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November 21, 2014
Yes, the wolves will be looking into the matter of the missing chickens...
CORRUPTION.
They mock us to our faces.
Yes, the wolves will be looking into the matter of the missing chickens...
CORRUPTION.
November 21, 2014
There is no excuse for this in the United States of America. None.
No more corporate sellouts, Republicans or Democrats. No more corporate shills. No more Third Way vultures in Democrat suits. They are traitors. They are selling out our democracy to craven greed and destroying this nation.
Bernie Sanders 2016
Remember this horrifying post.
“They pull thousands of teeth here. At the end, they’ll have buckets of teeth...”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025277717
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025277717
There is no excuse for this in the United States of America. None.
No more corporate sellouts, Republicans or Democrats. No more corporate shills. No more Third Way vultures in Democrat suits. They are traitors. They are selling out our democracy to craven greed and destroying this nation.
Bernie Sanders 2016
November 19, 2014
rather than a glaring, blatant, systemic corporate money/corruption problem.
We have united oligarchy, not gridlocked democracy.
So sick of the pretending that it's some bizarre psychological problem,
rather than a glaring, blatant, systemic corporate money/corruption problem.
We have united oligarchy, not gridlocked democracy.
November 19, 2014
Ditto for corporate Democrats, who have fought to defend spying all along,
and whose sham "reform" bill here would have legalized phone spying permanently instead of allowing it to expire.
As usual, the entire sham partisan battle is a propagandist's wet dream: Set up a pseudo battle to divide people into their Red and Blue teams and get them to take sides in a false choice in which the spying agenda is advanced either way. Anything to keep us from uniting to demand ACTUAL cessation of the spying.
We have united oligarchy, not gridlocked democracy.
November 19, 2014
and the Obama administration and corporate Democrats have fought to defend it at every turn.
Moreover, this Trojan horse bill would have LEGALIZED and made permanent major aspects of the spying instead of allowing them to expire.
The Third Way propaganda trying to rewrite history in front of our faces and try to pretend that corporate Democrats have not been complicit in spying all along has reached the point of embarrassment for the propaganda machine.
No, spying does not have to be here to stay. A mass surveillance infrastructure of totalitarianism has no place in a country that claims to be a representative democracy with a Constitution, notwithstanding all despicable attempts by the corporate propaganda machine to normalize it and pretend it is something Americans should roll over and accept.
Bullshit. The spying is a bipartisan goal of our corporate oligarchy,
and the Obama administration and corporate Democrats have fought to defend it at every turn.
Moreover, this Trojan horse bill would have LEGALIZED and made permanent major aspects of the spying instead of allowing them to expire.
The Third Way propaganda trying to rewrite history in front of our faces and try to pretend that corporate Democrats have not been complicit in spying all along has reached the point of embarrassment for the propaganda machine.
No, spying does not have to be here to stay. A mass surveillance infrastructure of totalitarianism has no place in a country that claims to be a representative democracy with a Constitution, notwithstanding all despicable attempts by the corporate propaganda machine to normalize it and pretend it is something Americans should roll over and accept.
November 19, 2014
Yes. It was a Trojan horse bill to legalize spying
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5838035Sorry to interrupt the lovefest but I get nausea from people lauding Obama for the same things we hated Bush for. Being hypocrites is a HUGE reason we lost the midterms. People voted against the government in general which they should but unfortunately it wasn't directed at Republicans. But all the backslapping about how great the government under Obama is is simply naive, myopic and arrogant. Sorry but a few breaks doesn't make up for spying on citizens, imprisoning citizens(do people ignore the statistics in their ivory towers?), torture, wars, wall st giveaways, lack of transparency, more lobbyists in regulatory positions, secret trade agreements etc etc. But a loser always blames the other side. I know how wrong and vile Repubs are but when you go along with them and be subservient to them for favors, fame and status how can we complain and blame Rand Paul? My understanding is that this bill not only sucked but did the opposite of its (stated) intention. We were lucky Repubs opposed it out of their ironic sheer hatred of Obama. In this case they voted against their own special interests BECAUSE if no bill is passed the spying provisions EXPIRE which is more important than any fake reforms. It's our fault we handed them this issue. Obama rolled over for the intelligence community much like he joined these same Republicans stalling the release of the Torture Report until they got a Senate majority to squash it. If I am wrong about the spying provision sunsetting please tell me. If I'm wrong fine then...if I'm not then you are embarrassing yourselves and hence all of us.
Typical, slimy MO of corporatists, to use propaganda to try to present as "reform" legislation that would actually legalize and make permanent. broad swaths of the spying.
November 19, 2014
versus
The corporate MO: Manipulation, not representation.
Corporatists don't represent human beings or stand for values and principles.
They advertise, lie, spin, dissemble, and hire PR firms to figure out how best to manipulate human beings to maximize their profit.
It's a stark contrast:
Bernie Sanders DROPS A TRUTH BOMB Re: Keystone
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025835789
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025835789
versus
Hillary Clinton refuses to say now where she stands on Keystone pipeline
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025834984
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025834984
November 19, 2014
Let's not forget what we are really dealing with. The Third Way was NEVER a grass-roots phenomenon. It is a deliberate, Wall-Street bankrolled infiltration of the Democratic Party.
