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tritsofme

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102. I was her strongest advocate in 2008 and 2016, now it's time for a new face.

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Sun Feb 18, 2018, 04:11 PM

Feb 2018

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For those who think Hillary Clinton will be "too old" to run in 2020, consider this: [View all] George II Feb 2018 OP

"There's no education in the second kick of a mule." DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #1

Dem, Hillary is STILL the most prepared candidate Hortensis Feb 2018 #31

I swear people are just trying to get a rise... Baconator Feb 2018 #144

I would argue she was cheated out of a win DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #159

Disagree. Plus, she would have won any halfway normal Hortensis Feb 2018 #165

I would have to agree with you on every point. smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #197

Life is unfair. She was screwed out of a win. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #200

I am reading her book "What Happened" triron Feb 2018 #187

+100 HopeAgain Feb 2018 #35

If we can find anyone else decent to run, we might as well give up kysrsoze Feb 2018 #47

So the older white man is unassailable, lapucelle Feb 2018 #84

That Really Blows My Mind Me. Feb 2018 #109

Gaffes... thats the best you can do? Like it or not, she is toxic... kysrsoze Feb 2018 #111

Lovely Sentiment Me. Feb 2018 #115

Yeah, thanks to her for her hard work. Agree. But its time to kysrsoze Feb 2018 #117

And Who Are You To Say? Me. Feb 2018 #118

Clearly those 3 million didnt get her into office. kysrsoze Feb 2018 #120

Guess You're Not Up On What Happened In The Last Election Me. Feb 2018 #125

Im not biased. I just dont want to bet again on a losing horsey kysrsoze Feb 2018 #127

See...THe Very Point Me. Feb 2018 #130

So? Have you read ANY news about the election and how it went down? George II Feb 2018 #136

It isnt about her being a woman. Its the effects of a 25 year kysrsoze Feb 2018 #116

The only two alternatives you mention by name lapucelle Feb 2018 #124

Quite Me. Feb 2018 #126

Haven't you heard? The Clinton thing is over. lapucelle Feb 2018 #129

I GUess I Should Me. Feb 2018 #135

If you read down the thread, I mentioned Duckworth and Castro. Try again. kysrsoze Feb 2018 #163

Why on earth would I try again? My point is already made lapucelle Feb 2018 #180

Agreed with you about Biden. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #146

If you don't think Biden, or any other candidate we run, won't be attacked mercilessly if he runs, politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2018 #209

let alone the third. shanny Feb 2018 #66

"... time for us to move on." rock Feb 2018 #78

Being the most qualified and being the best candidate are two different things Bradshaw3 Feb 2018 #112

Our opinions differ rock Feb 2018 #123

good quote! And quite true. WhiteTara Feb 2018 #185

What about a third kick? n/t kirby Feb 2018 #186

Sam Rayburn says no ! DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #202

Borrowing a phrase from McConnell, I see. Hhhhmmm!!!! politicaljunkie41910 Feb 2018 #206

"There's no education in the second kick of a mule. " DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #207

There have to be some new candidates Renew Deal Feb 2018 #2

Sure. But will any be AS GOOD AS Hillary, with her Hortensis Feb 2018 #42

Biden and Sanders, to start. kysrsoze Feb 2018 #48

Honestly, Biden fails on record, may excel on electability Hortensis Feb 2018 #52

I like Biden and Kamala Harris. (n/t) forgotmylogin Feb 2018 #110

I do also actually, Forgotmy. Obama felt Hortensis Feb 2018 #169

I like Biden. But Sanders should not run...not after the indictments yesterday and also there Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #54

My view is neither of them should run-Biden just takes us back to the Eighties-Nineties past, too. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #56

Lol. No surprise there. The surprise to me would be if Hortensis Feb 2018 #67

Most of the ideas I support do appeal to the "middle range of mainstream Democrats". Ken Burch Feb 2018 #98

You make the same mistake a lot of people do Hortensis Feb 2018 #175

I don't think you realize how condescending that sounded. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #189

It is pretty clear that the election of 16 was rigged by Trump loving Russians...so we can't take Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #193

I like Warren personally but she is not good at running for office. And she is from the East. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #192

