceless...

[mobeau69]

11. LOL

I read he's been whining about faux and Bernie today!

[SallyHemmings]

12. I love it!

[Blue Owl]

14. Watch him outfox Fox and its legion of mouth-breathers

[mobeau69]

18. Like He's Playing the Violin

My money'll be all in on Pete.

[badhair77]

17. I think he'll do well. He's not afraid to address all the challenges and the gotcha questions.

Martha McCallum seemed really into those last night.

[mobeau69]

20. So was Barnicle, then Pete smacked it clear out of the park!

That was a thing of beauty!

[zentrum]

22. Many here said Bernie

...was wrong to do this. But I think it's really important that Bernie and Pete are doing this.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

36. Abso-fuckin-lutely!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Tiggeroshii]

26. It makes no sense for us to not be talking to Republicans.

Bernie started a great trend!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

37. He sure did!! But, then, we can always count on Bernie to lead the way!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[donkeypoofed]

27. Donnie Two Scoops won't like that one bit !!!

He'll be telling Fox to seed the audience with his supporters. Then imagine they fall on luv with Mayor Pete and his fan base shrinks!! Oooooh, I hope it happens. Spanky will feel bad when Mayor Pete "wins" the Town Hall (like the way he "won" the Mueller Report) and gets great ratings (all Spanky cares about).

[watoos]

28. Well 2 candidates with guts.

Now wasn’t it crazy saying that Bernie was legitimizing Fox?

Go get em mayor.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

33. No, that was under the "Bernie Standard," which is only to be applied to Bernie!!

I agree with you though... like Bernie, he"s got guts... good for him!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

29. Where's the outrage like that displayed against Bernie for doing a townhall on Faux News?!

Oh wait, that was BERNIE and under the "Bernie Standard," it's now seen as a "brilliant move." No disrespect to Mayor Pete... I very much like the guy and he IS making a smart move by following Bernie's lead.

Good for Mayor Pete!! Here's hoping he does go on Fux and kix some azz!! Indded, wishing him the best of luck throughout the campaign.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Blue_true]

48. The difference?

Pete Buttigieg has not attacked the Democratic Party at every turn. People believe that he will serve us well by going on Fox, there was not the same sentiment about Bernie based upon his history of dogging the Democratic Party, and "democratic establishment" (what ever that means).

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

50. Ummmm, just one problem... that was NOT the reason Bernie was bashed incessantly...

for his townhall appearance on Faux News... but, good try making up a new justification under the "Bernie Standard" for why it's now okay for others appear on Fux, but not Bernie.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[iamthebandfanman]

30. Weird

coulda swore i saw DUers complaining about bernie doing the same thing.. odd how that works..

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

31. Hmmm... yeahhh. Can't imagine who though.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[bernie59]

34. I noticed that too.

I'm happy that Bernie was able to give Pete the courage to go for it

[mobeau69]

40. Pete did Faux News Sunday early on.

Doing Wallace was pud for BOOT EDGE EDGE.

[bernie59]

41. OK, so maybe Pete gave Bernie the courage to do it!

I'm good with that as well

[Decoy of Fenris]

43. Doesn't matter which started it, really. Some Fox viewers -will- vote Dem if the candidate appeals.

We saw it last election with a lot of crossover Reps polling for Sanders, and we very well could see the same again this season assuming our candidates follow a similar formula.

[mobeau69]

47. Read his book.

The dude regulary went outside the wire in Afghanistan. He's not afraid of anybody or anything back home, especially bone spurs!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

53. Me too!! Happy to give Mayor Pete well-deserved props for his fearlessness!!

Smart move on his part!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

42. Yes... Mayor Pete deserves props too!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Blue_true]

49. Buttigieg is a party stalwart.

There is no concern that he will go on Fox and put down the Democratic Party. It is pretty simple to explain the concern about Bernie based upon his documented history.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

52. LOL... you know full well that was NOT the reason Bernie was criticized for his

Faux News townhall appearance. Good try though... it did make me laugh!! Thanks!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[murielm99]

32. I wish he would stay away from Fox.

This legitimizes them, and that is not good.

[mobeau69]

45. I don't think that's possible.

When you're selling you want to cover the entire marketplace. Besides, it's free advertising.

[IndianaDave]

51. I don't think ANYTHING or ANYONE can legitimize that network!

The most fun about this is to know that Trump thinks he OWNS Fox. Pete and Bernie are invading his space, and he can't control it. It drives him nuts. Which entertains the hell out of me! Just wait for his deranged Tweets. It will be sheer comedy!

