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January 17, 2020
Warren and Bernie try to move on as conflict shakes 2020 primary
Politico
But fully exorcising the spat that led to their post-debate confrontation is proving more difficult than simply saying its over.
By ALEX THOMPSON and HOLLY OTTERBEIN
01/16/2020 08:01 PM EST
Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren dont want to talk about it.
I have no further comment on this, Warren told reporters Thursday. Sanders didnt want any part of it either, staying quiet as reporters pelted him with questions, while his campaign circulated a set of new talking points, obtained by POLITICO, that read: Please refrain from commenting on the CNN story on the meeting between Bernie and Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Goal: Take the high road, it added.
Warren and Sanders' presidential campaigns are publicly taking steps to move on from the feuding of the past week, after trading accusations of calling the other a liar in a tense hot-mic conversation following Tuesdays debate. But its proving more difficult than either would like, thanks to months of quietly escalating tensions that suddenly boiled over this week. Even as Sanders and Warren mostly laid off each other earlier this year, many in Warren's orbit privately seethed over escalating, thinly veiled criticism from Sanders' top aides and surrogates, while some Sanders supporters have viewed Warren with disdain since she declined to join their cause in 2016.
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But fully exorcising the spat that led to their post-debate confrontation is proving more difficult than simply saying its over.
By ALEX THOMPSON and HOLLY OTTERBEIN
01/16/2020 08:01 PM EST
Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren dont want to talk about it.
I have no further comment on this, Warren told reporters Thursday. Sanders didnt want any part of it either, staying quiet as reporters pelted him with questions, while his campaign circulated a set of new talking points, obtained by POLITICO, that read: Please refrain from commenting on the CNN story on the meeting between Bernie and Sen. Elizabeth Warren.
Goal: Take the high road, it added.
Warren and Sanders' presidential campaigns are publicly taking steps to move on from the feuding of the past week, after trading accusations of calling the other a liar in a tense hot-mic conversation following Tuesdays debate. But its proving more difficult than either would like, thanks to months of quietly escalating tensions that suddenly boiled over this week. Even as Sanders and Warren mostly laid off each other earlier this year, many in Warren's orbit privately seethed over escalating, thinly veiled criticism from Sanders' top aides and surrogates, while some Sanders supporters have viewed Warren with disdain since she declined to join their cause in 2016.
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more great political journalism at the link
January 16, 2020
Sanders-Warren dispute jolts Bernie's base into action
Politico
This is not what Sanders and his campaign want to be talking about, said one Democrat.
By MARC CAPUTO
01/15/2020 06:59 PM EST
Updated: 01/15/2020 09:43 PM EST
ven by the standards of Bernie Sanders fundraising juggernaut, Tuesday was a big day: He raised $1.7 million from more than 100,000 small-dollar donors, his biggest debate-day haul of the 2020 campaign.
Sanders debate performance wasnt the driving force behind the outpouring of cash. Rather, it was largely a response to his recent tensions with long-time ally Elizabeth Warren a show of support and defiance that provides a window into the loyalty and motivation of Sanders grassroots base.
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After the debate, Sanders campaign co-chair, Nina Turner, fumed to reporters about faux feminism. Online, other supporters called Warren a liar and brought up her mistatements about having Native American ancestry. And they pointed out that Sanders who has publicly advocated for women to be president for years received more money from female donors than any other Democratic presidential candidate.
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This is not what Sanders and his campaign want to be talking about, said one Democrat.
By MARC CAPUTO
01/15/2020 06:59 PM EST
Updated: 01/15/2020 09:43 PM EST
ven by the standards of Bernie Sanders fundraising juggernaut, Tuesday was a big day: He raised $1.7 million from more than 100,000 small-dollar donors, his biggest debate-day haul of the 2020 campaign.
Sanders debate performance wasnt the driving force behind the outpouring of cash. Rather, it was largely a response to his recent tensions with long-time ally Elizabeth Warren a show of support and defiance that provides a window into the loyalty and motivation of Sanders grassroots base.
