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193. If Oprah actually wants to give being POTUS a go, then she should work in government in congress

Mon Jan 8, 2018, 01:16 PM

Jan 2018

It would let people determine if she is up for the task of public office. It would also help her figure out if it's something she really wants to do. If she was a senator of six or eight years first and she did a good job, then I'd fully support her running. The same goes for any other 'outsider' who thinks they can shake things up.

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No Amateurs as Democratic Presidential Candidates, Please! [View all] MineralMan Jan 2018 OP

K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2018 #1

Maybe there should be a test that must be passed to run for national offices. olegramps Jan 2018 #138

While I dont disagree with your reasoning SCantiGOP Jan 2018 #158

We have a convicted felon running for office in WV Maggiemayhem Jan 2018 #198

Can you impeach for incompetence? olegramps Jan 2018 #333

They purposely left it vague SCantiGOP Jan 2018 #338

The framers of the Constitution placed restrictions on who could vote. olegramps Jan 2018 #334

I've argued for years... green917 Jan 2018 #183

that certainly makes sense. niyad Jan 2018 #196

I passed that immigrant test gopiscrap Jan 2018 #288

Iice also taken and passed it. green917 Jan 2018 #325

yup, I bet you're are correct on that gopiscrap Jan 2018 #332

I don't have the article at hand, but the ability of the average citizen to pass was dismal. olegramps Jan 2018 #335

agreed gopiscrap Jan 2018 #337

Also, Can We Have a Democratic Nominee TomCADem Jan 2018 #295

I think debates, a free press and elections were supposed to cover this OhioBlue Jan 2018 #319

Agreed, someone who served as a governor and as a legislator-state as well as congress. TexasProgresive Jan 2018 #2

She doesn't know how to get things done????????? Do you have any... LAS14 Jan 2018 #209

I suppose you are referring to Oprah Winfrey TexasProgresive Jan 2018 #242

Ahhh...her name hasn't been mentioned but it seems we're talking about Oprah Winfrey, right? brush Jan 2018 #231

See my reply #242 TexasProgresive Jan 2018 #244

I read it. With Winfrey we're not talking dotard, or even Reagan. She has actual intelligence. brush Jan 2018 #252

I stand that being successful in business and charismatic is not a replacement TexasProgresive Jan 2018 #255

Any new president now with our divided political climate will encounter opposition. brush Jan 2018 #265

Ike had the experience of being a top general who dealt with the government. TexasProgresive Jan 2018 #270

That would be nice. I'd be happy with a Dem pres. with just the House, or the Senate. brush Jan 2018 #278

and Ike wasn't that great either gopiscrap Jan 2018 #289

You forgot racism. LAS14 Jan 2018 #260

YES! And that too. Oprah is formidable, and IMO could beat trump. brush Jan 2018 #266

exactly gopiscrap Jan 2018 #290

Unfortunately, anyone who runs on a platform of competence is pretty much guaranteed to lose. Girard442 Jan 2018 #3

I completely disagree. MineralMan Jan 2018 #4

I agree PatSeg Jan 2018 #36

Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and Hilary Clinton msdogi Jan 2018 #170

Yes. You are correct. MineralMan Jan 2018 #171

Also Al Gore jg10003 Jan 2018 #247

Neither Bill nor Obama ran on competence as their campaign theme OhioBlue Jan 2018 #321

Hopefully, we get both. These days, it takes a visionary to Alice11111 Jan 2018 #205

I'm sorry to say then... druidity33 Jan 2018 #293

Oh fer pete sakes - the two are not mutually exclusive. nt Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2018 #15

It's a little like shopping for a house. Girard442 Jan 2018 #21

You haven't paid attention to your own analogy. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #37

Picture this: Leonard and Penny from the Big Bang Theory are running in a primary. Girard442 Jan 2018 #51

Fuck TV. We've had enough TV & movie star incompetents in the Presidency! : eyes : . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #53

LOL. Not suggesting we actually run Johnny Galecki or Kaley Cuoco. Girard442 Jan 2018 #82

Ronald Reagan, Donald Trump ?? SCantiGOP Jan 2018 #118

Reagan was a 2 term Gov of California. Cattledog Jan 2018 #142

I know that SCantiGOP Jan 2018 #153

If the RW can win with a Ferangi, we can win with a Captain Kirk! Sunlei Jan 2018 #329

