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September 10, 2015

Evidence justifies expulsion for Michigan Reps. Courser and Gamrat, says committee chair

Source: MLive Politics

LANSING, MI — The case against embattled Michigan Reps. Todd Courser and Cindy Gamrat is strong enough to kick both out of office, according to the chair of a committee that may decide their political fate.

"I believe that the evidence is sufficient to justify expulsion for both members," Rep. Ed McBroom, R-Vulcan, said Wednesday evening.

Courser and Garmat, tea party Republicans from Lapeer and Plainwell, are accused of engaging in misconduct and misusing taxpayer resources to hide their extra-marital affair.

Both lawmakers have accepted key findings of the report -- admitting some wrongdoing -- but have asked their colleagues to censure rather than expel them.

McBroom introduced four separate resolutions on Wednesday afternoon to either expel or censure Courser or Gamrat. The select committee, formed to consider their qualification to remain in office, is likely to consider them Thursday.

"I expect to have some discussion with members in the committee and see where they're leaning, what their pleasure is and what they want to do next," McBroom said.

Brock Swartzle, in his capacity as general counsel for the Michigan House, has recommended that lawmakers expel Courser but censure Garmat, describing her as an accomplice to some misconduct but a principal actor in other instances.

McBroom indicated a belief that her actions still warrant expulsion, but it's up to committee members and the full House to decide. Expelling a member would require a 2/3 supermajority on the floor.


Read more: http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2015/09/evidence_justifies_expulsion_f.html#incart_river



And now onto the 2/3rd Vote of the Michigan House. Cindy and Todd MUST Get the He** Out Of OUR HOUSE!!! The Last State Representative or State Senator removed from office was another REPUBLICAN, David Jaye in 2001 and only three State Legislators in Michigan's Government history -- have been Expelled.
September 4, 2015

Go To Jail, Go Directly To Jail, Do Not Pass Go or Pay $200 --- The Story of Kim Davis.

Excuse moi as a slight rant will take place here. Can we have EVERYONE take a course in High School Civics?

As one of many Public Elected Officials (in a really small office -- here withstanding) this madness must STOP.

Right Here! Pull over the Clown Car and Jump Out.

No Public Elected Official has ANY rights to pick and choose laws they will abide by, PERIOD. END OF STORY. DONE|.

Why?

FIRST the Supremacy Clause: Article 6 -- U.S. Constitution which reads as follows:

"ARTICLE VI
DEBTS, SUPREMACY, OATHS, RELIGIOUS TESTS
Signed in convention September 17, 1787. Ratified June 21, 1788.

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."


Some words in particular are highlighted above....."Religious Test".

There is no Religious Test required to be a public official, it is expected and required a public official to do their duty or execute their duty. Even the "So Help Me God" phase can be removed from a Oath of Office -- if one so choose.

NEXT, the Oath of Office: Which can be different based on States or Local Versions, however the basic meanings are the same:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of this state, and that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office of .......... according to the best of my ability."


And then it says in this text:
No other oath, affirmation, or any religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust
.

Sample from the Michigan Constitution of 1963: http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(mgfsv055eaidzrnqwidp5fng))/documents/mcl/pdf/mcl-constitution-xi.pdf

Kim Davis and her marry band of clueless followers have NOTHING TO STAND ON. Either she can RESIGN in PROTEST, be RECALLED from office, be FORCED to COMPLY or be REMOVED from OFFICE by a higher authority (normally a State Legislative Body) -- which has to comply with the Supremacy Clause.

That's it, that's all.

This is a simple Lesson in Civics 101. If your personal beliefs counteract an ability to do a job for citizens of your community, county, state or federal public elected office --- RESIGN, LEAVE, GET OUT.

But no Public Elected Official gets to pick and choose which Laws of our Land they will comply with and LGBT Marriage and Issuing Certificates for LGBT Couples to get married, is the Law of the Land.

Finished!

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