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nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 07:52 AM Feb 2018

I'd like a minute to talk about food .. in light of the Blue Apron thread [View all]

For SNAP recipients.

Fuck the GOP and anyone liberal, conservative, independent etc who thinks they have any right to say what a person should or should not eat.

Our country has a problem shaming people around food (esp women). Eat too much - someone will yell at you to go on a diet, eat too little someone will yell at you to eat a donut. Vegan or vegetarian - you are called a pretentious asshole. Eat meat - murderer. Eat fast food - lazy. Cook at home - must be nice to have all that time on your hands. If you are fat like me, and eat a salad out in public, some asshole will comment (to your face or loudly behind your back) that when you get home, you will eat a cake. If you are thin and eat a burger, be prepared to hear some snide asshole make a comment about how you'll throw it up.

I was raised by a vegetarian, eat very little meat as an adult, married to bonafide carnivore (he's from Iowa..pork and corn run in his blood) so I have heard every judgmental comment on both sides.

I was also on food stamps as a kid, as student worked in grocery stores dealing with people using food stamps, WIC checks, and later on SNAP cards, and as an advocate took women to apply for benefits and took them to food shelves. I have been on each end of the process and the shame felt by me as a child (because my mom made us drive out of town so no one would gossip), the shame I could feel radiating from customers, and the shame felt by victims of domestic violence, trying to get their lives together with limited financial resources and needing to apply for government assistance to feed their kids. Shame was everywhere.

Shame. Over food. Over goddamn fucking food in the richest damn country in the world that throws out more food in a year than other countries will ever have.

Shame. For food. No one should go hungry in this country ever. No one should be fucking malnourished because they live in food deserts where the nearest grocery store is a goddamn convenience store. Because a Big Mac and fries provides more precious calories and energy to fill hungry bellies for less money. Because adults working shitty shifts or two or more jobs don't have the time or energy to cook.

Fucking shame...for not having enough money in your kids lunch account at school so hot food is literally snatched from their hands, thrown in the garbage in front of them, and they are given a lecture, a cheese sandwich, and a stamp on their hand fucking branding them as poor.

Shame...shame on politicians who want to cut school lunch and breakfast programs, esp in the summer when kids need food to grow and to think and to thrive.

Shame...shame on politicians who cut meals on wheels programs ...programs that not only provide necessary nourishment but also vital social interaction and connections to their community.

Shame..on constantly reducing and limiting what SNAP benefits a person or family can have. It's food, for fucks sake ...it's food. If a mom or dad wants to get goddamn cake mix so their kid can bring cupcakes to school like other kids ...and not feel shame..or have a goddamn treat of cereal that they love .. what is the goddamn HARM? Homeless people and some with disabilities or elderly can't cook so what..they don't get to eat? You are gonna deny them eating prepared food and say here's a can opener and some beans, knock yourself out?

It takes a lot of fucking nerve for the party of the man who only eats KFC and McDonald's to start lecturing anyone on nutrition.

Some people will abuse any program...it's fucking human nature, assholes and scammers will always exist. But to punish people who are parents, children, tired, elderly, have disabilities, are homeless, are veterans and who are sadly HUNGRY is sick and deranged.

Food can be good, can be nourishing, can be comforting, can be celebratory, can be tasty, can be healthy and unhealthy. It shouldn't be scarce, it shouldn't be weaponized and it shouldn't be used to shame.