Who the hell are Leonard and Penny and why should adult voters care? bettyellen Jan 2018 #115

Exactly Alice11111 Jan 2018 #206

Wrong. Iggo Jan 2018 #262

+ struggle4progress Jan 2018 #5

I agree. nt Crabby Appleton Jan 2018 #6

Thanks. MineralMan Jan 2018 #7

If the D's rise to the challenge in the fall, quite a few people will become visible as possibles. Girard442 Jan 2018 #26

Yes. kag Jan 2018 #225

No amateurs is correct bdamomma Jan 2018 #8

Electing a President should be serious business. MineralMan Jan 2018 #11

"It's not a popularity contest" - right, it's an electoral college contest. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2018 #35

And there you have the major problem. maddiemom Jan 2018 #130

what we have learned from Trump is that Oprah can win womanofthehills Jan 2018 #297

Silver spoon?????? Do you know her life story???? LAS14 Jan 2018 #212

I am not bdamomma Jan 2018 #245

Inslee for President! Evergreen Emerald Jan 2018 #9

I don't know much about him. MineralMan Jan 2018 #16

i like jay but i dont see fire in his belly... samnsara Jan 2018 #32

I love Jay Inslee and think he would make a great president. (eom) StevieM Jan 2018 #42

Boeing's bag man. bahrbearian Jan 2018 #68

Sez You. MineralMan Jan 2018 #92

You mean he never gave Boeing a 9 Billion dollar tax break. bahrbearian Jan 2018 #114

Tax breaks for major corporations are a commonplace. MineralMan Jan 2018 #124

all Washington governor's KT2000 Jan 2018 #211

You are saying then that no Democratic Governor who has given tax incentives to major business pnwmom Jan 2018 #261

I like him, too. But he doesn't have the "oomph" yet. He'd be a GREAT running mate for Oprah, though calimary Jan 2018 #111

At 66, he's not as young as he looks. But I do like him a lot. n/t pnwmom Jan 2018 #263

Jay is a great guy angrychair Jan 2018 #309

I also think Kamala Harris would be a very strong candidate. n/t pnwmom Jan 2018 #310

I heard him this weekend True Blue American Jan 2018 #214

Good guy, but Alice11111 Jan 2018 #220

And, who understands how government works as opposed to the idiot in office. Also, reading, RKP5637 Jan 2018 #10

Absolutely. MineralMan Jan 2018 #13

also a stable mental state bdamomma Jan 2018 #18

Yep, Definitely!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2018 #19

a stable genius for a change..... ollie10 Jan 2018 #129

No VERY successful businessman or top T.V. Star dalton99a Jan 2018 #12

Totally. There will be a huge to-do list. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #14

Exactly! MineralMan Jan 2018 #17

So agree. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2018 #20

Thanks for your reply! MineralMan Jan 2018 #22

Totally agreed ! left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #23

We need to let our elder statesmen BE elder statesmen and start letting tblue37 Jan 2018 #62

geez, how about bdamomma Jan 2018 #73

I just want competence heaven05 Jan 2018 #24

It will be up to us to help make that happen, MineralMan Jan 2018 #25

It's impossible to predict a good 2020 candidate in 2018 DesertRat Jan 2018 #27

I'm not predicting anything. I'm making a request. MineralMan Jan 2018 #29

and eliminate bdamomma Jan 2018 #80

You got any workable plans for eliminating the EC? TexasProgresive Jan 2018 #141

Can't happen before the 2020 election. MineralMan Jan 2018 #201

a lot of red tape regarding the Electoral College. bdamomma Jan 2018 #249

Yes, that is true. MineralMan Jan 2018 #273

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #28

Bullshit. spanone Jan 2018 #54

Amen X 1,000,000. Paladin Jan 2018 #30

I agree. We probably should ignore all of these MineralMan Jan 2018 #33

The old-fashioned way. Hear, hear. Paladin Jan 2018 #93

Get informed about Oprah. LAS14 Jan 2018 #264

amen amen amen amen amen amen samnsara Jan 2018 #31

Well, she's apparently the "Presidential Candidate of the Day," MineralMan Jan 2018 #34

