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April 5, 2013

Yes, it was in response...

to the Muslim women counterprotester thread.

April 5, 2013

Yep...

was just talking about the threads in question. But yes, Christian feminists are engaging in the same mental gymnastics, intellectual dishonesty, and cognitive dissonance to reconcile their belief system with their feminism.

April 5, 2013

Yes...

All Christian and Muslim women who claim to not be misogynists are engaging in mind-boggling intellectual dishonesty and cognitive dissonance. They go through the worst logical hoops to try to fit their views with a belief system that is misogynist.

I suspect that's a large part of the problem the world faces in making cultural advances. All this baggage that makes it impossible for people to be even halfway honest with themselves.

April 5, 2013

Amen...

If you're a Muslim woman, your holy book is misogynist, your belief system is misogynist. If you're not a misogynist, then stop engaging in cognitive dissonance and intellectual dishonesty and stop being a Muslim. That simple.

April 5, 2013

Muslim women are by their own beliefs...

subservient. It's all over their belief system. Any who say otherwise are engaging in cognitive dissonance and intellectual dishonesty. It's like identifying with the KKK and saying you aren't racist.

April 5, 2013

If you are a Muslim woman...

and not engaging in cognitive dissonance or intellectual dishonesty, you indeed believe in being subservient to men, according to your own belief system. I suspect cognitive dissonance and intellectual dishonesty are at play here.

No, one can never "inherit" beliefs. One is indoctrinated into beliefs, and calling it tradition doesn't change that fact.

I have no idea what the point of the counterprotest is.

April 5, 2013

No...

A person is either an atheist or a theist. There are agnostic atheists and agnostic theists. Agnosticism deals with knowledge, not belief.

This video explains it well.

April 5, 2013

Atheists simply lack belief in god/gods...

they do no necessarily positively assert that there is no god, quite a few just say they don't know but they think it very unlikely, but of course that comes down to what you define as god. Some definitions of god are so vague and meaningless it's pretty illogical to say that you have a belief it doesn't exist, rather than being more honest and saying you don't know.

When it comes to specific gods of religions, like the god of the Bible, there is a lot of evidence, due to the numerious specific claims made, that that very specific god does not exist, and saying so is not "blind faith" at all, but based on the contradictions of the text and the plentiful evidence that the text is wrong on many claims it makes.

April 5, 2013

They need a better strawman and some logic...

"Muslim heritage"? Seriously? Kinda says it all. When you're willing to engage in one sort of cognitive dissonance and intellectual dishonesty, you'll engage in all sorts. Now a belief system is inherent at birth, and FEMEN protesting with nudity is forcing Muslim women to do so as well?

I mean, yeah, I guess FEMEN doesn't represent subservient religious women who want to stay that way. That's the whole point.

Reminds me of moderate Republicans who come to the Democratic Party and demand that the Democrats moderate their message.

April 4, 2013

A "special" role...

where you're treated like a second-class citizen and excluded from any leadership whatsoever.

Now, that's special! What woman doesn't glow with pride at being told that by the Pope?

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