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In reply to the discussion: No Amateurs as Democratic Presidential Candidates, Please! [View all]The Velveteen Ocelot
(119,273 posts)315. How is questioning the wisdom of electing to the presidency a tv personality
with no government experience misogynistic? Oprah has not said she's running, but all over DU and on the cable news shows it's all OPRAH FOR PRESIDENT just because she gave an inspiring speech on a showbiz awards show. I would have exactly the same attitude toward any male tv celebrity with no government experience who was being proposed as a presidential candidate. I would not support George Clooney or Tom Hanks or David Letterman or Jimmy Kimmel or Stephen Colbert, either, even though I like what they do in show business. This has nothing to do with misogyny.
BTW, I don't like Gillibrand much either because of what she did to one of the best Senators my state ever had.
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Maybe there should be a test that must be passed to run for national offices.
olegramps
Jan 2018
#138
I don't have the article at hand, but the ability of the average citizen to pass was dismal.
olegramps
Jan 2018
#335
Agreed, someone who served as a governor and as a legislator-state as well as congress.
TexasProgresive
Jan 2018
#2
Ahhh...her name hasn't been mentioned but it seems we're talking about Oprah Winfrey, right?
brush
Jan 2018
#231
I read it. With Winfrey we're not talking dotard, or even Reagan. She has actual intelligence.
brush
Jan 2018
#252
I stand that being successful in business and charismatic is not a replacement
TexasProgresive
Jan 2018
#255
Any new president now with our divided political climate will encounter opposition.
brush
Jan 2018
#265
Ike had the experience of being a top general who dealt with the government.
TexasProgresive
Jan 2018
#270
That would be nice. I'd be happy with a Dem pres. with just the House, or the Senate.
brush
Jan 2018
#278
Unfortunately, anyone who runs on a platform of competence is pretty much guaranteed to lose.
Girard442
Jan 2018
#3
Picture this: Leonard and Penny from the Big Bang Theory are running in a primary.
Girard442
Jan 2018
#51
Fuck TV. We've had enough TV & movie star incompetents in the Presidency! : eyes : . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2018
#53
If the D's rise to the challenge in the fall, quite a few people will become visible as possibles.
Girard442
Jan 2018
#26
"It's not a popularity contest" - right, it's an electoral college contest. n/t
PoliticAverse
Jan 2018
#35
You are saying then that no Democratic Governor who has given tax incentives to major business
pnwmom
Jan 2018
#261
I like him, too. But he doesn't have the "oomph" yet. He'd be a GREAT running mate for Oprah, though
calimary
Jan 2018
#111
And, who understands how government works as opposed to the idiot in office. Also, reading,
RKP5637
Jan 2018
#10
If Oprah ran I think she would win the Democratic nomination in 2020 easily.
Sharpshooter007
Jan 2018
#39
So you'll want to go rogue and make sure that we DON'T stand together and therefore
calimary
Jan 2018
#134
What skeletons? Really? There are none that she has not publicly acknowledged
Thekaspervote
Jan 2018
#162
Me too!! She is smart savvy and would surround herself with only the best leaders
Thekaspervote
Jan 2018
#160
If Oprah actually wants to give being POTUS a go, then she should work in government in congress
xor
Jan 2018
#193
Nope. She'd have a more conventional politician as a running mate. Probably male.
calimary
Jan 2018
#105
Well, we all have our own priorities and preferences. President Tom Steyer sounds good to me. (eom)
StevieM
Jan 2018
#46
While the president needs good counsel they need clear vision in order to lead.
TexasProgresive
Jan 2018
#253
It's an irresponsible Republican pattern to push incompetent celebrities into important
tblue37
Jan 2018
#58
Fuck it. She's got TREMENDOUS appeal, power and clout with the public, class, and DEEP pockets.
calimary
Jan 2018
#76
I'd rather he catch and learn on the road than never get a chance behind the wheel. n/t
musicblind
Jan 2018
#197
Obama was already in politics, and he gave that speech at the Dem convention.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jan 2018
#120
"That's a lot different from a tv personality giving a speech at a show biz awards ceremony."
3catwoman3
Jan 2018
#241
Very well said! I agree with you and also appreciate Mineral Mans's oriignal post and your
justhanginon
Jan 2018
#177
If she's the strongest candidate we can come up with, we are in deep kimchee.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jan 2018
#112
But if we win with a candidate who doesn't know how to do the job,
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jan 2018
#228
If you despair at where you are you not likely make it to where you want to go
nolabels
Jan 2018
#192
Clinton spent more money in Michigan than Obama did in 2012. That goes for Pennsylvania too.
StevieM
Jan 2018
#331
The next time Harvard-Harris does their "popularity poll" I hope the include....
George II
Jan 2018
#179
Maybe the problem isnt the politicians, but the government and politics themselves.
MadDAsHell
Jan 2018
#239
What if people don't want politicians anymore? There is a perception filter to overcome.
Vilis Veritas
Jan 2018
#256
I agree, never said anything else. I am merely trying to point out that the other side
Vilis Veritas
Jan 2018
#282
President Obama also understood celebrity and star power. He used his charisma to win the nation.
Vilis Veritas
Jan 2018
#291
How is questioning the wisdom of electing to the presidency a tv personality
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jan 2018
#315
It was an excellent speech, and brava to Oprah for delivering it.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jan 2018
#317
While I believe that she would make a good president under normal circumstances,
Nac Mac Feegle
Jan 2018
#305
Personality is the number one characteristic, according to the American Voter.
Firebrand Gary
Jan 2018
#308
A little bit of an "R" but the worst President of the 19th century was succeeded by an obscure...
NNadir
Jan 2018
#320
I think what we really need is stronger ideology because that's where we fall short time and again
bucolic_frolic
Jan 2018
#324
I would like to see all those names mentioned as 2018s Congress, Senators & state Governors this yr
Sunlei
Jan 2018
#326
Very few people actually want to be a public servant in this Gov. Most are out for personal agenda.
Sunlei
Jan 2018
#328
Exactly! There are other ways to make a difference but DO NOT get in the way
Dem_4_Life
Jan 2018
#330