I really don't get why this party is clinging to the old guard. smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #198

I don't think we should tack his wife's issues on him, unless Hortensis Feb 2018 #62

I never thought Bill Clinton's actions should be attached to Hillary but in an election that is Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #191

Agree. Whoever our candidate is in 2020 will be sprayed Hortensis Feb 2018 #210

I go back and forth on this...I think we should choose be candidate we deem best or want and fuck Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #217

:) If they don't the others will just double down. Hortensis Feb 2018 #220

I agree entirely with this post. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #221

So glad that wilderness trek turned out to be Hortensis Feb 2018 #222

Sanders? Only his hardcore, die-hard followers would vote for him this time lunamagica Feb 2018 #81

I won't vote for him in a primary this time. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #194

Unfortunately, your intelligent approach marybourg Feb 2018 #53

:) We're at least some ballast in the boat, right? Hortensis Feb 2018 #85

Agreed that whoever new comes along needs to ring all the bells. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #59

Same here..... vi5 Feb 2018 #178

Check out Jay Inslee, governor of Washington. nt Persondem Feb 2018 #133

We don't deserve her. IluvPitties Feb 2018 #3

Barack Obama was 48 when he became President VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #4

Yes, women of her generation have had so much power for so long. MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #5

Kamala Harris? Kirsten Gillibrand? VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #10

Blah blah blah. MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #12

I rest my case. VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #14

Yeah, I heard the same old shit before she won in 2016. MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #16

Trump should have lost the 2016 election by 10 points or more VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #18

+1 million!! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #25

Hillary won both contests against her male opponents by R B Garr Feb 2018 #41

True, and that was what helped the upset to occur treestar Feb 2018 #74

Wow. DURHAM D Feb 2018 #27

I think the Russians made a difference where it counted most. VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #32

Oh. DURHAM D Feb 2018 #33

+1 MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #39

How do you figure that? VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #86

Thank gawd we have real proof now that criminal indictments R B Garr Feb 2018 #99

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Feb 2018 #122

Sadly ,I 100% agree. Denis 11 Feb 2018 #71

Stein voters and lazy no show voters made the margin close enough lapucelle Feb 2018 #93

... but she's not. Baconator Feb 2018 #154

Wow, that's a really substantive, liberalhistorian Feb 2018 #75

Why do we have to hear the same crap about her again? MrsCoffee Feb 2018 #79

TAMMY DUCKWORTH! Squinch Feb 2018 #17

+10 VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #19

Wait... it's possible at least one other woman in the entire U.S. may be better than Hillary???? kysrsoze Feb 2018 #49

No one, man or woman, is more qualified than Hillary lunamagica Feb 2018 #82

Except that HRC can't win VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #89

i was thinking about Adam Schiff and her! CTyankee Feb 2018 #87

I'm with you on this. Our country has a lot of problems and I think Duckworth has what it takes to jalan48 Feb 2018 #103

They aren't. She almost won. treestar Feb 2018 #73

Ahhh. I see the russians have had their way with you. Jakes Progress Feb 2018 #229

+1 spooky3 Feb 2018 #30

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #6

George is a good guy. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2018 #7

Are "your" (sic) Russian? NastyRiffraff Feb 2018 #63

That is highly offensive. Who are you? At least I'm here in the fray.... George II Feb 2018 #104

I do too. She was terribly robbed, but the 20 yr campaign against her has been so devastating ecstatic Feb 2018 #8

This is something some of us tried to point out for years. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #55

Time to move on, Ken. The primaries are over. NurseJackie Feb 2018 #69

Your advice is good Bradshaw3 Feb 2018 #132

Ha! NurseJackie Feb 2018 #149

Toxicity can take down other candidates as well. ehrnst Feb 2018 #94

If that is a reference to Bernie, I've repeatedly SAID I don't want him to run for president again. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #100

Strawman much? ehrnst Feb 2018 #121

Ok...if not letting up on the tax thing with Bernie isn't about making him leave the Senate. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #141

"The tax thing" as you so dismissively put it, is basic transparency ehrnst Feb 2018 #166

And the people of Vermont have repeatedly re-elected the guy anyway. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #167

