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July 12, 2022

An effective AWB by Exec Order?

I posted this idea in another thread, but thought it might be interesting to discuss here.

Trump may have opened a door for restrictions not previously opened before by any other President.

After the Las Vegas massacre, Trump banned bump stocks by exec order. A bump stock is essentially just a non-federally regulated part of a rifle that functions differently than other stocks. I think the strength of this manner of prohibition is that there are still other stock options that make the AR or other rifles useable (collapsible, folder, or fixed stocks).

There are a lot of non-federally regulated parts on AR-type rifles. For example, magazines, collapsible/folding stocks, and pistol grips are nonregulated parts.

If what Trump did by banning bump stocks was legal (and perhaps it wasn't which is why he did it knowing it would be overturned), then Biden could cite him as an example of how to handle AR-type rifles.

He could, in effect, recreate an AWB by exec order. I think the issue will be that he can't make the rifles unuseable. For example, perhaps he could ban collapsible stocks, but not fixed stocks. He could ban 11+ round magazines, but not 10 rounds mags. He could ban pistols grips, but not grips that connect to the stock (e.g., monster grips).

I don't think this will significantly reduce gun violence or even mass shootings, but it would achieve AWB-compliant ARs similar to the ones available during the 1994 AWB which Biden credits as having an effect.

Just a thought.

July 11, 2022

Joe Biden to Manuel Oliver, Dad to killed Parkland teen - Sit down. You'll hear what I have to say."

Ouch, Joe. I doubt Joe knew what was what initially, but his people should have prepared him for the possibility of angry parents.



https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-gun-speech-parkland-father-manuel-oliver-response-1723531

excerpts

During the speech, Biden boasted that the legislation "proves, despite the nay-sayers, we can make meaningful progress on dealing with gun violence," when Oliver began to interrupt him, appearing to criticize the legislation for not going far enough to curb gun violence.

President Joe Biden told Manuel Oliver, a father of a teenager killed in the 2018 Parkland, Florida, school shooting, to "let me finish" when Oliver interrupted his speech celebrating a bipartisan gun safety law.
"I've been trying to tell you this for years," Oliver said.

Biden responded: "Make no mistake—sit down. You'll hear what I have to say. Let me finish my thought."

Biden also encouraged the crowd to "let [Oliver] talk."
July 7, 2022

CNN showed a pic of Crimo's 2nd gun in car. Its a Kel-Tec Sub 2000

LEO and media are not identifying his weapons for some reason.

Its a lightweight carbine that shoots pistol calibre ammo like 9mm or .40.

It’s best known for being able to fold in half easily and reassemble by simply unfolding it.

Its sold with 10 round mags but there are after market magazines with higher capacity

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kel-Tec_SUB-2000

Picture of gun as shown on CNN:

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(Changed pic to CNN news poc amd Edited out some personal stuff because of some unhappy people. I intended this OP to be informational)

ETA: An LEO guest on CNN stated that he believes the gun used in the parade massacre was a Smith & Wesson M&P15, a standard AR-15 design.

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