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After the debate, Sanders campaign co-chair, Nina Turner, fumed to reporters about faux feminism. Online, other supporters called Warren a liar and brought up her mistatements about having Native American ancestry. And they pointed out that Sanders who has publicly advocated for women to be president for years received more money from female donors than any other Democratic presidential candidate.
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more at link
January 15, 2020
Poitico: The winners, losers and biggest takeaways from the Iowa debate
Politico
Here's what surprised us and what will have the biggest impact from the last debate before Iowa's caucuses.
By POLITICO STAFF
01/15/2020 12:35 AM EST
DES MOINES, Iowa The Democratic presidential candidates had one last chance to contrast themselves on national TV before the Iowa caucuses. And in between slams of President Donald Trump, they delivered.
Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders traded criticisms of their long records on trade, foreign policy and health care. Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar reprised their December clash about experience in the Oval Office. And Elizabeth Warren turned a question about her allegation that Sanders said a woman couldnt beat Trump a comment Sanders has repeatedly denied making into a call to recognize female political power in the Democratic Party.
What did we learn? We asked four POLITICO campaign reporters Laura Barrón-López, Natasha Korecki, Holly Otterbein and David Siders for their takeaways from the two-hour showdown.
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Here's what surprised us and what will have the biggest impact from the last debate before Iowa's caucuses.
By POLITICO STAFF
01/15/2020 12:35 AM EST
DES MOINES, Iowa The Democratic presidential candidates had one last chance to contrast themselves on national TV before the Iowa caucuses. And in between slams of President Donald Trump, they delivered.
Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders traded criticisms of their long records on trade, foreign policy and health care. Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar reprised their December clash about experience in the Oval Office. And Elizabeth Warren turned a question about her allegation that Sanders said a woman couldnt beat Trump a comment Sanders has repeatedly denied making into a call to recognize female political power in the Democratic Party.
What did we learn? We asked four POLITICO campaign reporters Laura Barrón-López, Natasha Korecki, Holly Otterbein and David Siders for their takeaways from the two-hour showdown.
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opinions at link
January 15, 2020
Sanders camp admits anti-Warren script was deployed in multiple early states
Politico
Sanders initially attributed the talking points to rogue staffers, and supporters launched an online campaign to convince people the document was fake.
By ALEX THOMPSON and HOLLY OTTERBEIN
01/14/2020 05:06 PM EST
Updated: 01/14/2020 05:50 PM EST
DES MOINES, Iowa The controversial talking points attacking Elizabeth Warren that Bernie Sanders' campaign deployed were given to teams in at least two early voting states on Friday, three Sanders campaign officials confirmed.
Volunteers and staffers used the script on Saturday while canvassing for votes, meaning the talking points were more official than what Sanders previously suggested after POLITICO reported on the language.
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The script mostly focused on Sanders' ability to beat President Donald Trump in a general election. But one page included attacks on the electability of Warren, as well as Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg.
The language was pulled because it was sloppily worded, a Sanders official said, confirming that the script was an official campaign document.
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Sanders initially attributed the talking points to rogue staffers, and supporters launched an online campaign to convince people the document was fake.
By ALEX THOMPSON and HOLLY OTTERBEIN
01/14/2020 05:06 PM EST
Updated: 01/14/2020 05:50 PM EST
DES MOINES, Iowa The controversial talking points attacking Elizabeth Warren that Bernie Sanders' campaign deployed were given to teams in at least two early voting states on Friday, three Sanders campaign officials confirmed.
Volunteers and staffers used the script on Saturday while canvassing for votes, meaning the talking points were more official than what Sanders previously suggested after POLITICO reported on the language.
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The script mostly focused on Sanders' ability to beat President Donald Trump in a general election. But one page included attacks on the electability of Warren, as well as Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg.
The language was pulled because it was sloppily worded, a Sanders official said, confirming that the script was an official campaign document.
