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AG Healey folds on attempted rifle ban, acknowledges guns are legal

https://www.nssf.org/nssf-welcomes-massachusetts-ags-enforcement-notice-clarification


WASHINGTON, D.C. — The National Shooting Sports Foundation® (NSSF®), the firearms industry trade association, accepts Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey’s agreement to clarify the Enforcement Notice that included “’Copies’ or ‘Duplicates’ of the Enumerated Weapons.” The Attorney General’s agreement to clarify this notice effectively ends the legal challenge by NSSF, Pullman Arms of Worcester, Mass., along with three other Massachusetts firearms retailers.

“We are pleased this matter has come to a successful resolution,” said Lawrence G. Keane, Senior Vice President of Government Relations and Public Affairs and General Counsel for NSSF. “We sought clarification to the Enforcement Notice to allow firearms retailers to know exactly what the law stated and ensure they were operating within the confines of that law. For two and a half years, these business owners were left in the dark and today, they finally have the clear answers they sought.”

In 2016 Attorney General Healey charged that firearms retailers were violating the intent of a state law against so-called “assault weapons” by making small tweaks to certain firearms and issued the Enforcement Notice. The Notice warned retailers those so-called “copies” or “duplicates” of the firearms specifically listed in the state law were illegal for sale.

NSSF and the stores had to file the case to challenge the Notice because it was too vague to apply. The complaint identified the difficulties in applying the Notice to listed firearms after the Attorney General’s office ignored multiple requests to clarify the Notice as to those firearms. The Office did not take steps to clarify the notice for two and a half years, and only recently notified the Plaintiffs that the listed firearms are not illegal “assault weapons.” The Office agreed to amend the Notice after NSSF prevailed against multiple motions designed to dismiss or stall the case. Because the Notice has been clarified, the goals for the case have been achieved, and there is nothing else to fight about in this action.

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Sat Dec 21, 2019, 06:57 AM (0 replies)

Massachusetts AG Healey folds on attempted rifle ban, acknowledges guns are legal

Then (2016)- "AG Maura Healey: We will win gun lawsuit"

https://www.masslive.com/politics/2016/10/ag_maura_healey_we_will_win_gu.html


https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141597906


BOSTON — Attorney General Maura Healey on Friday predicted that she will win a lawsuit filed by a national gun rights group over her interpretation of the state's assault weapons ban.

This summer, Healey angered gun rights supporters when she interpreted a ban on assault weapons to make illegal certain types of guns that are similar to assault weapons. Around 10,000 of those so-called "copycat" assault weapons were sold last year in Massachusetts.

The lawsuit, filed by the National Shooting Sports Foundation and four gun shops, argues that Healey's interpretation of the law violates due process and is "unconstitutionally vague, invalid and unenforceable."

Healey spoke Friday at a rally on Boston Common urging voters to cast ballots Nov. 8 for candidates who support gun control.



https://www.nssf.org/nssf-welcomes-massachusetts-ags-enforcement-notice-clarification

December 11, 2019

NSSF Welcomes Massachusetts AG’s ‘Enforcement Notice’ Clarification

WASHINGTON, D.C. — The National Shooting Sports Foundation, the firearms industry trade association, accepts Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey’s agreement to clarify the Enforcement Notice that included “’Copies’ or ‘Duplicates’ of the Enumerated Weapons.” The Attorney General’s agreement to clarify this notice effectively ends the legal challenge by NSSF, Pullman Arms of Worcester, Mass., along with three other Massachusetts firearms retailers.

“We are pleased this matter has come to a successful resolution,” said Lawrence G. Keane, Senior Vice President of Government Relations and Public Affairs and General Counsel for NSSF. “We sought clarification to the Enforcement Notice to allow firearms retailers to know exactly what the law stated and ensure they were operating within the confines of that law. For two and a half years, these business owners were left in the dark and today, they finally have the clear answers they sought.”

In 2016 Attorney General Healey charged that firearms retailers were violating the intent of a state law against so-called “assault weapons” by making small tweaks to certain firearms and issued the Enforcement Notice. The Notice warned retailers those so-called “copies” or “duplicates” of the firearms specifically listed in the state law were illegal for sale.

