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liberal N proud's JournalYes we are victims
Victims of the war on the middle class
Victims of the war on women
Victims of the financial ruin we have faced at the hands of the "job creators"
We are victims of the things that the rich greedy bastards have done to this world. They have done it for gain and to keep the rest of us from getting ahead.
There is another Issue 2 on the ballot in Ohio
Remember last year when we had to fight to save collective bargaining, the ballot issue was called Issue 2.
Well, the republicans are up to no good again and this time it involves how redistricting is done in the future.
Issue 2 language is still being worked out due to several court cases challenging the confusing language.
That would change the process for shaping congressional districts.
The Ohio Supreme Court calls the original ballot language for the redistricting proposal "defective," saying it "misleads voters."
The Court said the state had to come up with a new description of Issue 2.
That sparked a war over words between the members of the Ballot Board.
The Republicans argued the only way to be clear was to put more of the exact wording from the constitutional amendment on the ballot.
"We can either put the complete language or we can do a summary," said Republican Sen. Keith Faber. "But if you do a summary, you have to make sure you don't get it wrong. Well, in this time period, at this crunch, my fear is that if we do a summary, we're going to get it wrong because frankly, I didn't draft the confusing selection process that's in the constitutional amendment."
Including that part added more than a page and doubled the length of the text that will appear on the ballot.
The Supreme Court decision came after Voters First, the group behind Issue 2, sued the Ballot Board.
Organizers say they're still unhappy with the wording.
"It's going to take voters a long time to wade through some of the more technical language in the beginning of the ballot language," said Ann Henkener of Voters First, "and you're going to have to be very persistent and stand in the voting booth for a really long time to get to what the court described as the core of the issue, which is the criteria, which is getting politically-neutral districts."
http://woub.org/2012/09/14/ohio-ballot-board-lengthens-description-issue-2
The republican Secretary of State is not happy about this thing even being on the ballot let alone the challenge that the language has to be clear.
An Ohio Redistricting Amendment, also known as Issue 2, is on the November 6, 2012 ballot in the state of Ohio as an initiated constitutional amendment. The measure would create a 12-person citizen commission to draw legislative and congressional district maps. According to supporters of the measure, the commission would create districts that would reflect the state's geographic, racial, ethnic and political diversity. The initiative would also bar lobbyists and elected officials from joining the commission.
Voters First is the main group in favor of the measure. The organization spearheaded the initiative effort.
According to Catherine Turcer, chair of Voters First, at the time of the signature submission deadline on July 4, 2012, "We're celebrating Independence Day the way that you should. Thinking about our forefathers; thinking about the quality of our vote; thinking about what we as voters can do to actually make a difference."[3]
Opposition
The Cincinnati USA Regional chamber stated, "Oppose Ohio Issue 2, Ohio Redistricting: The Ohio redistricting amendment, if passed, will establish a 12-person citizen commission to draw General Assembly and congressional districts following the decennial census. The Chamber opposes Issue 2 and urges a no vote because it removes accountability to voters. If passed, Issue 2 would replace elected officials with an unelected, unaccountable, citizen commission with unlimited funds to redraw congressional and General Assembly district lines, while excluding some Ohioans from serving on the commission."[4]
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Ohio_Redistricting_Amendment_(2012)
This is one of those deceiving ballot issues that on the outside sounds like a great deal but in the end, it allows the republican controlled legislature to create a permanent panel to address redistricting. A panel that is not accountable to anyone and whose members cannot be removed for any reason by the way the language is written.
More dirty tricks by the republicans to affect elections that they would not otherwise win.
Cosspost in the Ohio forum http://www.democraticunderground.com/1071355
There is another Issue 2 on the ballot in Ohio
Remember last year when we had to fight to save collective bargaining, the ballot issue was called Issue 2.
Well, the republicans are up to no good again and this time it involves how redistricting is done in the future.
Issue 2 language is still being worked out due to several court cases challenging the confusing language.
That would change the process for shaping congressional districts.
The Ohio Supreme Court calls the original ballot language for the redistricting proposal "defective," saying it "misleads voters."
The Court said the state had to come up with a new description of Issue 2.
That sparked a war over words between the members of the Ballot Board.
The Republicans argued the only way to be clear was to put more of the exact wording from the constitutional amendment on the ballot.
"We can either put the complete language or we can do a summary," said Republican Sen. Keith Faber. "But if you do a summary, you have to make sure you don't get it wrong. Well, in this time period, at this crunch, my fear is that if we do a summary, we're going to get it wrong because frankly, I didn't draft the confusing selection process that's in the constitutional amendment."
Including that part added more than a page and doubled the length of the text that will appear on the ballot.
The Supreme Court decision came after Voters First, the group behind Issue 2, sued the Ballot Board.
Organizers say they're still unhappy with the wording.