She's a Democrat and she's had more experience doing things in Alice11111 Jan 2018 #217

Wholeheartedly agree! Cracklin Charlie Jan 2018 #38

If Oprah ran I think she would win the Democratic nomination in 2020 easily. Sharpshooter007 Jan 2018 #39

Unfortunately probably correct. alarimer Jan 2018 #70

With all due respect, NOTHING unfortunate about it. calimary Jan 2018 #94

It takes more than "common sense." alarimer Jan 2018 #119

So you'll want to go rogue and make sure that we DON'T stand together and therefore calimary Jan 2018 #134

Yep. alarimer Jan 2018 #139

Too many skeletons in her closet. And thank god for that. bettyellen Jan 2018 #125

Here, too, we'll have to agree to disagree. calimary Jan 2018 #137

What skeletons? Really? There are none that she has not publicly acknowledged Thekaspervote Jan 2018 #162

Youre kidding right? bettyellen Jan 2018 #189

If they are so obvious than you must inform the ignorant. TexasProgresive Jan 2018 #248

What skeletons??? Alice11111 Jan 2018 #222

I am somewhat skeptical of that Cosmocat Jan 2018 #78

I'd make an exception for Oprah Winfrey. forgotmylogin Jan 2018 #81

I bet a LOT of people would make an exception for Oprah Winfrey. calimary Jan 2018 #103

Count me in. kstewart33 Jan 2018 #110

If she is what it takes to win, go for the win this time! Alice11111 Jan 2018 #224

Me too!! She is smart savvy and would surround herself with only the best leaders Thekaspervote Jan 2018 #160

Surround herself with the best leaders? Bradshaw3 Jan 2018 #254

If Oprah actually wants to give being POTUS a go, then she should work in government in congress xor Jan 2018 #193

I agree Soxfan58 Jan 2018 #40

Agree. And someone who realizes what Republicans fight for. TryLogic Jan 2018 #41

Only if Roasanne runs as her VP! hexola Jan 2018 #43

Oh, my! MineralMan Jan 2018 #44

Oprah/Rosanne 2020 hexola Jan 2018 #47

You do realize that Roseanne Barr supported Trump Maggiemayhem Jan 2018 #188

She was also a regular guest on Oprahs show. hexola Jan 2018 #234

Thats why she gets picked - bring the Trumpers along. Ms. & Mrs. America! hexola Jan 2018 #237

You forgot the sarcasm thingy. nt SunSeeker Jan 2018 #218

Nope. She'd have a more conventional politician as a running mate. Probably male. calimary Jan 2018 #105

Roseanne who? BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2018 #191

Also an "Oprah" regular hexola Jan 2018 #236

Someone doesn't like Oprah dembotoz Jan 2018 #45

I like Oprah Winfrey just fine. MineralMan Jan 2018 #48

No way should Oprah be president. Tipperary Jan 2018 #50

I can't stand her nini Jan 2018 #136

It was the Oprahs favorite things episodes that did it for me BannonsLiver Jan 2018 #246

I "like" lots of people.... paleotn Jan 2018 #286

Well, we all have our own priorities and preferences. President Tom Steyer sounds good to me. (eom) StevieM Jan 2018 #46

I'd rather have Steyer on the fundraising team for our candidate. MineralMan Jan 2018 #49

We need to support Democrats first duforsure Jan 2018 #52

While I will vote for whomever is the Democratic nominee, MineralMan Jan 2018 #57

People have DIED because of Oprah's woo-woo promotion. alarimer Jan 2018 #123

Too much quakery Maggiemayhem Jan 2018 #250

The more charismatic candidate has always won in the modern TV era NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #55

Charisma and Competence are not exclusive of each other. MineralMan Jan 2018 #60

Nor is charisma and incompetence are not either NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #159

While the president needs good counsel they need clear vision in order to lead. TexasProgresive Jan 2018 #253

Oh, I would not support her in a primary, either NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #257

That's a no-brainer. TexasProgresive Jan 2018 #267

TRUE,sadly maybe, whether purists want to believe it or not Alice11111 Jan 2018 #227

You get healthcare...you get healthcare...and you get healthcare! hexola Jan 2018 #56