Their agenda *and* their relentless propaganda are all part of a deliberate, treasonous corporate coup of democracy:
Huge K&R. They are not "centrists." They are extremists dismantling democracy itself.
I could not agree with you more strongly:
Yes, the use of the word "Centrism" for THESE policies is Orwellian as hell
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025246398#post11
"Centrism" to me carries a deliberate connotation of being "in the center"..in other words, not extreme in either direction. Ditto for the word "moderate," which is constantly used to describe Third Way politicians whose policies are anything but moderate in the traditional sense of the word.
Austerity and attacks on safety nets in a country that has already devastated its middle class are opposed by over 80 percent of Americans across party lines, yet these Third Way economic positions are nevertheless described as "centrist," as though they fell in the mainstream of American opinion. Policies coming out of our government now routinely bear little resemblance to what people have repeatedly stated in polls that they want, and neoliberal politicians lie their way through campaigns because they realize how unpopular their positions really are...yet we persist in calling them "centrists."
Secret laws, secret courts, "Kill Lists"/indefinite detention without due process, and mass surveillance in the United States of America are extreme violations of our Constitution and should not be considered "moderate" positions in any sense of the word. They are extreme, even fascistic policies, yet the politicians who espouse them are permitted by us to describe themselves as "moderates."
I think we need to start using the words, "corporatist," "extreme," and even "fascist" to describe what is happening in this country under the corporatist/neoconservative/neoliberal/Third Way agenda. We are witnessing a malignant merger of state and corporations and the active dismantling of important Constitutional protections. The corporate state is pouring our tax dollars into propaganda and marketing for their agenda, and IMO the vast majority of Americans, while aware of their own economic pain, have little understanding of the peril facing our democratic institutions and basic Constitutional protections.
We use words that suggest the current neoliberal and neocon policies are business as usual in America...just another flavor of policies that Americans can trust still fall safely within the boundaries of a democratic, constitutional, representative political system. They are "centrist" or "moderate." But they really aren't...and I think we need to adjust our labels to drive home the seriousness of the crisis we face.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025246398#post11
"Centrism" to me carries a deliberate connotation of being "in the center"..in other words, not extreme in either direction. Ditto for the word "moderate," which is constantly used to describe Third Way politicians whose policies are anything but moderate in the traditional sense of the word.
Austerity and attacks on safety nets in a country that has already devastated its middle class are opposed by over 80 percent of Americans across party lines, yet these Third Way economic positions are nevertheless described as "centrist," as though they fell in the mainstream of American opinion. Policies coming out of our government now routinely bear little resemblance to what people have repeatedly stated in polls that they want, and neoliberal politicians lie their way through campaigns because they realize how unpopular their positions really are...yet we persist in calling them "centrists."
Secret laws, secret courts, "Kill Lists"/indefinite detention without due process, and mass surveillance in the United States of America are extreme violations of our Constitution and should not be considered "moderate" positions in any sense of the word. They are extreme, even fascistic policies, yet the politicians who espouse them are permitted by us to describe themselves as "moderates."
I think we need to start using the words, "corporatist," "extreme," and even "fascist" to describe what is happening in this country under the corporatist/neoconservative/neoliberal/Third Way agenda. We are witnessing a malignant merger of state and corporations and the active dismantling of important Constitutional protections. The corporate state is pouring our tax dollars into propaganda and marketing for their agenda, and IMO the vast majority of Americans, while aware of their own economic pain, have little understanding of the peril facing our democratic institutions and basic Constitutional protections.
We use words that suggest the current neoliberal and neocon policies are business as usual in America...just another flavor of policies that Americans can trust still fall safely within the boundaries of a democratic, constitutional, representative political system. They are "centrist" or "moderate." But they really aren't...and I think we need to adjust our labels to drive home the seriousness of the crisis we face.
Let's not forget what we are really dealing with. The Third Way was NEVER a grass-roots phenomenon. It is a deliberate, Wall-Street bankrolled infiltration of the Democratic Party.
Their agenda *and* their relentless propaganda are all part of a deliberate, treasonous corporate coup of democracy:
When the DLC connections to the Koch Bros. became well known, they just rebranded the infiltration
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4165556
When you hear "Third Way", think INVESTMENT BANKERS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024127432
GOP Donors and K Street Fuel Third Way’s Advice for the Democratic Party
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101680116
The Rightwing Koch Brothers fund the DLC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x498414
Same companies behind the GOP are behind the DLC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1481121
November 18, 2014
No. Absolutely not. Al Franken voted for NDAA and the Patriot Act.
Al Franken defends mass surveillance.
He supported SOPA and PIPA.
He joined with Republicans to defeat an amendment restoring funds to the food stamp program.
He wil not seriously challenge the corporate takeover that is dismantling democracy in this country.
We can and must do much, much better. We need Bernie Sanders or someone very like him.
November 18, 2014
K&R Important, important post.
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