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March 29, 2013
Why did support for a new AWB slip? Those that want one made the same mistakes the teabaggers did.
To wit:
1) They mistook the enthusiasm of those who already agreed with them for a groundswell of support, and
2) They tried to get everything they wanted, instead of trying to get what they plausibly could and working
from that. In other words, they are anti-reformists or what you might call "the good is the enemy of the perfect"
types. Extremists quickly became the public face of both movements.
March 27, 2013
Note the finger on the trigger and the muzzle held in an unsafe manner, as in
another video with the same purported "gun owner":
Gee, I wonder what the chances are of Mr. "Responsible" getting his Second Amendment rights
curtailed, as advocated here on another DU thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12621389
Answer: Slim to none, of course-he works for MAIG, and gun control is not for the likes of them
- just us.
Why are "gun safety advocates" so poor at actual gun safety?
First, we had this classic-with Dianne Feinstein's finger on the trigger and not looking where she's pointing
the muzzle of the gun she's holding...
Then we have Joe Biden advocating firing a shotgun through a closed door
without knowing what's on the other side...
The latest ones are from a couple of videos from Mayors Against Illegal Guns posted on YouTube.
The first one is entitled, with no irony intented, "Responsible"
Note the finger on the trigger and the muzzle held in an unsafe manner, as in
another video with the same purported "gun owner":
Gee, I wonder what the chances are of Mr. "Responsible" getting his Second Amendment rights
curtailed, as advocated here on another DU thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12621389
Answer: Slim to none, of course-he works for MAIG, and gun control is not for the likes of them
- just us.
March 27, 2013
The Venn Diagram of Irrational Nonsense
Found this by way of BoingBoing:
http://crispian-jago.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/the-venn-diagram-of-irrational-nonsense.html
March 25, 2013
I like the term "National Republican Armory". Feel free to use it!
(And yes, 'armory' is the proper term, not 'arsenal'- one is where you keep the guns, the other is
where they are made)
March 21, 2013
So what happens if and when he starts doing this in districts/states that aren't Democratic locks?
Will you still trust him then?
For those who welcomed the entry of Michael Bloomberg into Democratic primary politics...
...and thus accepting Citizens United- a few words from the man himself ought to make you think twice about that:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/18/bloomberg-says-hes-focused-on-background-checks/
...Bloomberg's super PAC, Independence USA, spent $2 million in the recent Democratic primary for the Illinois special election to fill Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.'s seat. The group successfully backed state Rep. Robin Kelly over former U.S. Rep. Debbie Halvorson, who opposed an assault weapons ban.
Asked if his efforts to influence political races were similar to actions taken by Charles and David Koch–the billionaire brothers who've been much maligned by opponents for injecting their wealth into the political scene–Bloomberg said he has no problem with what they're doing.
He added he knows David Koch well and argued Koch is simply tying to help "get the policies that he thinks would be better for society."
"He's using his own money. I have no problems with what he's doing. And I'm sure he wouldn't have any problems with what I've done," he said.
Asked if his efforts to influence political races were similar to actions taken by Charles and David Koch–the billionaire brothers who've been much maligned by opponents for injecting their wealth into the political scene–Bloomberg said he has no problem with what they're doing.
He added he knows David Koch well and argued Koch is simply tying to help "get the policies that he thinks would be better for society."
"He's using his own money. I have no problems with what he's doing. And I'm sure he wouldn't have any problems with what I've done," he said.
So what happens if and when he starts doing this in districts/states that aren't Democratic locks?
Will you still trust him then?
March 17, 2013
Anybody else feel this way? I certainly don't.
"...I don't really care what limiting the scope of RKBA might cost the Democrats in votes."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/126263#post5Anybody else feel this way? I certainly don't.
March 8, 2013
Too bad, Tommy...
Boston Globe: Prospects limited for new gun control laws
http://bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/03/07/after-newtown-gun-control-push-gains-steam-both-and-off-capitol-hill/J5ETHo9Sq6tu6v3WC5tetL/story.htmlProspects limited for new gun control laws
By David Uberti
| Globe Correspondent
March 07, 2013
WASHINGTON — Advocates for stricter gun controls have more money this year, more energy, the president’s backing, and the national outrage over the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre on their side. But there already is a sense in Washington that they will have to settle for more modest gains in the months ahead than an assault weapons ban or sharp limits on magazine capacity.
Just how much the shootings last year in Newtown, Conn. — as well as the mass shooting in a movie theater in Aurora, Colo. — have changed the political climate will be tested Thursday when the Senate Judiciary Committee reviews a series of proposals to curb gun violence.
“If we don’t get [gun control] this time, we never will,” said Mayor Thomas M. Menino of Boston, who cochairs a gun-control advocacy group, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, with Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York...
By David Uberti
| Globe Correspondent
March 07, 2013
WASHINGTON — Advocates for stricter gun controls have more money this year, more energy, the president’s backing, and the national outrage over the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre on their side. But there already is a sense in Washington that they will have to settle for more modest gains in the months ahead than an assault weapons ban or sharp limits on magazine capacity.