It's an irresponsible Republican pattern to push incompetent celebrities into important tblue37 Jan 2018 #58

I like Al Franken. I helped get him elected. MineralMan Jan 2018 #61

On what basis do you say she's incompetent? LAS14 Jan 2018 #269

actually, Oprah is an experienced communicator bigtree Jan 2018 #59

As I said earlier, I like Oprah very much. MineralMan Jan 2018 #63

I'm not advocating her for the Dem nom bigtree Jan 2018 #77

There are a number of non-politicians whose names we may hear MineralMan Jan 2018 #84

presidential politics bigtree Jan 2018 #95

I normally ignore 2020 threads, but I agree... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #64

100% this. alarimer Jan 2018 #65

Agree. Enough with the celeb worship Bradshaw3 Jan 2018 #66

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #67

As far as I'm concerned, Bernie Sanders is welcome to try again. MineralMan Jan 2018 #69

that would be a ticket to trumps second term..... getagrip_already Jan 2018 #72

That's why we have primaries. MineralMan Jan 2018 #79

As much as I like Oprah, I agree with you. geardaddy Jan 2018 #71

yas-a-million catrose Jan 2018 #74

If they have given a good speech I'm in!!!!!! NCTraveler Jan 2018 #75

Fuck it. She's got TREMENDOUS appeal, power and clout with the public, class, and DEEP pockets. calimary Jan 2018 #76

Oprah has horrible negatives. She supports quacks and scammers. longship Jan 2018 #97

A dog chases a car. What will he do with it if he catches it? The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #109

I'd rather he catch and learn on the road than never get a chance behind the wheel. n/t musicblind Jan 2018 #197

Joe Kennedy? Maggiemayhem Jan 2018 #83

I suspect we will hear his name often. MineralMan Jan 2018 #87

Yes! True Blue American Jan 2018 #221

ITA TimeToGo Jan 2018 #85

Agreed. I like Oprah, but I don't want her to run. OliverQ Jan 2018 #86

Schiff definitely comes to mind. MineralMan Jan 2018 #89

Eric Garcetti efhmc Jan 2018 #88

Another notable name, indeed. MineralMan Jan 2018 #90

He is a great mayor. efhmc Jan 2018 #116

Yes, agreed... MineralMan Jan 2018 #122

Assuming that this in response to Oprah? Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #91

It's in response to the "Candidate of the day" phenomenon that occurs MineralMan Jan 2018 #96

I agree Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #100

But look at where that speech was made. That's the difference. MineralMan Jan 2018 #106

Obama was already in politics, and he gave that speech at the Dem convention. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #120

"That's a lot different from a tv personality giving a speech at a show biz awards ceremony." 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #241

God, that was awfully impressive bdamomma Jan 2018 #312

Since it's clear we're talking about Oprah (among others), on what grounds.... LAS14 Jan 2018 #277

As soon as Oprah's GG speech was out of her mouth last night, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #98

+1 dalton99a Jan 2018 #101

Thank you for your very well thought-out and presented MineralMan Jan 2018 #102

Thank you. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #152

You're far from being alone in that. MineralMan Jan 2018 #155

When I heard this Oprah buzz, I became just for a moment, Ebenezer Scrooge aka-chmeee Jan 2018 #302

Very well said! I agree with you and also appreciate Mineral Mans's oriignal post and your justhanginon Jan 2018 #177

Thank you. cwydro Jan 2018 #204

Yes, this. n/t ms liberty Jan 2018 #313

Agree, agree, agree! nt Heartstrings Jan 2018 #99

Just wanna get thru 2018... LakeArenal Jan 2018 #168

Midterms, Midterms, Midterms! Heartstrings Jan 2018 #203

We must win to save our democracy. kstewart33 Jan 2018 #104

She won't, I promise you. MineralMan Jan 2018 #107

If she's the strongest candidate we can come up with, we are in deep kimchee. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #112

We appear to already be deeply buried in sour, fermenting cabbage. MineralMan Jan 2018 #126

For me, the key question is who can win. kstewart33 Jan 2018 #223

But if we win with a candidate who doesn't know how to do the job, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #228

