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alarimer

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52. I agree and my response was a little intemperate.

Thu Feb 1, 2018, 04:04 PM

Feb 2018

It touched a nerve. It just makes me so angry that people dismiss women's concerns with the "no doesn't always mean no" narrative. What that means for some men is they should keep pressuring someone on the chance they don't mean it, when I think it should mean the opposite.

Women are expect to be the gatekeepers but, yet, are ALWAYS judged no matter what they do or say. I've been thinking lately that a comprehensive sex ed course (which of course we don't have at all in most places) should include topics like consent and communication and respecting other peoples' desires or lack thereof.

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Without going into too much detail... Sometimes "no" doesn't mean "no." [View all] LAS14 Feb 2018 OP

way to make light of the attempt to warn kids off "stranger danger" hlthe2b Feb 2018 #1

+1 MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #2

+2 Laffy Kat Feb 2018 #23

Geez...no kidding! Texasgal Feb 2018 #48

I don't see this as making light. It was a strong.... LAS14 Feb 2018 #73

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #3

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #10

victim blaming is never good. PERIOD. niyad Feb 2018 #11

+1 demmiblue Feb 2018 #13

And using the jury system in an effort to squash differing views is never good either. Kaleva Feb 2018 #16

rigghhhhht niyad Feb 2018 #17

For what reason did you think the OP deserved being alerted on? Kaleva Feb 2018 #22

you are, of course, free to assume whatever you wish. niyad Feb 2018 #24

So you don't know what rule the OP broke? Kaleva Feb 2018 #26

Caliman73 in post #20 articulated what I think. Kaleva Feb 2018 #28

You are unable or unwilling to consider additional possibilities beyond the one? LanternWaste Feb 2018 #32

What rule did the OP violate? Kaleva Feb 2018 #34

Odd, that's what you're indicting others for. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #35

So no one can articulate the rule the OP supposedly violated. Kaleva Feb 2018 #38

So you still can't articulate an answer to a supposedly simple question either. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #41

If you have no idea as to why the OP was alerted on, then just say so. Kaleva Feb 2018 #43

I do not think you are aware of the meaning of the word bemusedly. Tipperary Feb 2018 #67

+1 jalan48 Feb 2018 #19

An unpopular opinion will get blowback. Like what is happenening to this OP. Kaleva Feb 2018 #25

I agree-it feels like a form of censorship to me. jalan48 Feb 2018 #64

Thanks. See my reply #69. And no, I don't take... LAS14 Feb 2018 #79

What did she say that was victim blaming? She wasn't talking about victims. nt pnwmom Feb 2018 #33

what part of this did you not understand: niyad Feb 2018 #37

You don't think girls should be taught that they have the right to end sexual behavior? pnwmom Feb 2018 #39

you know I do, but I don't see anything there about teaching males NOT to be sexual niyad Feb 2018 #42

I'm sure LAS14 would agree on teaching sons not to be predators. But I didn't see pnwmom Feb 2018 #46

I agree that males should be taught... LAS14 Feb 2018 #82

Thanks. LAS14 Feb 2018 #80

I certainly don't want to blame the victim.... LAS14 Feb 2018 #78

I'm seeing this more often on DU. Not sure if these aren't trolls trying to cause dissension. jalan48 Feb 2018 #15

no question we have had, and continue to have, trolls here. we certainly saw them niyad Feb 2018 #18

Projecting your own pillow-talk onto national legislation is flawed. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #4

Flawed, simplistic projection to the point of...irrelevancy. Hortensis Feb 2018 #59

Ewwww n/t leftstreet Feb 2018 #5

I know Skittles Feb 2018 #66

... demmiblue Feb 2018 #6

What the fuck is this shit right here. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #7

Good post. Nt Phentex Feb 2018 #84

My responses LAS14 Feb 2018 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #8

Wow. The tone-deafness of that post was mind-boggling. Aristus Feb 2018 #9

Without going into to much detail...wow I shudder to think how much more you may dewsgirl Feb 2018 #12

I'm sorry I keep kicking this garbage but this post actually boils down to an excellent example of WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2018 #14

word. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #61

Human behavior is complex, but your post misses some obvious notes. Caliman73 Feb 2018 #20

+1 Kaleva Feb 2018 #27

Couldnt have said it better. nolabear Feb 2018 #74

Nice strawman you're putting up mythology Feb 2018 #21

No. liberalmuse Feb 2018 #29

I submit that there's a significant difference in informed consent between a long-married couple... Spider Jerusalem Feb 2018 #30

No. ismnotwasm Feb 2018 #31

It's not fucking complicated, not in the least. alarimer Feb 2018 #36

I agree with your statement. Human behavior however, is complicated. Caliman73 Feb 2018 #50

I agree and my response was a little intemperate. alarimer Feb 2018 #52

It is understandable. Caliman73 Feb 2018 #53

I don't believe your "too much detail" (it was) for an instant. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2018 #40

WOW....YOU GOT GUTS. Rustyeye77 Feb 2018 #44

Sure, I get what you're saying. And people communicate in a myriad of ways. Thing is, some people JCanete Feb 2018 #45

I appreciate your attempt to discuss the issues hueymahl Feb 2018 #47

I think it's because it's an anti "me too" post womanofthehills Feb 2018 #49

I don't think she is making an anti "me too" post. IluvPitties Feb 2018 #58

From a past post of hers, I believe it was her intent womanofthehills Feb 2018 #75

I'm not anti #MeToo.... I'm just anti the extreme proponents. LAS14 Feb 2018 #86

Thanks. See my reply #86. LAS14 Feb 2018 #87

discuss what? Skittles Feb 2018 #65

... shanny Feb 2018 #51

Good job training your husband not to understand no. Good luck to him if bettyellen Feb 2018 #54

+1 nt NCTraveler Feb 2018 #71

And sometimes the N-word means we're friends! Iggo Feb 2018 #55

What a disgusting post JenniferJuniper Feb 2018 #56

Thanks for sharing. I know you are being attacked, but it is important to have these conversations. IluvPitties Feb 2018 #57

why do you say no, when you mean yes? maybe that's part of the problem. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2018 #60

Cool story, bro. Nt raccoon Feb 2018 #62

I hope this is sarcasm. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #63

Society isn't trying mercuryblues Feb 2018 #68

OK, I'll try to answer some of the responses, and... LAS14 Feb 2018 #69

it is not "narrow thinking" to be nauseated by your post Skittles Feb 2018 #81

What does "post removed" mean? Does it mean a jusry voted it out? nt LAS14 Feb 2018 #70

yes Skittles Feb 2018 #77

You should go into more detail. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #72

Terrible post. Putting you on Ignore. shenmue Feb 2018 #76

You Can Teach Them All You Want Me. Feb 2018 #83

The difference here is between being w/an intimate partner and Rape. Sugar Smack Feb 2018 #88

What, there's legislation in place that would make use of safewords other than "no" illegal? moriah Feb 2018 #89