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30. So you can be nice all you want trump ocalypse.

Reply to Trumpocalypse (Reply #22)

Thu Feb 15, 2018, 12:38 PM

Feb 2018

But others have every right to be pissed and angry. Even if you are offended by it.

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Michael Cohen never said Trump HIMSELF didn't reimburse him for the $130,000 [View all] pnwmom Feb 2018 OP

Boy Cohen is a real lite brite isn't he? underpants Feb 2018 #1

Maybe, but more likely that he put in back in the news his way vs. some other story about to break. CincyDem Feb 2018 #2

Please don't play that game. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #3

Why shouldn't I? A lawyer tried to game us with some legalese. pnwmom Feb 2018 #4

It's playing a dishonest semantics game. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #5

What is dishonest about it? The Trump ORG and the Trump CAMPAIGN pnwmom Feb 2018 #6

Deal in facts, not possibilities Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #9

I AM. And the FACT is that the lawyer refused to answer whether Trump was aware pnwmom Feb 2018 #11

That is still playing semantics games. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #15

No, it is stating facts and drawing logical conclusions. We should be smart enough to do that -- pnwmom Feb 2018 #23

It is not stating facts Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #25

No, it isn't. pnwmom Feb 2018 #28

You're talking possibilities, not facts. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #36

I would be prepared to give Mr Cohen the benefit of the doubt meadowlander Feb 2018 #34

Asking questions is one thing Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #37

It depends on the degree of certainty you ascribe to the conclusion. meadowlander Feb 2018 #39

That's a dishonest argument Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #40

Science does not "tell us so". meadowlander Feb 2018 #41

No Gravity is a law Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #48

Why is it a dishonest semantic game to try to decipher what someone who may have very carefully Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #20

It is one thing to question what they said. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #21

There is nothing dishonest about pointing out the gaping holes in what he said pnwmom Feb 2018 #24

Yes it is dishonest if you make conclusions Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #26

There is nothing dishonest in laying out facts and then pointing out the logical conclusions. pnwmom Feb 2018 #29

Basing an argument on what someone didn't say is not logical Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #35

Pointing out what someone did NOT say is perfectly honest. And smart. pnwmom Feb 2018 #42

Still dishonest. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #44

And everything I said was a fact, or a conclusion based on the facts. n/t pnwmom Feb 2018 #45

Not when you draw a conclusion Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #50

You obviously never took a single logic class. You would have learned this in Logic 101. nt pnwmom Feb 2018 #51

No but took many ethics classes and basing a conclusion Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #55

fully agree with YOU on this subject!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 bluestarone Feb 2018 #46

That's just silly. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #27

Your concern is duly noted. Lisa0825 Feb 2018 #31

The argument can be made that it is an in-kind donation no matter where the money came from infullview Feb 2018 #32

Depends on what you're basing the argument. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #38

What assumption? infullview Feb 2018 #58

Good for Stormy! nt Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #59

I wasn't suggesting otherwise. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #64

We tried being honest and doing the right thing, and lose. pwb Feb 2018 #12

That is just rationalization Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #16

Wrong thing? You want to be nice.? Y pwb Feb 2018 #17

Yes fight for our rights Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #18

like using trumps name in your profile? pwb Feb 2018 #19

Not the same thing and you know it. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #22

So you can be nice all you want trump ocalypse. pwb Feb 2018 #30

Don't put words in my mouth. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #33

No one is making stuff up about what Cohen didn't say. It is a FACT that Cohen's pnwmom Feb 2018 #43

It also leaves the door open for Trump Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #49

That is irrelevant to this argument. Again, logic 101. You can probably find a class in it pnwmom Feb 2018 #52

I recommend ethics 101. nt Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #57

Funny, because you clearly never took that, either. n/t pnwmom Feb 2018 #60

Drawing a conclusion again Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #62

Someone who had taken an ethics class -- and remembered it -- surely would know pnwmom Feb 2018 #65

But you're not dealing in facts. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #67

Still drawing a conclusion Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #70

Again not logic, but ethics Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #69

That is about as intellectually dishonest a statement as I've read recently Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #66

Sorry what is dishonest is drawing a conclusion Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #68

Please point to a single conclusion in the OP Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #71

True Trump didn't say Trump didn't personally pay Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #72

You have not pointed to a single conclusion that was drawn. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #73

The top post speaks for itself. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #74

I walked through the OP line by line for you. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #75

The OP admitting to drawing a conclusion Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #76

It is not a false argument. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #77

Youre right its a moot point Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #78

Pretty sorry that after two days of ranting you cannot provide a single example Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #79

Im not the one ranting Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #80

He is a lawyer NewJeffCT Feb 2018 #54

Have you ever seen Cohen on TV? Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #56

He is the worst kind of lawyer: a Trump toady. But he is excellent at that job. pnwmom Feb 2018 #61

Trump toady! LOL Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #63

From Prof. Hasen Gothmog Feb 2018 #7

From Ari Melber Gothmog Feb 2018 #8

Yeah, there were so many sloppy headlines yesterday. pnwmom Feb 2018 #47

Everything about this is so obvious and clear oberliner Feb 2018 #10

Josh Marshall on Cohen: he's a seriously rich Trump crony who wouldn't need specific paying back muriel_volestrangler Feb 2018 #13

Doesn't matter. It doesn't change the fact that he never said Trump didn't reimburse him -- pnwmom Feb 2018 #14

As has been discussed in detail by legal experts, the key word in all this is FACILITATE, Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #81

Exactly right. "Facilitate" could have meant almost anything. pnwmom Feb 2018 #82

He is a courier for services rendered. Deb Feb 2018 #53