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Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:43 PM

 

New Tulsi Gabbard ad critical of Trump/Pence "unholy alliance" with Saudis

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Reply New Tulsi Gabbard ad critical of Trump/Pence "unholy alliance" with Saudis (Original post)
True Dough Apr 2019 OP
pnwmom Apr 2019 #1
nycbos Apr 2019 #3
watoos Apr 2019 #8
watoos Apr 2019 #7
pnwmom Apr 2019 #17
Chin music Apr 2019 #2
watoos Apr 2019 #9
secondwind Apr 2019 #28
sfwriter Apr 2019 #4
watoos Apr 2019 #10
sfwriter Apr 2019 #25
Chin music Apr 2019 #29
Chin music Apr 2019 #12
George II Apr 2019 #5
watoos Apr 2019 #13
pnwmom Apr 2019 #18
mahina Apr 2019 #6
David__77 Apr 2019 #11
watoos Apr 2019 #14
RockRaven Apr 2019 #15
watoos Apr 2019 #16
JI7 Apr 2019 #19
pnwmom Apr 2019 #21
RockRaven Apr 2019 #23
Algernon Moncrieff Apr 2019 #24
Chin music Apr 2019 #30
watoos Apr 2019 #20
Hassler Apr 2019 #22
stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #26
proud patriot Apr 2019 #27

Response to True Dough (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:46 PM

1. I wouldn't waste a minute of time watching her. n/t

 

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:47 PM

3. Broken clocks are right twice a day.

 

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Response to nycbos (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:29 PM

8. You talking about Barbara Lee?

 

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:28 PM

7. Yeah, she has the guts to take on Trump.

 

I haven't heard many of our other candidates bashing Trump.

It's going to take someone as tough as nails to take on trump. At least she served in the military and understands all about the Saudi/Israeli/US alliance under Trump.

Remember something else, there was only 1 Democrat in the House who voted no to give Bush the authority to invade Iraq.
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Response to watoos (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:19 PM

17. You've got to be kidding. ALL the Dems have bashed Trump, but she's the only one

 

who decided tp pay a social visit to Trump in the Tower a few days after the election.

And she understands so little about the middle east that she believes Assad when he says he didn't gas his own people.

She's bad news.
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Response to True Dough (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 09:47 PM

2. I like hearing her speak.

 

That's my thought. And the message is right on. We need to fan out, and do MORE of this.
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Response to Chin music (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:30 PM

9. I have 4 candidates who I am considering,

 

who need to be as tough as nails to take on Trump, and Elizabeth Warren is one of the 4.
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Response to Chin music (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:42 PM

28. I liked this presentation. We need more of this.

 

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Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:34 PM

10. What scare is that?

 

The Saudis have madrassas all over the world preaching their hatred of Christians. Oh yeah I forgot, the talking point is supposed to be that Iran is the #1 purveyor of terrorism. I forgot, Bibi is our leader.
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Response to watoos (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:44 PM

29. +1

 

The Madrassas are well documented. You are spot on.
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Response to sfwriter (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:42 PM

12. Poopshoot? Really?

 

Weird choice of words imho.
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Response to True Dough (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:08 PM

5. Isn't there an "unholy alliance" between a candidate and Assad?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:44 PM

13. Did Saddam have WMD?

 

Did Assad gas his own people? Tulsi is former military who served our nation and she doesn't deserve to be bashed here. It's one reason I proudly show her face.

Removing Assad from power was an alliance between Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the US. It had nothing to do with the false flag operation of Assad gassing his own people, it had all to with building a Qatari natural gas pipeline through Syria which Assad would not allow. Instead, an Iran/Iraq pipeline is being built through Syria.

Yes I know president Obama gave a speech blaming Assad, but then what did he do? He did nothing because he knew that it wasn't Assad.

Removing Assad from power would have had the same effect that removing Saddam from power had. People make me laugh, they have history to teach them but they never learn.
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Response to watoos (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:23 PM

18. Yes Assad DID gas his own people. Tulsi is wrong about that. I believe Obama, not the woman

 

who visited Trump in his Tower in November 2016.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/syria-assad-obama-united-nations-227385

Even after he supposedly turned over his entire stockpile of chemical weapons three years ago, Bashar Assad is still crossing Barack Obama's "red line," a U.N. investigation has found.