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more at link
January 14, 2020
The coming clash between Bernie and Biden
Politico
The former vice presidents record on Social Security is about to be torn open by Sanders.
By MARC CAPUTO and HOLLY OTTERBEIN
01/13/2020 07:02 PM EST
Bernie Sanders first major tangle with Joe Biden over a 2010 deal that Biden struck with Republicans that liberals believed threatened Social Security helped fuel his national rise.
Now Sanders is set to reprise that clash Tuesday night on the debate stage, where the Vermont senator is preparing to lay into Biden over his record on Social Security.
For the past week, Sanders and his campaign have telegraphed his attack over the former vice presidents long-standing record entertaining cuts to the program that are anathema to progressives and many mainstream Democrats.
Sanders speechwriter and senior adviser David Sirota said Tuesday will be time for Biden to answer hard questions about his past onstage.
Joe Biden has repeatedly worked to cut Social Security, and has never offered up a good explanation for that crusade. His Social Security record is not only atrocious on a policy level, it is an enormous political vulnerability in both a primary and a general election, Sirota said. Bernie Sanders has exactly the opposite record hes fought those cuts and fought to expand Social Security, and that is a contrast Democratic voters deserve to know.
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The former vice presidents record on Social Security is about to be torn open by Sanders.
By MARC CAPUTO and HOLLY OTTERBEIN
01/13/2020 07:02 PM EST
Bernie Sanders first major tangle with Joe Biden over a 2010 deal that Biden struck with Republicans that liberals believed threatened Social Security helped fuel his national rise.
Now Sanders is set to reprise that clash Tuesday night on the debate stage, where the Vermont senator is preparing to lay into Biden over his record on Social Security.
For the past week, Sanders and his campaign have telegraphed his attack over the former vice presidents long-standing record entertaining cuts to the program that are anathema to progressives and many mainstream Democrats.
Sanders speechwriter and senior adviser David Sirota said Tuesday will be time for Biden to answer hard questions about his past onstage.
Joe Biden has repeatedly worked to cut Social Security, and has never offered up a good explanation for that crusade. His Social Security record is not only atrocious on a policy level, it is an enormous political vulnerability in both a primary and a general election, Sirota said. Bernie Sanders has exactly the opposite record hes fought those cuts and fought to expand Social Security, and that is a contrast Democratic voters deserve to know.
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more to get upset, or not, about at link
January 13, 2020
Sanders surges as progressives flock to him over Warren
Politico
The consolidation of left-wing support is a remarkable turnaround for Sanders.
By HOLLY OTTERBEIN
01/13/2020 05:10 AM EST
IOWA CITY, Iowa Somethings happening with Bernie Sanders that looked unlikely to many a few months ago: Progressive leaders and organizations are lining up behind him, not Elizabeth Warren, in the lead-up to voting.
Two groups run by young people the Sunrise Movement, which seeks to combat climate change, and Dream Defenders, which advocates for people of color endorsed him last week. Hes also won the backing of Peoples Action and the Center for Popular Democracy, which together claim more than 1.5 million members, as well as three lawmakers in the so-called Squad and liberal-minded labor unions.
The consolidation of left-wing support is a remarkable turnaround for Sanders. In September, the Working Families Party became the first major national progressive group to endorse a candidate when it picked Warren despite siding with Sanders in 2016. Warren was surging at the time, and looked poised to overtake Sanders as the leader of the progressive movement and a frontrunner for the nomination.
But now its Sanders with the wind at his back. The endorsements, on display here Sunday when Rep. Rashida Tlaib and the Sunrise Movement joined him for a rally attended by more than 900 people, are giving him a jolt of momentum weeks ahead of the Iowa caucuses and supplying him with fresh volunteers in key areas.
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The consolidation of left-wing support is a remarkable turnaround for Sanders.
By HOLLY OTTERBEIN
01/13/2020 05:10 AM EST
IOWA CITY, Iowa Somethings happening with Bernie Sanders that looked unlikely to many a few months ago: Progressive leaders and organizations are lining up behind him, not Elizabeth Warren, in the lead-up to voting.
