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Rightwingers are so predictable

Offensive offense is the only defense they have for everything, including and especially after literally being found with their pants down. This almost always includes but is not limited to, charging the opposition with what they are the most if not exclusively guilty of.

We've all seen countless examples of it. The most recent biggy that comes to mind is the way BHO/dems are waging "class warfare".

Quite frankly, the first thing that came to mind when I read about this case, was that their main idea and effort behind the resurrection of Wright was to help alleviate the fear and potential/likely loathing many in their rank ranks have over the Mutt and his Mormonism. What better way to alleviate that burden in significant part than to keep the dialogue focused on some scary black guy instead? That would keep his Mormonism outta sight of the mindless, or in the alternative, present a rather stark "lesser of two evils" choice And for many of them, that would be a no-brainer http://www.slate.com/articles/life/faithbased/2012/03/mormon_church_and_racism_a_new_controversy_about_old_teachings_.html based on a "most like me" standard.

RNC Chairman Says Republican Proposal For $10 Million Of Race-Baiting Anti-Obama Attack Ads Is Obama’s Fault
By Josh Israel posted from ThinkProgress Election on May 20, 2012 at 12:00 pm

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus
In an interview on CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley this morning, host Crowley asked RNC Chairman Reince Priebus about a widely-denounced proposal for a pro-Mitt Romney outside group to run millions of dollars in race-baiting attack ads highlighting controversial statement’s by President Obama’s former pastor.

Rather than denounce the proposal or the dangers of having a small group of rich outside donors and corporations free to spend as much as they want to influence elections, Priebus blamed Obama.


no he's not

he's going to one his choices built.

As a father who won custody of his child 25 years ago in a state where such was by far the exception, I never saw a dime of the 15 dollars a week ordered, or my state notifying the state in which she's dwelt since as is required by law -- so I have my own "injustice" issues to whine about. And to make things even worse, after he reached the age of majority I sued and got a judgement based on that figure with the help of the state, under the Fed Title IV as I recall (which all this stuff falls under), only to have the state subsequently close the case and collection efforts contrary to the law as well, since that can only be done by either them collecting it, or my signing off on it. Of course these "closings" are what underlie the awarding of more "block grants" from feds to the state, so it is really a fraud being perpetrated in cases like this, which I'd love to pursue as a Qui Tam action, but haven't for reasons I won't bore you with here.

So for those here calling it a "racket", I wholeheartedly agree.

Having said that, of course the burden the court imposed on my ex is in no way comparable to that imposed upon him, but as a parent, his first duty and responsibility is to his children. Granting they were apparently not wanting of anything, assuming his stuff about his ex and her good fortune of finding a provider are true, that in no way eliminates his responsibility any more than my ability to provide for my son without the assistance of my ex eliminated hers.

Furthermore, given that he likely had at some point in time, legal counsel that informed him of the ramifications of his actions -- or inaction in this case -- the whole thing it would seem, rests upon whether he was making what the court would see as a good faith effort to follow its edicts. Without having the court record at our disposal to weigh and judge the facts in the matter, this isn't a matter of a "he said/she said" thing between him and his wife, but rather between him and the state/court.

As much as I'm inclined to as a victim of state/court chicanery (albeit of a different kind -- no punishment for my deadbeat ex) to offer sympathy and empathy for his plight, I'm also as a victim of a deadbeat parent who knows intimately the BS they spew in defense of themselves while excluding any sense of duty or responsibility to the child, inclined to say say in the absence of a full airing and therefore knowledge of all the facts, that it is totally legitimate for those who think it stinks under a "smell test" here, to call his big emotional appeal stinky.

As a result of all of this, imo you and the rest here that are basing your stuff and outrage based solely on his "version" of facts in the matter are on no better footing to defend it than those who're promoting the opposing "deadbeat dad getting what he deserves" pov, and it's hardly worth the measure of interpersonal conflict and discord I see resulting from what is in the final analysis, a "We really don't KNOW" situation.

But by all means, have at it. Reading the fights is much more entertaining than "dittos"..lol

High cohesion and borg-like unity is common in a cult, so that isn't something they do well

they have no choice, kinda like the fish swimming, water being wet, or us breathing.

It's the means by which they collectively escape the shame that the individual units are constantly warding off by the same means, through the miracle of ego preservation by way of denial.

After all, if you collectively had such a spectacularly successful record at failure -- what they do "the best" -- your "choices" are extremely limited, and confined to either owning up to them, or doing what we see them do daily anymore, which is lie, scapegoat, deflect, project, etc. We see this done by their high priests you witnessed, all the way down to the lowliest and most stupid rightwingnut trolls.

I've read a great deal of late about "The republican brain" and the various efforts to explain the underlying causes for the obnoxious outward behavior you're describing here, and to me the loathing and disgust they make apparent with efforts like this is key to understanding that it is avoidance of self-disgust and loathing behind a great deal if not most of it. This is why so much of that which they direct at BHO and liberals/lefties generally is totally fabricated, and often something they are the most if not exclusively guilty of -- because they know they can't win by honest means, or by putting their record into a debate on the merits, given it is one of countless and gross failures, as well as full of violations of the xtian ethics they only pay lip service to as largely weekend warriors. Their complete abandonment of the 9th Commandment as seen in their granting license for decades now, to their pols and pundits to lie without fear of any financial or political reprisal, represents irrefutable testimony to and substantiation of the charge that they think that liars occupy the moral high ground.