Not necessarily. kstewart33 Jan 2018 #339

Good Point Firestorm49 Jan 2018 #108

Disagree mchill Jan 2018 #113

Agree. LAS14 Jan 2018 #280

Oprah yes, but "The Rock" NO NO NO mchill Jan 2018 #117

That would be nice. KPN Jan 2018 #121

KnR. I hate watching people play Democratic Shiny Object Teams of the Day. nt Hekate Jan 2018 #127

It appears to be a favorite game here. MineralMan Jan 2018 #132

And no OPRHA! (nt) question everything Jan 2018 #128

Americans are desperate for someone Bayard Jan 2018 #131

THANK YOU nini Jan 2018 #133

For the record mchill Jan 2018 #149

Oh please nini Jan 2018 #156

I think Oprah or anyone with good people skills like her would be fine nolabels Jan 2018 #175

And this is why this country is doomed nini Jan 2018 #176

If you despair at where you are you not likely make it to where you want to go nolabels Jan 2018 #192

There's more to a person than the label you put on their profession mchill Jan 2018 #200

Her position on science and medicine is absolutely horrible. longship Jan 2018 #292

Interesting - didn't know this about her nor mchill Jan 2018 #336

Dems Only DownriverDem Jan 2018 #135

NO MORE NADERS Skittles Jan 2018 #322

Well I do understand that position. Kimchijeon Jan 2018 #140

Laughable..... LovingA2andMI Jan 2018 #143

Will Trump be primaried? ollie10 Jan 2018 #144

Frankly, I do not think Trump will be President at all by that time. MineralMan Jan 2018 #145

A lot of folks are noticing signs of pre-dementia ollie10 Jan 2018 #157

HE'S absolutely going to be primaried Cosmocat Jan 2018 #299

I am not so sure he would survive a primary ollie10 Jan 2018 #300

Maybe if there are only one or two Cosmocat Jan 2018 #303

Is this about Oprah? oberliner Jan 2018 #146

This is about the "Presidential Candidate of the Day." MineralMan Jan 2018 #147

So Oprah is not the amateur, actor, business CEO in question? oberliner Jan 2018 #151

Had I wanted to limit my post to Oprah Winfrey, I could have MineralMan Jan 2018 #154

OK oberliner Jan 2018 #207

Amateur only means inept. Cattledog Jan 2018 #148

No, it actually doesn't mean that. MineralMan Jan 2018 #150

Spliting hairs. Cattledog Jan 2018 #164

No, not at all. MineralMan Jan 2018 #180

Amateur means unpaid. Caliman73 Jan 2018 #243

It's what the primary is about The Mouth Jan 2018 #161

Yes, but one of the things to avoid is too many candidates MineralMan Jan 2018 #165

It worked out for them The Mouth Jan 2018 #181

An extremely poor choice went on to win. MineralMan Jan 2018 #185

What if the alternative is Trump, though? The Mouth Jan 2018 #213

As I always do, I will vote for the Democratic nominee for President. MineralMan Jan 2018 #215

"Democrats fall in love. Republicans fall in line" EOM The Mouth Jan 2018 #226

I agree with what you wrote.... CatMor Jan 2018 #163

We did elect the most qualified candidate in 2016 msdogi Jan 2018 #166

Couldnt agree more. octoberlib Jan 2018 #167

I wish Hillary had done what is in your signature graphic. MineralMan Jan 2018 #169

In hindsight, I bet she would. She was octoberlib Jan 2018 #173

We had the most qualified ever and lost! mrsv Jan 2018 #172

How Hillary Clinton lost is something we need to study MineralMan Jan 2018 #174

Clinton spent more money in Michigan than Obama did in 2012. That goes for Pennsylvania too. StevieM Jan 2018 #331

Yes! mchill Jan 2018 #195

Not without Russia's help or comey's help or voter suppression uponit7771 Jan 2018 #238

We need to win to clean up this shit show OhioBlue Jan 2018 #178

The next time Harvard-Harris does their "popularity poll" I hope the include.... George II Jan 2018 #179

Oprah for president Stanley Roper Jan 2018 #182

You are joking I hope Maggiemayhem Jan 2018 #232

Mueller tiptonic Jan 2018 #184

I am sure that Mueller has no desire to run for office. MineralMan Jan 2018 #187

K&R redstatebluegirl Jan 2018 #186

Agreed. I GROANED when I heard about Oprah. DinahMoeHum Jan 2018 #190

I would like to thank everyone who participated in this thread, sincerely. MineralMan Jan 2018 #194