Just how much the shootings last year in Newtown, Conn. — as well as the mass shooting in a movie theater in Aurora, Colo. — have changed the political climate will be tested Thursday when the Senate Judiciary Committee reviews a series of proposals to curb gun violence.
“If we don’t get [gun control] this time, we never will,” said Mayor Thomas M. Menino of Boston, who cochairs a gun-control advocacy group, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, with Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York...
Too bad, Tommy...
March 8, 2013
http://spiritofjefferson.com/blog/2013/03/house-panel-advances-local-gun-ordinance-repeal/
Hmm. I wonder who will be heard from first- the regional bigots or the "better pure than in power crowd"?
West Virginia Democrats resist attempts at gun control
http://spiritofjefferson.com/blog/2013/03/manchin-zero-support-for-assault-weapons-ban/Manchin: Zero support for assault weapons ban
March 6, 2013
CHARLES TOWN – Sen. Joe Manchin said in an interview Tuesday that groups running ads indicating that he supports sweeping gun control measures are not being truthful.
“Let me make it very clear: the only thing I’m working on is a criminal and mental background check,” Manchin said. “Anything else people have heard is basically a lie. They are just trying to get people excited and scared.”
Political pundits have wondered in recent weeks where centrist Democrats from Blue Dog states, like Manchin, will stand on an assault weapons ban and a bill limiting magazine capacity that are expected to be introduced during this congressional session.
Manchin said he is opposed to such measures himself and thinks they would not make it through the Senate.
March 6, 2013
CHARLES TOWN – Sen. Joe Manchin said in an interview Tuesday that groups running ads indicating that he supports sweeping gun control measures are not being truthful.
“Let me make it very clear: the only thing I’m working on is a criminal and mental background check,” Manchin said. “Anything else people have heard is basically a lie. They are just trying to get people excited and scared.”
Political pundits have wondered in recent weeks where centrist Democrats from Blue Dog states, like Manchin, will stand on an assault weapons ban and a bill limiting magazine capacity that are expected to be introduced during this congressional session.
Manchin said he is opposed to such measures himself and thinks they would not make it through the Senate.
http://spiritofjefferson.com/blog/2013/03/house-panel-advances-local-gun-ordinance-repeal/
House panel advances local gun ordinance repeal
March 7, 2013 | Filed under: latest headlines | Posted by: sojstaff
CHARLESTON (AP) — West Virginia would void local and county-wide gun laws under a measure endorsed Tuesday by the House Judiciary Committee, advancing it toward a vote by the full House of Delegates.
A non-unanimous voice vote approved the bill, which would make clear that only the Legislature can regulate firearms or ammunition.
The measure would strike down any ordinances inconsistent with state law, including several adopted in the 1990s by Charleston, the state’s largest city and its capital. Those limit handgun purchases to one per month, and require the buyer to wait 72 hours before receiving the weapon...
...A Republican, Jones also cited how sponsors of Tuesday’s bill include such Democrats as House Majority Leader Brent Boggs and Judiciary Chairman Tim Miley. In a state with high rates of gun ownership, Jones questioned whether that party was seeking to outmaneuver GOP lawmakers on the issue.
March 7, 2013 | Filed under: latest headlines | Posted by: sojstaff
CHARLESTON (AP) — West Virginia would void local and county-wide gun laws under a measure endorsed Tuesday by the House Judiciary Committee, advancing it toward a vote by the full House of Delegates.
A non-unanimous voice vote approved the bill, which would make clear that only the Legislature can regulate firearms or ammunition.
The measure would strike down any ordinances inconsistent with state law, including several adopted in the 1990s by Charleston, the state’s largest city and its capital. Those limit handgun purchases to one per month, and require the buyer to wait 72 hours before receiving the weapon...
...A Republican, Jones also cited how sponsors of Tuesday’s bill include such Democrats as House Majority Leader Brent Boggs and Judiciary Chairman Tim Miley. In a state with high rates of gun ownership, Jones questioned whether that party was seeking to outmaneuver GOP lawmakers on the issue.
Hmm. I wonder who will be heard from first- the regional bigots or the "better pure than in power crowd"?
March 7, 2013
Another video here:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=2208032304001
The phrase "transvaginal ultrasound" come to anybody elses mind?
Different bugbear, same mindset...
Bill suggests anger management classes for those purchasing ammo
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/bill-suggests-anger-management-classes-those-purch/nWkbQ/Bill suggests anger management classes for those purchasing ammo
The bill was filed less than a week ago and it would require anyone buying ammunition to take a two-hour anger management course.
Sen. Audrey Gibson of Jacksonville wrote the bill.
"You have to use your driver's license to purchase cold medications these days, but there is no mechanism for using a driver's license or no database on how much ammunition is out there."
The bill was filed less than a week ago and it would require anyone buying ammunition to take a two-hour anger management course.
Sen. Audrey Gibson of Jacksonville wrote the bill.
"You have to use your driver's license to purchase cold medications these days, but there is no mechanism for using a driver's license or no database on how much ammunition is out there."
Another video here:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=2208032304001
The phrase "transvaginal ultrasound" come to anybody elses mind?
Different bugbear, same mindset...
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