I never had any trouble providing the facts and reasons for my loathing and disgust for say, the unindicted war criminal and burning Bush, but as we see daily, they have to fuel their loathing and disgust with BS. I suppose if I was stupid enough to have voted for a Bush twice, I'd be seeking validation of and vindication for it in the manner they do to. That's the reason why their loathing and disgust with BHO is way outta proportion with facts to support it -- their fresh memories of the many and varied failures they wholly supported and championed with Bush, that the historical record now shows to have been failures and stupid in the extreme, except to their monied masters that profited from it.

They and their minions as I've long argued it, are similar to and often easily confused with, their ideological cousins the Nazis, in terms of the dynamics here. The only difference is, rather than being guilty of something of the type and on the scale of the Holocaust, their "Big Lie" techniques have only resulted in the death and displacement of millions of Iraqis abroad, and the perpetuation and increasing of human misery here at home for the "others". This is why I started arguing a decade or more now, that the twin towers were almost immediately replaced with the dark twin towers of apathy and ignorance that have only steadily grown since.

This is also why some of their worst critics like Frum, Stockman, Shaeffer, etc -- those who broke away from the cult -- relish their work so, because it provides a sorta penance for their sins as former participants in the cult, and works as a kinda ego and soul salve for what they have accepted as their guilt.

The simple fact of the matter is, unless and until their minions crash into the wall of reality in sufficeint enough numbers -- like the German people seeing photos of the death camps -- they are gonna continue doubling down on the apathy and ignorance, and all the various dishonest means they have to maintain the political status quo. I think a great deal of their more recent madness and escalations in this regard, is due to the awareness on the part of their masters, that issues like jobs, health care, and the looming crisis of global warming, are gonna require "socialistic" solutions, and the looming brown demographic wave threatens their hold on political power, and will see to it that ideas about social justice are pursued and enforced.

The con rats are titanic failures http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/05/05/33-quotes/ , and are merely trying to secure as big a life raft as they can before their ship goes down. It's never been the failure of BHO or lefties they've feared and loathed, but rather their successes, because they always have the undesirable side effect of whittling away at both their money pile and the political power they wield with it. That kinda governing is never a problem.

And all their lying, etc, is merely how the selfish, self-centered, greedy and power hungry, keep themselves, and more importantly their needed minions, keep themselves convinced they are the "moral" ones. "Morality and politics are inseparable" said St. Raygun, and morality in turn, is what spawns the loathing and disgust behind all of their "divider", etc BS.

It's the wrong time to be on the right, because I'm convinced that their time is short, and events are gonna widen the self-created hole in their "good" ship Lolli-Flop, because they have no solutions to the many aforementioned problems that plague us of largely their creation.

good post by the way

It only goes to show you all the "good work" done by that "in the tank for BHO/liberal media" no?

indeed, that's been obvious for years

and was recently demonstrated http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/04/10/150349438/gops-rightward-shift-higher-polarization-fills-political-scientist-with-dread

That was the whole point of the creation of the Pee Party imo, to drag the already well off center ideological dividing line farther to the right, and the dems, including BHO, have been unwilling or unable to avoid being dragged along in that direction. One can reasonably argue that this is due to the hostage taking, etc of the party of "NO!" , but I doubt that it can be sustained on the merits. For example, the recent story about Pelosi and SS/Medicare is really old news. http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/10/27/pelosi-signals-her-willingness-to-cut-medicare-and-social-security-benefits/

The simple fact of the matter is, DC is opreated as if the myth of us being center/right nation is the reality, when of course, we aren't. https://www.google.com/search?q=myth+of+center%2Fright&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGHP_en

This is precisely what underlies the Occupy/99%er movement. We've had a faux duopoloy in DC for decades now, and as I've argued it for better than a decade now, it's better seen as a good cop/bad cop, janus-like condition in DC, leaving us all with an endless stream of "lesser of two evils" choices with every federal election.

Watch The Wrath of Occupy live


and see the determination chiseled into/onto their faces by the power of justice and unity, and of course, the successes they've already enjoyed.

The Occupy Wall Street movement’s success can be measured in part by how public opinion has changed about such issues as corporate profits, widening inequality and excessive executive compensation. By last December, two months after the first occupations at Zuccotti Park, 77 percent of Americans—and 53 percent of Republicans—agreed that “there is too much power in the hands of a few rich people and corporations,” according to a Pew Research Center survey. The Pew study also found that 61 percent of Americans believe that “the economic system in this country unfairly favors the wealthy” and that 57 percent think that wealthy people don’t pay their fair share of taxes. Most of these people won’t be found protesting in the streets, but the nation’s changing mood clearly influences what candidates for office and elected officials think they need to do to satisfy public opinion.


I wonder what flip flops in terms of policy or focus they'll cause in the politcal class and world going forward, and especially now that all the austerity programs here and there have turned into such flops?
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