NSSF and the stores had to file the case to challenge the Notice because it was too vague to apply. The complaint identified the difficulties in applying the Notice to listed firearms after the Attorney General’s office ignored multiple requests to clarify the Notice as to those firearms. The Office did not take steps to clarify the notice for two and a half years, and only recently notified the Plaintiffs that the listed firearms are not illegal “assault weapons.” The Office agreed to amend the Notice after NSSF prevailed against multiple motions designed to dismiss or stall the case. Because the Notice has been clarified, the goals for the case have been achieved, and there is nothing else to fight about in this action.


Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Sat Dec 21, 2019, 05:55 AM (2 replies)

I don't believe requiring serial numbers will impact illegal use very much, if at all

Criminals will move to entirely homemade guns, as see:

https://www.google.com/search?q=homemade+submachine+guns&source=lmns&bih=713&biw=1536&client=firefox-b-1-d&hl=en-US&ved=2ahUKEwiRyImngLvmAhUDWt8KHZk4ARsQ_AUoAHoECAEQAA

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/queensland-police-find-sophisticated-gun-manufacting-workshop/8051244

Queensland Police have charged five people after finding homemade machine guns, a weapons factory and drug labs during raids on the Gold Coast.

Police and Australian Border Force officers searched four homes and two businesses last Friday.

At an industrial shed in Nerang, police found four machine guns, a commercial pill press, weapons manufacturing equipment, silencers, a 3D printer and drugs.

Detective Superintendent Jon Wacker said he believed it was the first time police had seen machine gun manufacturing in Queensland...



https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/homemade-submachine-guns-seized-near-edmonton-1.3558129


Homemade submachine guns seized near Edmonton

Jackie Dunham
CTVNews.ca Published Wednesday, August 23, 2017 12:15PM EDT Last Updated Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:35PM EDT

Alberta law enforcement officials have seized four prohibited firearms, including two homemade MAC-11 submachine guns, and arrested two suspects in Edmonton following an eight-month investigation.

The guns were allegedly manufactured at a “professional grade” machinist shop, located just west of Edmonton, according to a press release by Alberta Law Enforcement Response Teams (ALERT) on Wednesday. The owner of the shop was not aware of the guns, the release said.

ALERT Edmonton’s Guns and Gangs unit, with the help of Edmonton police and RCMP, confiscated a Beretta handgun equipped with a suppressor, a modified Suomi submachine gun with two oversized magazines and two homemade MAC-11 submachine guns with suppressors and oversized magazines.

Investigators are still looking into how many MAC-11 submachine guns were produced. They believe some of the weapons have already made their way to the criminal market.


...while legal gun owners will buy serialized kits, to save money and/or just to make something themselves-
like the narrator found out, making stuff is fun.

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon Dec 16, 2019, 04:30 PM (1 replies)

Russia and the Republicans: How Vladimir Putin got an American subsidiary

https://www.salon.com/2019/12/14/russia-and-the-republicans-how-vladimir-putin-got-an-american-subsidiary/

Russians went looking for allies on the American left for decades. Then they found Trump and the Republicans

...I remember wondering at the time why Moscow was even bothering with the splintered, weakened left of the '60s and '70s, and yet there they were, wasting their time in Broadway lofts and on factory floors in small towns in North Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi. It must have seemed to the KGB and Soviet leaders that they would find allies among those working for integration and voting rights during the Civil Rights movement, and they did. The Republican Party of that era would hardly have been a fertile hunting ground.

But it would turn out that they were sniffing around the wrong end of the political spectrum. After the Soviet Union collapsed, the new batch of Russian hardliners who replaced them would find their natural-born allies about 250 miles south in the Republican National Committee in Washington — and eventually in the current occupant of the Oval Office.

We’ve got a president of the United States who praises Russian President Vladimir Putin every chance he gets, yet spent the NATO summit last week looking like his mommy was making him eat his peas and carrots. He’s pressuring the other members of the Group of Seven to let Russia back in the club. At a recent meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky, he told the president of Ukraine he hoped Zelensky could “make a deal” with Putin, clearly indicating whose side Trump was on in the dispute over Crimea and eastern Ukraine. Trump and his Republican puppets have spent the last three months spreading Russian propaganda that it was Ukraine, not Russia, who hacked our 2016 election. When Trump pulled U.S. troops out of northern Syria, he turned over abandoned American bases to the Russians...

