December 20, 2015

This might be of interest here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251923292#post12

December 19, 2015

The one good piece of fallout from this hacking scandal/kerfuffle:

the way Weaver keeps calling a 39 year old "young people."

We're just like the GOP now, with young people all the way up to . . . what, 45? 50?

Good. I'm feeling younger already.

December 19, 2015

That day in 2013 when 14,000 strong, intelligent African American women

listened to Hillary Clinton speak, and the audience erupted in chants for her to run.

It's not a mystery why HRC has so much African American support, if you know how strong her ties have been over the decades with groups such as the Deltas.

This is what Bernie is up against in trying to cut into Hillary’s minority support. Many black women voters, like the Deltas, made up their minds long before the campaign started. And they are women in positions of influence.

In the re-election campaign of 2012, white women and men didn’t help to put Obama over the top. The majority of white people, of both genders, voted for Romney.

African Americans, and especially black women, were a key group for the President, and their votes will be critical in the coming election as well.


http://thegrio.com/2013/07/17/deltas-urge-clinton-to-run-in-2016/

Hillary Rodham Clinton said Tuesday the future of the Voting Rights Act is in “real jeopardy” following the Supreme Court’s decision striking down a portion of the law, telling a prominent organization of black women that Congress should act to preserve “fairness and equality” in the nation’s voting system.

The former secretary of state was feted with chants of “Run, Hillary, Run,” as she concluded her 30-minute remarks to nearly 14,000 members of the Delta Sigma Theta sorority, an historic black women’s organization celebrating its 100th anniversary.

Clinton, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, said the Supreme Court’s decision “struck at the heart” of the landmark law and warned that it could undermine Americans’ most fundamental rights.

“Unless Congress acts, you know and I know, more obstacles are on their way,” Clinton said, walking freely on stage instead of delivering her speech from a podium. “They’re going to make it difficult for poor people, elderly people, working people, minority people to be able to do what we should take for granted.”

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Clinton made no mention of any future political plans, saying she intends to promote early childhood development, the rights of women and girls around the globe and economic development in her new role in her family’s presidential foundation. In a nod to the sea of women wearing crimson and cream, the organization’s colors, Clinton quipped that “in mathematics, delta means change. I think that’s pretty fitting.”

December 19, 2015

Anyone else think Bernie would have done a much better job in the presser than Weaver?

I know Bernie comes on strong, but you can feel he has a heart, even when he yells. And he does feel genuine.

This Weaver guy made me feel like he was just there to bluster and deflect negative attention from the campaign. And he just wasn't believable.

I think this would have been over more quickly if Bernie had gone out and apologized, instead of Weaver going out and taking this scorched earth approach.

But then I wonder -- why has Bernie hired someone like Tom Weaver?

December 19, 2015

An interesting 6 - 1 hide for me. What was the main offense, do you think?

I honestly don't know -- especially that 6 to 1 thing.


The OP asserted that all the techies think what Uretsky did was peachy-keen. (In not quite those exact words.)

So I said:

So is my first statement rude and over-the-top?
Or my second?
Or both?



Update: I just found this.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/10/12/silicon-valley-diversity-tech-hiring-computer-science-graduates-african-american-hispanic/14684211/

SAN FRANCISCO – Top universities turn out black and Hispanic computer science and computer engineering graduates at twice the rate that leading technology companies hire them, a USA TODAY analysis shows.

Technology companies blame the pool of job applicants for the severe shortage of blacks and Hispanics in Silicon Valley.

But these findings show that claim "does not hold water," said Darrick Hamilton, professor of economics and urban policy at The New School in New York.

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On average, just 2% of technology workers at seven Silicon Valley companies that have released staffing numbers are black; 3% are Hispanic.

SNIP

An even larger gulf emerges between Silicon Valley and graduates of all U.S. colleges and universities. A survey by the National Center for Education Statistics showed that blacks and Hispanics each made up about 9% of all 2012 computer science graduates.

December 19, 2015

It's no mystery why the DNC decided to go to the press when it did.

(despite the claims of those who insist there was some ulterior motive.)