Two groups run by young people the Sunrise Movement, which seeks to combat climate change, and Dream Defenders, which advocates for people of color endorsed him last week. Hes also won the backing of Peoples Action and the Center for Popular Democracy, which together claim more than 1.5 million members, as well as three lawmakers in the so-called Squad and liberal-minded labor unions.
The consolidation of left-wing support is a remarkable turnaround for Sanders. In September, the Working Families Party became the first major national progressive group to endorse a candidate when it picked Warren despite siding with Sanders in 2016. Warren was surging at the time, and looked poised to overtake Sanders as the leader of the progressive movement and a frontrunner for the nomination.
But now its Sanders with the wind at his back. The endorsements, on display here Sunday when Rep. Rashida Tlaib and the Sunrise Movement joined him for a rally attended by more than 900 people, are giving him a jolt of momentum weeks ahead of the Iowa caucuses and supplying him with fresh volunteers in key areas.
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more Bernie leadership at link
January 12, 2020
WATCH: Kellyanne Conway Lies About AOC and Ilhan Omar Literally As She Praises Collins Apology for S
Mediaite
By Tommy Christopher Jan 11th, 2020, 3:44 pm
Trump White House counselor Kellyanne Conway smeared Congresswomen Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and Ilhan Omar (D-MN) even as she was congratulating Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA) for similarly smearing Democrats as loving terrorists.
Earlier this week, Collins said that Democrats are in love with terrorists, then defended the comments to Fox News before finally apologizing on Twitter.
Conway gaggled with reporters in the Brady briefing room Friday, and was asked about the potential for a change in tone represented by Collins apology. In the midst of a lengthy answer lauding her own efforts at elevating the tone, Conway slammed AOC and Rep. Omar by falsely claiming one of them had apologized to the Iranian people for the attack that killed Qasem Soleimani, and called their group The Squad That Doesnt Do Squat as part of her tone-elevating effort.
We had members of Congress earlier this week apologizing to the Iranian people, on behalf of America, Conway claimed.
Who? Can you name them? asked Breakfast Media correspondent Andrew Feinberg.
Yeah, whats her name, was it AOC or Omar who did that? Conway asked to a staffer, and added Someone from the squad that doesnt do squat, Im pretty sure it was AOC, in a tweet, somebody said Oh 52% of us believe a different way.
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By Tommy Christopher Jan 11th, 2020, 3:44 pm
Trump White House counselor Kellyanne Conway smeared Congresswomen Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and Ilhan Omar (D-MN) even as she was congratulating Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA) for similarly smearing Democrats as loving terrorists.
Earlier this week, Collins said that Democrats are in love with terrorists, then defended the comments to Fox News before finally apologizing on Twitter.
Conway gaggled with reporters in the Brady briefing room Friday, and was asked about the potential for a change in tone represented by Collins apology. In the midst of a lengthy answer lauding her own efforts at elevating the tone, Conway slammed AOC and Rep. Omar by falsely claiming one of them had apologized to the Iranian people for the attack that killed Qasem Soleimani, and called their group The Squad That Doesnt Do Squat as part of her tone-elevating effort.
We had members of Congress earlier this week apologizing to the Iranian people, on behalf of America, Conway claimed.
Who? Can you name them? asked Breakfast Media correspondent Andrew Feinberg.
Yeah, whats her name, was it AOC or Omar who did that? Conway asked to a staffer, and added Someone from the squad that doesnt do squat, Im pretty sure it was AOC, in a tweet, somebody said Oh 52% of us believe a different way.
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Video and more Kellyanne kooky talk at link
Also, I still think AOC is smarter than 99% of the men, and a 100% of the Repubs in DC!
January 12, 2020
CNN's Joe Lockhart Argues Media Isn't Taking Bernie Sanders Seriously: 'Hard Floor of Supporters'
Mediaite
By Connor Mannion Jan 11th, 2020, 7:01 pm
CNN commentator Joe Lockhart told S.E. Cupp on her show that he doesnt think the media is seriously considering how Sen. Bernie Sanders could run away with the nomination.