[Ruby the Liberal]

54. I would have agreed just a few weeks ago

I have a hard-core RW coworker. Struggles at times, but defends the most egregious shit out of the Trump Cabal because "winning" or whatever. Shes smart, just punches down instead of up. You know the type. We don't see eye to eye on about anything related to society, politics, etc...

Anywhosal, she came in Monday morning and asked me if I had heard of "this Pete guy whose running" and could I pronounce his name for her. Apparently her kiddo (liberal, mid-30s) sent her some clips over the weekend and she is intrigued.

I think anyone with the gravitas to own them in their own yard should go for it (and not all of our candidates need apply for that, IMO). Bernie did great, and I think Pete would as well. In their heart of hearts, they are mortified by Trump. We just need them to come to grips with that before Nov 3 2020.

[Politicub]

39. An intellectual on Fox??

And one who is quickly becoming a front runner in the primary lead-up??

What is happening?!





On edit - Some folks sound like sore-tailed cats. Embrace the Pete moment.

This attention is important now and beyond. Think of the gay kid who may be sitting in the living room while his dad watches Fox. He or she will never forget Pete!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

44. Couldn't agree more with your edit... embrace the moment, yes!!...

<-- moment


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[bullwinkle428]

62. WORD. You make some GREAT points!

[Hekate]

55. Excellent plan

[Lefta Dissenter]

56. He did really well

The last time he was on Faux. Cool, calm and collected. And, of course, super, duper smart. I think a town hall is a great move, if for no other reason, to get in more practice addressing questions from the right.

[dgauss]

57. Fox may try to load the audience with a more hostile, Trump loving crowd with Buttigieg.

They probably see it as a mistake with Sanders to have anyone in that audience who supported Sanders or were even slightly open minded. The "How many people would give up their employer based insurance in favor of Medicare for all" question backfired badly.

It may be a good thing if they stack the audience with Trump supporters. Then a few million regular Fox viewers would get to hear all those talking points they've been indoctrinated with fired at Buttigieg, and then they would see Buttigieg dismantle those talking points, in an unexpectedly calm, reasonable way they're not used to, and they would have a hard time disagreeing with much of what he says.

There are people who watch Fox who haven't fallen completely off the cliff yet and Buttigieg is a person who might be able to pull a few of them back away from the ledge. I think Sanders can do that as well, but Buttigieg may be even better at it.

Some people may find that distasteful, but it's an important thing to do. Or at least try to do.

[Skya Rhen]

64. If Bernie was complicit in having 70% of the audience stacked with his supporters

the same courtesy should be extended to Mayor Pete.

Why should he be the sacrificial lamb when Bernie, a seasoned politician, was able to get off easy with his non-Fox / non-hostile audience?

Let's play fair, shalll we?

[brooklynite]

67. How about; let's not engage in conspiracy theories without any basis?

If you have evidence that the audience was stacked in one way or another, present it.

[dgauss]

69. Besides the "If Bernie was complicit" nonsense, I think you missed my point.

The talking points heard on Fox News and right wing radio are rarely challenged in real time by someone with Buttigieg's abilities.

If Fox tries to stack the audience with Trump supporters it may well backfire, for the reason that regular Fox viewers will be exposed to a very compelling response to those talking points they've been conditioned to believe. A little cognitive dissonance for those who aren't totally beyond reason.

[Autumn]

71. Trump says the same thing. Do you have any proof it was stacked? Because Trump doesn't,

he just likes to tweet bullshit.

[rgbecker]

63. What's next? Please don't buy Mayor Pete's book!

He'll end up a millionaire and between that and his support of Fox ratings, that will be the end of his campaign.

[Celerity]

75. book deals seem to be political poison atm, ask Catherine E. Pugh

‘No way’: Baltimore mayor’s deals raise eyebrows in the book world

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/no-way-the-size-of-baltimore-mayor-catherine-pughs-deals-raise-eyebrows-in-the-book-world/2019/04/02/cc064d0c-5566-11e9-8ef3-fbd41a2ce4d5_story.html

[prodigitalson]

68. He will have a VERY different crowd

Fox PTB will make sure of that.

[VarryOn]

76. You're probably right...

But, the experience will only make him better for the debate stage.

[AlexSFCA]

77. this will be entertaining for sure

Pete is incredibly smart and intuitive so I think he may play them well.