Wasserman already knew that the Sanders campaign was going to sue, and so she decided to make her side of the story public before the press learned about it through a Federal lawsuit.

How do I know this? Simple logic. That 11 page lawsuit, carefully written and filled with specifics, was not dashed off on a busy Friday afternoon.

What obviously happened was that the DNC confronted the Sanders campaign about the allegations, spoke to Sanders himself, and determined that they were going to temporarily withhold the database. The Sanders campaign objected -- and threatened to file a lawsuit if they did so.

Then Sanders's attorneys immediately got to work drafting this document, in case they needed to file it. As the negotiations dragged on, it became apparent to both sides that they were not going to reach an agreement and that the lawsuit would be filed. At that point, Wasserman went public.

December 19, 2015

"This is someone who said he was going to run a different sort of campaign."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-national-committee-civil-war/index.html

The campaign activated its email list to launch a petition against the DNC. And is' more liberal allies are joining in the fray. "Last week, the Working Families Party chose our candidate, and today, it looks like the DNC has chosen theirs," said Working Families Party National Director Dan Cantor, a reference to their endorsement of Sanders.

Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook let loose Friday evening, with Mook described the incident to reporters Friday evening simply "as a very egregious breach and our data was stolen. And he noted Sanders' petition email, which could be seen as a fundraising pitch for the Vermont senator.

"This is incredibly disappointing," Mook said, before driving the knife deeper. "This is someone who said he was going to run a different kind of campaign. Their staff stole data from their campaign and they are now fundraising off it."

The DNC's Wasserman Schultz almost dared Sanders to sue.

"The Sanders campaign doesn't have anything other than bluster at the moment that they can put out there," she said on CNN, arguing that her office had been "trying over the last two days to get an analysis from the Sanders campaign that at this point they have refused to provide."

December 19, 2015

I've been appreciating the lack of vile responses I've been getting lately

and realizing that ignore lists do work. It's annoying that they can still see your posts, and respond, but after a while it is possible to forget that they're still out there.

And to have DU be a more pleasant experience.

Peace to all of you!

December 19, 2015

Politico: "Sanders takes Clinton data then sues the DNC"

http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/the-2016-blast/2015/12/sanders-takes-clinton-data-then-sues-the-dnc-211847

Sanders takes Clinton data, then sues the DNC

By Henry C. Jackson
12/18/15 06:14 PM EST


BERN NOTICE: POLITICO’s Gabriel Debenedetti and Annie Karni report: BERNIE SANDERS’ campaign on Friday sued the Democratic National Committee for suspending its access to the national voter database, saying the move threatens to undermine the Vermont senator's presidential run.

Even as the campaign admitted its staffers had inappropriately reviewed and saved Hillary Clinton campaign data made available as a result of a software error, it emphatically accused the DNC of sabotage and of blatantly favoring Clinton.

“The leadership of the Democratic National Committee is now actively attempting to undermine our campaign. This is unacceptable,” Sanders’ campaign manager Jeff Weaver said on the eve of the third Democratic debate.

“Individual leaders of the DNC can support Hillary Clinton in any way they want, but they are not going to sabotage our campaign — one of the strongest grassroots campaigns in modern history.”


SNIP

December 19, 2015

Wasserman says they need the Sanders campaign to agree to an independent audit

and to provide an accounting of what happened and she's "baffled" they haven't provided it.

It IS baffling IF the campaign hasn't yet agreed to an independent audit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-threatens-to-sue-dnc-if-access-to-voter-list-isnt-restored/2015/12/18/fa8d6df8-a5a2-11e5-ad3f-991ce3374e23_story.html

Landing at the airport in Manchester ahead of Saturday’s debate, DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz said Sanders staffers needed to be “held accountable” for accessing the data and that campaign would not regain access to the system until it agrees to participate in an indepent audit and provides a full accounting of the incident.

“I’m baffled that they haven’t provided it,” she said.

“Certainly the vendor made a mistake. But people make mistakes leaving their front door unlocked also. It doesn’t mean it’s okay to go into their house and steal — and take — their stuff — which is what their campaign staff essentially did,” she added.

She said that Sanders himself was unaware of the breach until she called to discuss it 24 hours after it took place.