Theres real shades of 2016, Lockhart said. Im gonna get flamed on Twitter tonight but the media early on did not take Trump seriously. So they didnt vet him and say, does your plan add up? And you know what about your plan on Iran and getting out?
Up until now, the media has not taken Bernie Sanders that seriously, he continued.
He would say the same thing, Cupp interjected.
And hes been right, Lockhart agreed.
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more at link
By Connor Mannion Jan 11th, 2020, 7:01 pm
CNN commentator Joe Lockhart told S.E. Cupp on her show that he doesnt think the media is seriously considering how Sen. Bernie Sanders could run away with the nomination.
Theres real shades of 2016, Lockhart said. Im gonna get flamed on Twitter tonight but the media early on did not take Trump seriously. So they didnt vet him and say, does your plan add up? And you know what about your plan on Iran and getting out?
Up until now, the media has not taken Bernie Sanders that seriously, he continued.
He would say the same thing, Cupp interjected.
And hes been right, Lockhart agreed.
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more at link
Bernie is on a roll!
January 10, 2020
It's Biden vs. Bernie as war bursts into presidential race
Politico
The Democratic primary could come down to a simple question: Do voters want Bidens promise of a steady hand, or Bernies revolutionary zeal?
By RYAN LIZZA
01/10/2020 05:08 AM EST
Last Saturday in Iowa, the day after an American MQ-9 Reaper dropped its ordnance on Qassem Soleimani in Baghdad, Joe Biden moved quickly to make himself the face of Democratic opposition to Trumps drone strike. It was early evening at a Des Moines elementary school gymnasium, and despite the dip in temperature and the long lines to get inside, a larger and more engaged audience than the ones he attracted over the summer and fall was waiting for the former vice president.
It was a white-collar crowdDes Moines-area lawyers and insurance industry professionals and a smattering of D.C. Obama veterans now in town to help Biden in the homestretch. The top lawyer at ICE under the last administration was there, and told me it was the first time hed ever canvassed Iowa for a candidate.
ran had heightened the stakes. #WWIII was trending online and predictions of an all-out war were commonplace. Trump might now benefit from the halo that glows atop all wartime leaders, at least for a time. And the importance of the outcome of the Democratic primaryto say nothing of the country and the world had suddenly ballooned. Would voters want an experienced hand whose position on world affairs is basically, Trust me, I know what Im doing (Biden) or would they gravitate toward someone like Bernie Sanders, whose ringing calls to get the U.S. out of Middle East quagmires have the benefit of clarity, but make many a D.C. foreign-policy hand queasy? The answer may help determine who wins over the Democratic base, and perhaps the country, come November.
While waiting for Biden that evening in Des Moines, one of the pre-program speakers led the crowd in singing God Bless America. When he arrived, Biden the candidate still winked and shot finger guns at well-wishers and hugged them afterwards, but it was Biden the commander-in-chief that his advisers wanted on display. The former veep pilloried what he viewed as Trumps recklessness and called for congressional authorization of any further military engagement with Iran. His aides began planning a major speech on the issue in New York for the following Tuesday.
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The Democratic primary could come down to a simple question: Do voters want Bidens promise of a steady hand, or Bernies revolutionary zeal?
By RYAN LIZZA
01/10/2020 05:08 AM EST
Last Saturday in Iowa, the day after an American MQ-9 Reaper dropped its ordnance on Qassem Soleimani in Baghdad, Joe Biden moved quickly to make himself the face of Democratic opposition to Trumps drone strike. It was early evening at a Des Moines elementary school gymnasium, and despite the dip in temperature and the long lines to get inside, a larger and more engaged audience than the ones he attracted over the summer and fall was waiting for the former vice president.