U.S. officials confirmed Wednesday that the probe had determined that the Syrian president and his regime were responsible for at least two cases of the deadly use of chlorine in the Arab country's civil war since 2013. Investigators also blamed the Islamic State terrorist group in an incident involving mustard gas.
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Response to True Dough (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:27 PM

6. Smart to attack on the strength, perceived anyway, with Christians,

 

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Response to True Dough (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:37 PM

11. Great message.

 

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Response to True Dough (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:52 PM

14. The Saudis just got bounced from social media

 

for spreading anti-Mueller propaganda. Have fun Tulsi bashers throwing love and kisses at a country that hacks up a journalist with a bone saw. I haven't forgotten yet what Saudi Arabia did to us on 9/11 and neither has Tulsi.

Keep bashing her it will alleviate the hurt that sometimes comes from telling the truth.

I find it disgusting that so many here have sided with Saudi Arabia, the country that was really behind the gassing in Syria.
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Response to True Dough (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:55 PM

15. But no comment on the unholy alliance between Trump and Russia?... Weird right?

 

If you believe she is honestly disturbed enough about Trump/Saud to speak on it, yet honestly NOT disturbed enough about Trump/Russia to speak on it, AND she is a well-informed well-intentioned intellectually-honest good-actor, I cannot help you.

Something is wrong about the things which she chooses to speak and act on. I may not be able to convince anyone else to think likewise, but as for myself, I cannot trust her.
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Response to RockRaven (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:16 PM

16. Your undecided candidate hasn't said anything about

 

the right wing narrative being pushed about Sri Lanka. I live among Trumpers in central Pa. where they voted 80-20 for Trump. I went golfing Monday and the first thing I heard from them was a question about why the liberal media isn't talking about Muslims killing Christians in Sri Lanka? You are spot on, she had the guts to answer the question my Trump friends asked me. She is the only candidate so far that I have seen answer that right wing talking point.

You're darn right I trust her, only she and mayor Pete, among our candidates served our country in the military, I stand with our veterans.
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Response to watoos (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:25 PM

19. who gives a shit what right wing bigots say. how about the christians from latin america who want to

 

come to the US and trump is rippping apart those christian children from their christian parents.
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Response to watoos (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:36 PM

21. Then you should support Mayor Pete instead of the person who opposed

 

marriage equality till 2014 -- and then told an interviewer in Oxy in 2015 that she hadn't changed her PERSONAL views on LGBT and abortion; she just no longer thought it was the government's business.
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Response to watoos (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:55 PM

23. I notice you fail to point to any statement from her on Trump/Russia, which was the reason I cited

 

for finding her not worthy of my trust. Can you actually provide a honest and comprehensive run-down of her stance on Trump-Russia/Putin which puts her on the right side of a) our national security, b) the rule of law, or c) intellectual honesty?

You know, I'm sure you know, I'm sure everyone here knows, that given the Russian-Iran-Syrian alignment and Saudi-Iranian antagonism, bashing Trump-Saudi corruption (however warranted that criticism may be to an *independent* arbiter) is still ALSO congruent with corrupt traitorous behavior favoring Assad or Putin or even Iran. Go ahead and provide some evidence that indicates she is worthy of the public trust which allows us to differentiate between the various explanations for her statements on this matter.
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Response to watoos (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:54 AM

24. One thing Gabbard brings out is that Trump can be flanked from the right by Dems on some issues

 

Soft on Saudi Arabia is a good line of attack and a valid one. Another is soft-on-Russia. While Trump became chummy with Putin, Russia has deployed what can only be interpreted to be a first-strike weapon. Trump is not making us safer, and he's destabilizing the alliances that have kept the peace.
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Response to watoos (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:48 PM

30. Heh heh re. the voice of the 'undecided's.

 

It's a sound bite info-bit. Who's to say that one about russia won't be next. Tulsi isnt perfect, neither am I. The elections a long time away. I like that she has the guts to proudly say she's a Democrat. Some can't even do that. And I loved the guy,...once. (PS..I will again if I have to...just sayin....NOT ma' first choice anymore.)
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Response to True Dough (Original post)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:36 PM

20. Lots of hate here for 1 of 2 of our candidates who served our country.

 

People don't trust her ehh. How many of our candidates did this?

Serving in Iraq

In 2004, as Tulsi was campaigning for re-election to the State House, the 29th Brigade Combat Team was called up and began preparing to deploy to Iraq. Tulsiís name was not on the mandatory deployment roster, but she knew there was no way she could stay behind in beautiful Hawaii as her brothers and sisters were sent off to war.

She left an easy win to re-election and volunteered to deploy.

Keep bashing our veterans.
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Response to watoos (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 24, 2019, 11:45 PM

22. No one is bashing her service, but your comment sounds like something FUX news will run.

 

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Response to watoos (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:38 PM

26. Charles Whitman was a U.S. Marine !

 

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Response to True Dough (Original post)

Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:40 PM

27. I love my Rep.

 

Tulsi is the Genuine article
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