"Sloppy bookkeeping?" ehrnst Feb 2018 #168

He released returns during the last campaign. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #173

He released the summary page of his 2014 tax returns, not the full returns. ehrnst Feb 2018 #174

Not meant as a strawman. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #176

As I said, Vermont will decide what they want in a representative. ehrnst Feb 2018 #199

"Organic vegetable farmer Brad Peacock, 37, agrees with Sanders on virtually everything, ehrnst Feb 2018 #226

I support Linda Belcher, but she's running in Kentucky. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #227

It looks like Sen. Sanders is planning another run...and if that is the case how can we lambast Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #195

Bernie is obviously not personally corrupt, unlike Trump. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #218

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Feb 2018 #224

Plenty of straw men there... ehrnst Feb 2018 #225

How do you know that "the worst thing we're looking there is sloppy bookkeeping"? lunamagica Feb 2018 #215

just wanted to say i appreciate you trying to bring sense to the discussion questionseverything Feb 2018 #97

Thanks. I have no idea why anyone would be resistant to discussion and analysis Ken Burch Feb 2018 #106

agreed, the repubs cheat in a thousand different ways questionseverything Feb 2018 #113

There is also a mythology being established here that if only the primary hadn't been contested Ken Burch Feb 2018 #145

And there is truth there. There are no guarantees...but we would have had a better chance. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #196

What "mythology" are you referring to? ehrnst Feb 2018 #223

NO! liberalhistorian Feb 2018 #9

Honestly, I think they're all too old. Salviati Feb 2018 #11

I completely agree. I voted for her, but they are all too old. Lisa0825 Feb 2018 #57

They're all too old. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2018 #13

if she is the nominee I SUPPORT HER 1000% bluestarone Feb 2018 #15

As will we all VMA131Marine Feb 2018 #20

true bluestarone Feb 2018 #38

Isn't it fascinating that HRC is the ONLY potential candidate who is "too old" Hekate Feb 2018 #21

To be fair RandomAccess Feb 2018 #28

Not true. A LOT of us feel exactly the same way about Bernie or Biden. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #44

I just read several theyre all too old posts above yours BannonsLiver Feb 2018 #58

And they are going to trash talk the candidate whoever it is treestar Feb 2018 #77

women have to be twice as good to be considered half as good Skittles Feb 2018 #101

Yeah, she needs to "go away" we need to "move on." joshcryer Feb 2018 #137

She is not trusted GitRDun Feb 2018 #22

Hasnt she said repeatedly that she isnt running? Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #23

It's not her chronological age that makes her old customerserviceguy Feb 2018 #24

Great point, George! mcar Feb 2018 #26

K&R Gothmog Feb 2018 #29

I don't want any of the names listed to run. -nt CrispyQ Feb 2018 #34

There is a lot of upside to this. Now she is free to R B Garr Feb 2018 #36

Most of those who raised the age issue(plus her own stated wishes)about HRC running again Ken Burch Feb 2018 #37

All too old. We need younger blood. Golden Raisin Feb 2018 #40

You just tried to convince me that Clinton isn't too old to run... Captain Stern Feb 2018 #43

Plus... D_Master81 Feb 2018 #45

She's already said she's not going to run for pubic office again so...? jalan48 Feb 2018 #46

Yes, and IMO, they are all "too old." LOL femmocrat Feb 2018 #50

Everybody ages differently. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #61

This is of course true. femmocrat Feb 2018 #64

Yes. I know it's hard to tell because he is so fast. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #76

Especially with the fast forward effect engaged. R B Garr Feb 2018 #80

Cue: The "Yakkety-Sax" tune :-D NurseJackie Feb 2018 #164

lol, isnt that the Benny Hill music? R B Garr Feb 2018 #184

That altered footage is not new. lunamagica Feb 2018 #92

But still funny as heck. think4yourself Feb 2018 #107

I want neither Sanders nor Clinton to run...new faces. I think the indictments have made it so that Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #51

I love Hillary... but... BlueIdaho Feb 2018 #60

No thanks! I voted for Bernie in primary and Hillary in General Still In Wisconsin Feb 2018 #65