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This cabal of hate mongering republicans madaboutharry Feb 2018 #1
They appeal to and manipulate their base whopis01 Feb 2018 #104
This post needs to go viral TxDemChem Feb 2018 #2
Kick and recommend to the max. bronxiteforever Feb 2018 #3
Agreed Glamrock Feb 2018 #4
Thank you! Paka Feb 2018 #144
Thank you. K&R. DLevine Feb 2018 #5
Great op. I often wonder what drives people to be such mean justhanginon Feb 2018 #6
I'm turning into an angry person more and more nadine_mn Feb 2018 #9
K&R for this powerful post. Croney Feb 2018 #7
Exactly... but I likewise find it extremely offensive that the 'plan' was conflated to BlueApron hlthe2b Feb 2018 #8
No a DUer didn't make that claim, the Trump official did nadine_mn Feb 2018 #11
oh, ok. thanks for clarifying as I didn't get that from subject line. It is intensely offensive hlthe2b Feb 2018 #12
Great post. pangaia Feb 2018 #84
Instead of a box of carbs and sugar they should assign each of these families to a local farmer Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #74
Agree, if I lived near you, I'd be happy to "subscribe" as many do with food coops... hlthe2b Feb 2018 #75
Listen to this post!!! Corporate America is making you sick Stargazer99 Feb 2018 #103
Thank you for this. Send it everywhere. When I read about the box I was disgusted. notdarkyet Feb 2018 #10
Christians the chief sponsors exboyfil Feb 2018 #63
I was shamed for it here several years ago. xmas74 Feb 2018 #13
If I could I would verbally beat down anyone who made you feel that way nadine_mn Feb 2018 #15
It was insane. xmas74 Feb 2018 #20
Great post! K&R nt TwistOneUp Feb 2018 #89
I'm so sorry that you were shamed; that's truly heartbreaking. TeapotInATempest Feb 2018 #76
Some was for her xmas74 Feb 2018 #116
Couple decades ago, a woman with her kids in front of me was making comments like that. haele Feb 2018 #85
I love you LittleGirl Feb 2018 #86
Here's the real question TwistOneUp Feb 2018 #90
Are you saying that a stay at home mom LoveMyCali Feb 2018 #97
No, not at all TwistOneUp Feb 2018 #105
You are my hero nadine_mn Feb 2018 #96
I grew up before food stamps. I know what it was like to see Mom and Dad not eat. haele Feb 2018 #100
You're right. xmas74 Feb 2018 #120
Try telling people here they shouldnt fat shame Trump or Christie... Adrahil Feb 2018 #106
I know. xmas74 Feb 2018 #117
Oh yes, there are some here who get joy out of demeaning or belittling others. 7962 Feb 2018 #113
Some of those who were part of it xmas74 Feb 2018 #118
Seriously? Good lord!!! 7962 Feb 2018 #119
I won't say who but I still remember xmas74 Feb 2018 #121
Great post. As a young woman who eventually left an abusive husband, I tried living on my own for a Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #14
This is exactly what was so heartbreaking for me as an advocate nadine_mn Feb 2018 #23
It's true Ohiogal Feb 2018 #39
I agree. Hubs and I were discussing the general lack of empathy these days...it is truly horrifying. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #57
Ive seen it on FB the trumpies scream about SNAP and how they cant afford chicken themselves maryellen99 Feb 2018 #24
Yes...They talk about dishonesty...but a relative of my disabled sister who lives with me was taking Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #58
That is the worst! Ohiogal Feb 2018 #78
The same ones who also yell about how people on assistance are getting 5k tax refunds maryellen99 Feb 2018 #107
Assholes who would be so audacious Ohiogal Feb 2018 #36
Exactly right. I have paid for groceries for people in line who are short of money or who are told Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #55
That's what a corn cob is for crazycatlady Feb 2018 #158
That is very clever. I am going to do that. Hubs travel I donate to the food bank too...a couple of Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #159
Superb OP. Thanks for sharing your relevant, significant views on this. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2018 #16
Excellent lillypaddle Feb 2018 #17
thank you! n/t bonzotex Feb 2018 #18
k and r ..nt Stuart G Feb 2018 #19
K&R. HughBeaumont Feb 2018 #21
Its all part of the divide and conquer fabric Sherman A1 Feb 2018 #22
The sad thing is that "liberals" do it too - unfortunately nadine_mn Feb 2018 #26
Agreed Sherman A1 Feb 2018 #54
The real message that needs to spread infullview Feb 2018 #25
Brava, Mahalo, Nadine! Compelling Cha Feb 2018 #27
Agreed Lithos Feb 2018 #28
K&R redstatebluegirl Feb 2018 #29
K&R and thanks! Thus post should go viral. nt tblue37 Feb 2018 #30
Hear, hear!! Well said! JNelson6563 Feb 2018 #31
Everyone should read your OP malaise Feb 2018 #32
aww thanks nadine_mn Feb 2018 #34
Save those tears and rant some more malaise Feb 2018 #38
EXCELLENT post. Ohiogal Feb 2018 #33
Cashiers love SNAP cards, hated WIC and food stamps nadine_mn Feb 2018 #37
A man who eats KFC and McD's and yet has gorged himself on the gov't teat in the form of tax breaks. GreenEyedLefty Feb 2018 #42
I have read this three times now writerJT Feb 2018 #35
Thank you - you are very kind. I agree with you nadine_mn Feb 2018 #40
Welcome to DU LittleGirl Feb 2018 #87
This: treestar Feb 2018 #41
Recent times DownriverDem Feb 2018 #43
No one should go hungry in this country ever mcar Feb 2018 #44
Some people (me included) also just don't have the cooking skills nadine_mn Feb 2018 #48
I love the idea of a community kitchen mcar Feb 2018 #50
A community kitchen is a wonderful idea. Ohiogal Feb 2018 #51
Juicing IronLionZion Feb 2018 #73
We have gleaning programs throughout Vermont janterry Feb 2018 #127
The report I saw mcar Feb 2018 #132
