Ok, let me offer you this

Yes, no one was directly hung from a tree as a result of the Tea party. granted, everytime there has been a shooting, especially a racially motivated one (like tray martin) they have been apolgiosts and enablers. Yes, they have called for the killing of liberals, openly advocated crimes ranging from tax cheating to "second amendment remedies." and it is funny how many lone wolf gunmen types seem to be influenced by them, but you are right, they have not lynched anyone we know of.

Of course, the fact that the KKK did do open crimes is what forced even a diehard commie hater like Jeb Hoover to crack down on them. Now, they just supress votes in secret, and wrap their demands in smooth propaganda. Nevermind the fact that, by cutting medical care, food stamps, other social services and advocating wars, they may very well have killed more Americans than the KKK ever did, to say nothing of foriegners, something the KKK did not get to do.

Yes, I understand you want to be logi.cal, sane, clam, and yes, most of the time, that is good, but even the most self-defense oriented martial artist knows that you cannot always dodge combat, especially when the opponent does not care about reason. Add to this the massive funding by Billionaires, that thanks to the Supreme court, we are not even allowed to count.

I am NOT saying we all need to be a Ted Rall or Alan Grayson. What I am saying is that we need ALL TYPES, those who can offer to sit down and talk at a table, and those who, when they see the GOP is pulling a gun out of the pocket, will tackle the SOB. Part of the reason we are in our mess is, for all of their foolishness, the GOP realized they needed many types of people, with many types of methods, from the clear voiced genteel types to the wild fringe. We on the left have fallen too much in love with a self image that says "we are above that." Once the enemy realizes you are stuck in a rigid method, they do what we did to the british redcoats; watch for their patterns and blast them apart. We have been the rigid army that may have resoruces, but refused to deal with guerilla warfare, which a lot of tea party action is.

Avtion, this is not meant as disrespect. I am just very tired of seeing my comrades get blasted apart because they insist that their sharp knife will beat the GOP snipers.

GROOWL!

(Disclaimer, the following is a Florida Democrat venting at one of the main reasons why the Florida Democrats suck, which is why Florida tends to suck! Those offended may want to turn away now.)

OK Debbie, let's talk.

I was willing to swallow my pride when they gave you the job that should be Howard Dean's. After all, anytime a Democratic woman is in power, it does make the GOP go ape, which makes them easier prey. I was willing to forget all those times you supported arch GOP Nazis like your "good friends" Mario Diaz-Balart and Illeana Ros=Lethen, two GOP who helped the party take over the state by running liberals out of South Florida. I was willing to forget they way you helped backstab Kendrick Meek by supporting Charlie Crist "I am not a democrat yet" senate run, which of course pandered to many in South Florida still angry that Hillary was not coronated, and wanted to avenge their fury by voting for the white guy. Of course, Marco Rubio and the Tea party are still smoking cigars and thanking you for letting Meek be thrown to the PUMAS. Yes, I was willing to choke all of thos down, the fact that with your willingness to defend the GOP, and stifle anyone that challenged their utter dominace of this state, for the good of the party as a whole.

However, you attacked someone who is not merely one of the few liberal voices in Florida, but also in the nation. I see this pattern too many times, and I saw it when he was getting challenged, where you did not lift one finger to help a DEMOCRAT keep a precious seat in congress. The fact is Debbie, you are the very example of a DINO: democrat in name only. What is sad is that you kiss up to the very people that, when you are up for election, will use every damned trick in the book, and will have you burnt at the stake!

Debbie, my dear, you are a disgrace. I know you are already talking about Hillary in 2016. Let's just say you are one more symbol of the forces the real democrats will use when we primary Hillary, and any other DINO who has abused our capacity for patience and self-sacrfice.

None dare call it treason

I am one to savor victories, but let us not overlook what the GOP has really done. Back in 2001, a llot of the world was already weary of America; W's wars pouyred acid into the wounds, and this charade has done far worse. The next century willnot be the American century, as the rest of the world has good reason to distrust us.

I am not saying it will be a Chinese one either, as they have their own house of cards. While I try not to be too Western centric, I will also admit that the idea of the Chinese, Russians, or some bizarre new league does not bode well.

Would the right wing be stupid enough to do this again?

Yes.

Hell, half of these idiots think the Civil War is still winnable. Even after both Bushes were defeated, even after the weapons were not in Iraq, they kept going, because they have mastered the art of cognitive dissonance, or in other words, shutting off their brain.

We do need to celebrate, but we need to keep fighting. Even if the GOP imploded, some creeps, exploiting the worst of our national demons, would try and make a right wing (libertarians, I am looking at your Ayn Rand loving ass, and your buddies in "no labels.&quot

Victory? Between Champagne and Depression

OK, I will say that we should celebrate the fact the GOP backed down. If we do not celebrate and remember the times we won, we have no spirit for the fight.

However two points

1)this was a battle, not a war. The GOp will try this again, and they will try to make an election issue, and all the rich bastards that say they are worried will still pour money out. This is the setup for 2014 and 2016, battles the GOP MUST LOSE!

2) The Democrats are still way way way to the right. We need to use this to drag them back, and not let the people who want "the center" to regain their hold on the microphone.

Keep the boot on the Elephant's throat!

The GOp knows that we, as Americans, and yes Demcorats, love to forget the hell they put us through. Now is not the time to Relax, but it is time to put pressure, on everyone, to not only stay the course, but put the pedal to the metal. The GOP is bleeding, and the last thing we want is for them to heal. Likewise, now is also the time for leftists to put pressure on the center, which will also try to heal. We must demand the tilt of the axis goes elftward, especially as frankly, the left has been proven right.

Ruth: Tea party is over for big business Republicans

cue the people that say "harry reid is not that bad"

3...2...1

If the folks at McDonalds did their job as badly as reid did his, you would order a Big Mac and instead get a $100 dollar gift certificate to Burger King.

An Exec order to save the nation, can Tony Scalia stop it

A lot of people are askign why Obama does not mint the trillion dollar coin, or drop the 14th amendment. My own idea, which I offer up for discussion, is that everybody knows the fix is in from the Spuremes, the same assholes that got us Bush V Gore. If Obama tried to do an EO, what could Fat Tony and his gang do, and what can they NOT do?

Who is the biggest sleazball GOP Governor

I of course,vote for my own Rick Scott (FL), but I am sure there are some other candidates.

So who is the sleaziest GOP Governor and why?