I know people out there want outsiders Bradical79 Jan 2018 #199

I agree 100% Nitram Jan 2018 #202

"incompetent"? "Amateur?" LAS14 Jan 2018 #208

Barack Obama was a US Senator MineralMan Jan 2018 #210

One time, not full term. Barely "experienced." Do you know... LAS14 Jan 2018 #216

He was also an Illinois state legislator. MineralMan Jan 2018 #219

They're gone Penny. They can't hear you. fleabiscuit Jan 2018 #229

Wow! A Big Bang Theory Allusion. MineralMan Jan 2018 #230

I would throw Sam Nunn's name in the hat!. 40RatRod Jan 2018 #233

Democrats need to campaign on QUALIFICATIONS Mr. Ected Jan 2018 #235

Maybe the problem isnt the politicians, but the government and politics themselves. MadDAsHell Jan 2018 #239

Our system of government can only be changed by those MineralMan Jan 2018 #240

Which is an argument for electing someone from outside..... Never thought.... LAS14 Jan 2018 #258

Immediate visceral responses need to be analyzed objectively MineralMan Jan 2018 #268

Thank you. LisaM Jan 2018 #251

What if people don't want politicians anymore? There is a perception filter to overcome. Vilis Veritas Jan 2018 #256

I'm always suspicious of celebrity. MineralMan Jan 2018 #271

I'm always suspicious of politicians. Vilis Veritas Jan 2018 #275

Exactly. That's why political decisions need to be made after MineralMan Jan 2018 #276

I agree, never said anything else. I am merely trying to point out that the other side Vilis Veritas Jan 2018 #282

Obama was also a constitutional lawyer. MineralMan Jan 2018 #283

President Obama also understood celebrity and star power. He used his charisma to win the nation. Vilis Veritas Jan 2018 #291

I would think that about teachers ehrnst Jan 2018 #296

I agree get the red out Jan 2018 #259

You Heretic! Kilgore Jan 2018 #272

A heretic, you say? MineralMan Jan 2018 #274

Success in Business Doesn't Always Translate into Success in Government dlk Jan 2018 #279

Very true. Thanks. MineralMan Jan 2018 #281

DURec leftstreet Jan 2018 #284

You're welcome. MineralMan Jan 2018 #285

add no career military fuckers either gopiscrap Jan 2018 #287

Hate and Attacks on Strong Women Continues TomCADem Jan 2018 #294

How is questioning the wisdom of electing to the presidency a tv personality The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #315

Oprah Gave a Great Speech. Did Not Mention Running for President TomCADem Jan 2018 #316

It was an excellent speech, and brava to Oprah for delivering it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #317

Sorry, but I don't like my choices being arbitrarily restricted. MGKrebs Jan 2018 #298

Obama was an outsider, Trump was an amateur bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #301

+1000 disndat Jan 2018 #304

While I believe that she would make a good president under normal circumstances, Nac Mac Feegle Jan 2018 #305

Word. AllyCat Jan 2018 #306

Sorry I disagree jimlup Jan 2018 #307

Personality is the number one characteristic, according to the American Voter. Firebrand Gary Jan 2018 #308

Agreed - no amateurs. 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #311

Boy Howdy am I with you on this! annabanana Jan 2018 #314

Non sequitur. All first time presidents are amateurs. fleabiscuit Jan 2018 #318

A little bit of an "R" but the worst President of the 19th century was succeeded by an obscure... NNadir Jan 2018 #320

Amen! Puzzler Jan 2018 #323

I think what we really need is stronger ideology because that's where we fall short time and again bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #324

I would like to see all those names mentioned as 2018s Congress, Senators & state Governors this yr Sunlei Jan 2018 #326

That would be fine, but it will probably not happen. MineralMan Jan 2018 #327

Very few people actually want to be a public servant in this Gov. Most are out for personal agenda. Sunlei Jan 2018 #328

Exactly! There are other ways to make a difference but DO NOT get in the way Dem_4_Life Jan 2018 #330

In many European countries, like France, kskiska Jan 2018 #340