"It's going to take voters a long time to wade through some of the more technical language in the beginning of the ballot language," said Ann Henkener of Voters First, "and you're going to have to be very persistent and stand in the voting booth for a really long time to get to what the court described as the core of the issue, which is the criteria, which is getting politically-neutral districts."
http://woub.org/2012/09/14/ohio-ballot-board-lengthens-description-issue-2
The republican Secretary of State is not happy about this thing even being on the ballot let alone the challenge that the language has to be clear.
An Ohio Redistricting Amendment, also known as Issue 2, is on the November 6, 2012 ballot in the state of Ohio as an initiated constitutional amendment. The measure would create a 12-person citizen commission to draw legislative and congressional district maps. According to supporters of the measure, the commission would create districts that would reflect the state's geographic, racial, ethnic and political diversity. The initiative would also bar lobbyists and elected officials from joining the commission.
Voters First is the main group in favor of the measure. The organization spearheaded the initiative effort.
According to Catherine Turcer, chair of Voters First, at the time of the signature submission deadline on July 4, 2012, "We're celebrating Independence Day the way that you should. Thinking about our forefathers; thinking about the quality of our vote; thinking about what we as voters can do to actually make a difference."[3]
Opposition
The Cincinnati USA Regional chamber stated, "Oppose Ohio Issue 2, Ohio Redistricting: The Ohio redistricting amendment, if passed, will establish a 12-person citizen commission to draw General Assembly and congressional districts following the decennial census. The Chamber opposes Issue 2 and urges a no vote because it removes accountability to voters. If passed, Issue 2 would replace elected officials with an unelected, unaccountable, citizen commission with unlimited funds to redraw congressional and General Assembly district lines, while excluding some Ohioans from serving on the commission."[4]
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Ohio_Redistricting_Amendment_(2012)
This is one of those deceiving ballot issues that on the outside sounds like a great deal but in the end, it allows the republican controlled legislature to create a permanent panel to address redistricting. A panel that is not accountable to anyone and whose members cannot be removed for any reason by the way the language is written.
More dirty tricks by the republicans to affect elections that they would not otherwise win.
Cosspost in GD
Study: 144,000 wind turbines at sea could power East Coast
Power East Coast via wind? Doable with 144,000 offshore turbines, study says
It would require 144,000 offshore turbines standing 270 feet tall not one of which exists since proposals have stalled due to controversy and costs. But the analysis shows its doable and where the best locations are, says study co-author Mark Jacobson, a Stanford professor of civil and environmental engineering.
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"The question that I would first ask" critics, Jacobson told NBC News, "is would they rather have a coal or natural power gas plant in their neighborhood, which affects their health and that of their children as well as their quality of life and property values, or an innocuous turbine that they could barely see during those times when they were actually looking offshore."
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/15/13864179-power-east-coast-via-wind-doable-with-144000-offshore-turbines-study-says?lite
There is a poll at the bottom of the page: Q: Should the U.S. encourage offshore wind power?
Fossil Fuel Industry Ads Dominate TV Campaign against Obama
New York Times
As Mr. Obama seeks re-election, that world is a distant memory. Some of the mightiest players in the oil, gas and coal industries are financing an aggressive effort to defeat him, or at least press him to adopt policies that are friendlier to fossil fuels. And the presidents former allies in promoting wind and solar power and caps on greenhouse gases? They are disenchanted and sitting on their wallets.
This years campaign on behalf of fossil fuels includes a surge in political contributions to Mitt Romney, attack ads questioning Mr. Obamas clean-energy agenda, and television spots that are not overtly partisan but criticize administration actions like new air pollution rules and the delay of the Keystone XL oil pipeline from Canada.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/us/politics/fossil-fuel-industry-opens-wallet-to-defeat-obama.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120914
The article goes on to blame Obama for the high gas prices and how the republican majority helped block climate change legislation.
McCain coming to Romney's rescue calls the President's foreign policy "feckless"
A day after he and many fellow Republicans showed restrained reaction to the White House's response to the deadly attacks against American diplomats in Libya, Sen. John McCain on Thursday ripped into President Obama for feckless foreign policy he said is harming Middle East relations.
What this is all about is American weakness and the presidents inability to lead, he told TODAYs Savannah Guthrie.
http://todayonthetrail.today.com/_news/2012/09/13/13843702-john-mccain-obamas-feckless-foreign-policy-fuels-mideast-violence?lite
Romney campaign trying to calm their base...
Romney camp: 'Don't get too worked up about the latest polling'
"Don't get too worked up about the latest polling," Newhouse writes in the memo. "While some voters will feel a bit of a sugar-high from the conventions, the basic structure of the race has not changed significantly. The reality of the Obama economy will reassert itself as the ultimate downfall of the Obama presidency, and Mitt Romney will win this race."
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/10/13780546-romney-camp-dont-get-too-worked-up-about-the-latest-polling?lite
Liar Liar Pants on Fire Ryan on Farce the Nation today
Where is Romney today?
He takes a lot of breaks from the campaign, leaving Ryan to do the pitch.
I question Romney's physical ability to serve. The Presidency is a very demanding position. Is Romney able to do the job?
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