...Forget that whole “sneaking Sally through the alley” thing Trump pulled with the Russians in 2016. Even during the week the House Judiciary Committee voted to impeach him for trying to strong-arm yet another foreign government into damaging one of his political opponents, Trump met privately with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov in the Oval Office. He’s not even trying to hide it anymore. The Republican Party is right there with him.


Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon Dec 16, 2019, 12:21 AM (2 replies)

Two peas in a pod: Abortion restrictionists and gun control advocates, part deux

Both prohibitionist groups have revived the thesis of my original post- by getting up to the
same sort of dishonest horseshit that prompted the original OP:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/117235299

https://www.democraticunderground.com/117235299#post26

'True believers' of all sorts are more alike than different-not that they'll ever admit it...

It's hardly a new or original observation- it is the underlying thesis of Eric Hoffer's The True Believer: Thoughts On The Nature Of Mass Movements

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer

...The book analyzes and attempts to explain the motives of the various types of personalities that give rise to mass movements; why and how mass movements start, progress and end; and the similarities between them, whether religious, political, radical or reactionary. As examples, the book often refers to Communism, Fascism, National Socialism, Christianity, Protestantism, and Islam. Hoffer believes that mass movements are interchangeable, that adherents will often flip from one movement to another, and that the motivations for mass movements are interchangeable; that religious, nationalist and social movements, whether radical or reactionary, tend to attract the same type of followers, behave in the same way and use the same tactics, even when their stated goals or values differed.


First, the gun prohibition side is heard from

https://www.democraticunderground.com/126213486


Children are murded in schools because of a Constitutional Amendment that makes it easy to murder children in schools.

...And to be fair, the Second Amendment, in my view, was never intended to allow for personal, in home ownership of guns by everyone. But Antonin Scalia, that darling of the so-called originalist school, claimed to find that right hidden in the actual words of an Amendment that never mentions any such right...


Ahem. What Scalia actually said was, with added emphasis:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf


(2) Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp. 54–56.


And the writer of the immediately proceeding item knew Scalia wrote this-

because they also wrote post 16 below

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1172208076#post7

Scalia specifically said that the 2A allows strict gun control

According to him, the only right you have is to own a handgun in your own home. That is all.




Much of the linked thread is taken up by a persistent argument that a (so far) nonexistant court precedent is the true
and only interpretation of the Second Amendment.

Now onto the 'abortion safety' movement:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142401723


Ohio bill orders doctors to 'reimplant ectopic pregnancy' or face 'abortion murder' charges
Source: theguardian.com

A bill to ban abortion introduced in the Ohio state legislature requires doctors to “reimplant an ectopic pregnancy” into a woman’s uterus – a procedure that does not exist in medical science – or face charges of “abortion murder”.

This is the second time practising obstetricians and gynecologists have tried to tell the Ohio legislators that the idea is currently medically impossible...



Some things just never seem to change very much, do they?


Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon Dec 2, 2019, 06:27 AM (2 replies)

To me, Trump and his claque are the 'Kompromat Kids', now and forevermore

And I pledge to use this phrase as often as possible, and urge you to do so as well.

Make Putin *every* Republican's running mate!
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Wed Nov 27, 2019, 08:42 PM (1 replies)

When he talks, Lindsey Graham sweats and grins like a dog trying to shit a peach pit...

...sideways

No doubt he's very aware that his craven toadying towards Trump is merely delaying his downfall.

Once Lindsey has outlasted his usefulness to Vladimir Vladimirovitch, out will come the kompromat
and away will go Lindsey...


H/t to the great Stephen King for the title line- it's from the first Dark Tower book

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Wed Nov 27, 2019, 08:11 PM (4 replies)

The sole and only difference I can see between Lavrenti Beria and Bill Barr is...

Beria was an ephebophile who was a ruthless henchman for a megalomaniac

Bill Barr is a ruthless henchman for an ephebophile megalomaniac
Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon Nov 25, 2019, 01:51 PM (3 replies)

Bloomberg Is Starting His Campaign With A Big Asset--His Gun-Control Group's Email List

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/11/michael-bloomberg-2020-everytown-moms-demand-action-guns-emails/

Bloomberg Is Starting His Campaign With A Big Asset—His Gun-Control Group’s Email List

His campaign is “temporarily renting” the addresses of Moms Demand Action’s supporters.


Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg officially entered the 2020 Democratic race Sunday with a potent asset: The vast trove of email addresses amassed by Moms Demand Action, the nonpartisan gun control advocacy organization hosted under the umbrella of Everytown for Gun Safety, which Bloomberg co-founded and largely finances.

The leaders of Moms Demand Action state chapters and local groups received the news from Aimee Tavares, a senior national organizing director for the group, who sent an email roughly three and a half hours after news broke that Bloomberg would formally announce his candidacy. “Given his unique role in launching Everytown, his leadership in advancing the cause of gun safety, and the significant investments he’s made in helping to grow our movement, Mayor Bloomberg’s campaign is temporarily renting access to our list of supporters so they can communicate his plans for achieving our shared goal of a nation free from gun violence,” Tavares wrote.

Tavares added the campaign would not retain access to Moms Demand Action’s email list at the conclusion of Bloomberg’s bid. Members of the group would be “under no obligation to take any action” in response to Bloomberg’s campaign missives, and that “it is entirely up to our volunteers how they spend their volunteer time in this election and which candidates they choose to support, up and down the ballot,” she wrote.

Tavares’ email gave no endorsement of Bloomberg’s candidacy, but noted that “his participation will ensure that our issue remains at the forefront during the remainder of primary season.” In a Twitter thread announcing his candidacy, Bloomberg shared that he had “founded the largest gun safety group in history” alongside a photo of him posing with Moms Demand Action volunteers.



Real cute, Mike- pretending to 'rent' information that he owns lock, stock, and barrel (pun intended).
Who do he and Tavares think they're kidding?

Moms Demand Action is as utterly dependent on and controlled by Mike Bloomberg as Bill Barr is on Trump.

Called it here at DU a week ago:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1172209099

...but undoubtedly his campaign underlings have access to every contact MAIG/MMM/
Everytown for Gun Safety/MDA have or ever had, and are trawling them as I write this.

No doubt Bloomie will poll well with the quiet (and some not-so-quiet) suburban racists that either
approved (or simply elided) his stop-and-frisk policies and racism towards Muslims



H/t to DUer demmiblue for posting this originally...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287358743

And to Mother Jones reporter Kara Voght, who broke the story:

https://twitter.com/karavoght/status/1198961001993064448

ICYMI, scoop from me last night:

@MikeBloomberg's campaign is renting the huge email list for @MomsDemand—the grassroots arm of gun control group @Everytown, which Bloomberg co-founded and funds—to build support for his late entrance into the 2020 race




Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Mon Nov 25, 2019, 12:44 PM (3 replies)

Two cases near me (MA) show that ghost guns are now far past the 'zip gun' stage:

The first account is from Springfield, and has a pic at the link of what seems to be a competently finished CZ75
knockoff:

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/Suspect-Shouts-Baby-Im-Going-to-Jail-During-Drug-Gun-Arrest-512532881.html


While searching the car, state police said they found small baggies consistent with how heroin is packaged and a large amount of cash. They also located a black semi-automatic handgun on the floor near the driver's seat. The gun had a high-capacity magazine loaded with 15 9mm rounds and had no markings or serial number, consistent with what is referred to as a "Ghost Gun." These firearms cannot be traced and are illegal.


https://www.enterprisenews.com/news/20191030/east-bridgewater-raid-result-of-ongoing-motorcycle-gang-feud

...Agents then executed a federal search warrant and found at least a dozen “large airsoft style weapons that had the appearance of real weapons” in his garage.

In a workshop area, agents found a hidden compartment with two milling plates, which serve “as a template to drill out a receiving for a firearm,” the affidavit states. They located a buffer spring, a firearm part used to assist with recoil of a rifle, and buffer tube, a piece of a rifle that the buffer spring fits inside, it states.

In a hidden compartment, agents say they found an AR-15 styled rifle “ghost gun,” one without any manufacturing or serial numbers to allow it to be traced.

Posted by friendly_iconoclast | Thu Nov 21, 2019, 05:21 PM (1 replies)
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