Volunteers go get it janterry Feb 2018 #133
Yes, volunteers go get it mcar Feb 2018 #136
Thank you...this is perfect! snacker Feb 2018 #45
These bastards only see it as a tool of class warfare to punish people for the sin of being poor. The Mouth Feb 2018 #46
K&R brave and brilliant and true. Of all the things that torture me the most... Guilded Lilly Feb 2018 #47
We tried Blue Apron. PatrickforO Feb 2018 #49
Excellent post. That's why I "heart" you. nt Ilsa Feb 2018 #52
Aww thank you so much!nt nadine_mn Feb 2018 #53
K&R ! Anon-C Feb 2018 #56
And while beating up on poor people not fooled Feb 2018 #59
The illegal invasions committed on LIES. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #152
K & R mountain grammy Feb 2018 #60
SO fucking great -- thank you! ancianita Feb 2018 #61
K&R, thanks yonder Feb 2018 #62
The problem with a box MFM008 Feb 2018 #64
A lot of that food won't get used MountCleaners Feb 2018 #124
I'm lactose intolerant MFM008 Feb 2018 #126
can't recommend this enough.... dhill926 Feb 2018 #65
"You will eat what we give you & you will like it." CrispyQ Feb 2018 #66
Well said! pandr32 Feb 2018 #67
A friendly reminder to all on this thread that it was Mick Mulvaney IronLionZion Feb 2018 #68
That is the prevailing cultural attitude for everything in America, not just food. procon Feb 2018 #69
Great post RhodeIslandOne Feb 2018 #70
Kick and rec backtoblue Feb 2018 #71
Excellent take on this Repug proposal. LuckyLib Feb 2018 #72
Thank you for this! My mom left my father when we were little because he was abusive and Luciferous Feb 2018 #77
I was stunned when I saw the discussion on this. murielm99 Feb 2018 #79
This is the best thing I've read in a long time. TeapotInATempest Feb 2018 #80
What happened to Republican "belief" in "small government"? ollie10 Feb 2018 #81
Well as a woman, Im relieved they have moved on nadine_mn Feb 2018 #83
snicker LittleGirl Feb 2018 #88
Word. WAY too much food shaming going on this country. Great example bullwinkle428 Feb 2018 #82
Heartily recommended! volstork Feb 2018 #91
All good points, but customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #92
No..it's a slippery slope first of all nadine_mn Feb 2018 #94
I will admit customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #98
Let's take soda or candy nadine_mn Feb 2018 #101
Well, for starters customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #102
You're forgetting that the working poor and disabled and EllieBC Feb 2018 #109
I just suggest it customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #163
DURec leftstreet Feb 2018 #93
These Republicans are inhumane. We have the worst of the worst running the country. YOHABLO Feb 2018 #95
k and r + many gazillion niyad Feb 2018 #99
OMFG--I just found the blue apron thread--it was even worse than I imagined. niyad Feb 2018 #108
Here???? EllieBC Feb 2018 #110
here on earth, not here on DU niyad Feb 2018 #161
Oh ok. EllieBC Feb 2018 #164
and, as the OP pointed out, many live in "food deserts", where the only food available is from niyad Feb 2018 #165
I experienced that in LA and Vancouver. EllieBC Feb 2018 #166
and, in an area with a short growing season, farmers' markets don't exist all year round. niyad Feb 2018 #167
From working on the other side of the application desk - I agree with you completely eleny Feb 2018 #111
Righteous rant! Thank you! Can I borrow this? dbackjon Feb 2018 #112
May I borrow it, too? And give you name credit? ancianita Feb 2018 #114
sure thanks! nt nadine_mn Feb 2018 #115
It isn't about food orangecrush Feb 2018 #122
I receive SNAP and I'm sickened by this atrocious idea........ mrmpa Feb 2018 #123
thank you Skittles Feb 2018 #135
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2018 #125
I never look at what someone else is eating. gvstn Feb 2018 #128
I had a friend who turned into a noodge about food. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2018 #129
Seems a very inefficient manner of distribution bucolic_frolic Feb 2018 #130
Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #131
Wonderful article Thank you Oppaloopa Feb 2018 #134
I'm of Irish Descent. I Don't Think Depriving People of Food Builds Character. TheOther95Percent Feb 2018 #137
Absolutely righteous rant. Ellen Forradalom Feb 2018 #138
standing ovation. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2018 #139
The Republican Party is a sham and a scam yuiyoshida Feb 2018 #140
Shameway Supermarkets Blue Owl Feb 2018 #141
Great post! May I borrow this? summer_in_TX Feb 2018 #142
Of course! Nt nadine_mn Feb 2018 #146
Whenever I hear anyone complaining about people "scamming" food stamps or welfare, I just want to Neema Feb 2018 #143
Proud to rec #300...n/t bluecollar2 Feb 2018 #145
Reminds me of the private prepared food the big corporations started applegrove Feb 2018 #147
K&R betsuni Feb 2018 #148
Wisdom well said. colorado_ufo Feb 2018 #149
God bless you for your passion and sharing what you know to be true Hekate Feb 2018 #150
This is why I don't believe "greatest nation in the world" crap nadine_mn Feb 2018 #157
Preach it! I'm sickened by what they are doing devolving sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #151
Absolutely get the red out Feb 2018 #153
GREAT POST Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #154
I wish I could have Rec 10.000 times ! syringis Feb 2018 #155
Great post. This should be required reading for all members of Congress. Arkansas Granny Feb 2018 #156
k & r forever They_Live Feb 2018 #160
I would love to see your post as an editorial at nyt, wapo, etc., and sent to all the freaking pubs niyad Feb 2018 #162
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