It was a white-collar crowdDes Moines-area lawyers and insurance industry professionals and a smattering of D.C. Obama veterans now in town to help Biden in the homestretch. The top lawyer at ICE under the last administration was there, and told me it was the first time hed ever canvassed Iowa for a candidate.
ran had heightened the stakes. #WWIII was trending online and predictions of an all-out war were commonplace. Trump might now benefit from the halo that glows atop all wartime leaders, at least for a time. And the importance of the outcome of the Democratic primaryto say nothing of the country and the world had suddenly ballooned. Would voters want an experienced hand whose position on world affairs is basically, Trust me, I know what Im doing (Biden) or would they gravitate toward someone like Bernie Sanders, whose ringing calls to get the U.S. out of Middle East quagmires have the benefit of clarity, but make many a D.C. foreign-policy hand queasy? The answer may help determine who wins over the Democratic base, and perhaps the country, come November.
While waiting for Biden that evening in Des Moines, one of the pre-program speakers led the crowd in singing God Bless America. When he arrived, Biden the candidate still winked and shot finger guns at well-wishers and hugged them afterwards, but it was Biden the commander-in-chief that his advisers wanted on display. The former veep pilloried what he viewed as Trumps recklessness and called for congressional authorization of any further military engagement with Iran. His aides began planning a major speech on the issue in New York for the following Tuesday.
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more at link
January 10, 2020
Elizabeth Warren's surprising closing argument
Politico
A candidate known for battling Bernie Sanders for the hearts of progressives is pitching her electability in the weeks leading up to Iowa.
By ALEX THOMPSON
01/09/2020 08:06 PM EST
Elizabeth Warren is often portrayed in media as a figure of the left-wing, locked in a battle with Bernie Sanders for the progressive base of the party. In fact, polling frequently shows she's the second choice not just of Sanders voters, but of Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg supporters, too.
Seeking a spark heading into the Iowa caucuses, Warren and her allies are making a surprising closing argument: That shes best positioned to unite and excite the party and is therefore the most electable.
Its the first time Warrens orbit has made the electability pitch so overtly. But the campaign has been quietly implementing that strategy since 2018, when Warren raised or donated $11 million to Democratic candidates and began drawing subtle distinctions with Sanders (She described herself as a "capitalist to my bones, in contrast to Sanders preference for democratic socialism). Warren has also mostly abstained from attacking other Democrats in an attempt not to alienate supporters of other candidates. Her campaign staff reflects the approach, with a mix of officials from Sanders, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clintons past campaigns.
She has gone above and beyond to convince establishment types that she is a team player and a Democrat, said Ian Sams, the former national press secretary for Kamala Harris presidential campaign. I dont think they see her as a left-wing extremist, and they respect her seriousness and policy chops.
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A candidate known for battling Bernie Sanders for the hearts of progressives is pitching her electability in the weeks leading up to Iowa.
By ALEX THOMPSON
01/09/2020 08:06 PM EST
Elizabeth Warren is often portrayed in media as a figure of the left-wing, locked in a battle with Bernie Sanders for the progressive base of the party. In fact, polling frequently shows she's the second choice not just of Sanders voters, but of Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg supporters, too.
Seeking a spark heading into the Iowa caucuses, Warren and her allies are making a surprising closing argument: That shes best positioned to unite and excite the party and is therefore the most electable.
Its the first time Warrens orbit has made the electability pitch so overtly. But the campaign has been quietly implementing that strategy since 2018, when Warren raised or donated $11 million to Democratic candidates and began drawing subtle distinctions with Sanders (She described herself as a "capitalist to my bones, in contrast to Sanders preference for democratic socialism). Warren has also mostly abstained from attacking other Democrats in an attempt not to alienate supporters of other candidates. Her campaign staff reflects the approach, with a mix of officials from Sanders, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clintons past campaigns.
She has gone above and beyond to convince establishment types that she is a team player and a Democrat, said Ian Sams, the former national press secretary for Kamala Harris presidential campaign. I dont think they see her as a left-wing extremist, and they respect her seriousness and policy chops.
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more at link
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