That's what I've been saying the whole time. You put it very well. Ken Burch Feb 2018 #105

This ooky Feb 2018 #158

It breaks my heart she is not President. Adrahil Feb 2018 #68

Thank you George, I'm with her too! lunamagica Feb 2018 #70

I don't think she is too old, since had she won, she treestar Feb 2018 #72

I don't understand why any of them would want to run loyalsister Feb 2018 #83

We need younger candidates. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #88

She certainly wont be too old, but there is baggage that comes with losing a GE that is certainly JCanete Feb 2018 #90

Are there no capable candidates under the age of 70? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #91

At this point, electable is more important than capable leftstreet Feb 2018 #119

Sad, but I partly agree. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #162

not too old, but weighed down with too much baggage Jersey Devil Feb 2018 #95

I love them all gibraltar72 Feb 2018 #96

This Va Lefty Feb 2018 #128

I was her strongest advocate in 2008 and 2016, now it's time for a new face. tritsofme Feb 2018 #102

No. And no Bernie, either. Time for the next generation to pick up the ball. Vinca Feb 2018 #108

I'd be honored to support her in 2020, but I doubt she will be willing to go through that all again. Bleacher Creature Feb 2018 #114

Much as I love her, I really hope she meant it when she said she won't run again. MoonRiver Feb 2018 #131

Hard pass... Baconator Feb 2018 #134

Hillary lost due to lies, but those lies are believed. We do not need the risk!! nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #138

She would be great and healing realFedUp Feb 2018 #142

It is not worth the risk IMO. We need a win in 2020! nt USALiberal Feb 2018 #143

I don't think it is a good idea. Kali Feb 2018 #139

I am 71 and think my generation has had its wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #140

Ageism isn't cool. Willie Pep Feb 2018 #147

They're all too old. n/t X_Digger Feb 2018 #148

I am mainly concerned about 2018, as that is the immediate thing, but... Exotica Feb 2018 #150

AMEN to all you said!!! Lisa0825 Feb 2018 #155

only if we have a dem congress other wise the GOP will spend all their time.. samnsara Feb 2018 #151

I'm 74 and in excellent health. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #152

That is weird considering Bernies age two years ago, even. R B Garr Feb 2018 #161

But Bernie is in great shape. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2018 #213

Yes, this kind of conspiracy about Hillary is a JPR R B Garr Feb 2018 #214

I'd jump on the HRC bandwagon in a nanosecond if she decides to run again! democratisphere Feb 2018 #153

Could I ask you a favor? GaryCnf Feb 2018 #156

She said I am done with being a candidate. bronxiteforever Feb 2018 #157

I disagree that any of the crap thrown at Hillary would be dismissed, no idea what evidence seaglass Feb 2018 #160

Thank you! Boomerproud Feb 2018 #170

I don't want any of them. JNelson6563 Feb 2018 #171

I think she has indicated her political career is over ....as a politician.. Dan Feb 2018 #172

Hillary lost.would lose again ollie10 Feb 2018 #177

I like all those people, but I don't want any of those people, we need new young blood Motley13 Feb 2018 #179

I would hope... Mike Nelson Feb 2018 #181

The trash will never be hashed out and dismissed, not for Republicans. Beartracks Feb 2018 #182

I don't understand why posts like these get so much emotion fescuerescue Feb 2018 #183

She won't run. n/t Lil Missy Feb 2018 #188

We need new blood. applegrove Feb 2018 #190

Bring back Al Gore....he's younger than them all. kentuck Feb 2018 #201

No. Enough disruption. She ran twice and lost the primary to BHO, then the election. elehhhhna Feb 2018 #203

The Democratic Party... Snackshack Feb 2018 #204

My vote next time around will be determined by one thing....issues. democrank Feb 2018 #205

She would have been a tremendous President and I'd vote for her. But, I just don't think it would Hoyt Feb 2018 #208

kick for visibility triron Feb 2018 #211

You've proven that they are all too old to run Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #212

They're all a little old (and pale) for the presidency. Orsino Feb 2018 #216

Love this thread! If two older men she beat by millions get to R B Garr Feb 2018 #219

I'd vote for her over any other possible candidate Jakes Progress Feb 2018 #228