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standingtall

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Reply to redgreenandblue (Original post)

Tue Feb 20, 2018, 07:16 AM

Feb 2018

there are still others at Democratic underground who still have not accepted that it was a mistake to demand Franken resign without giving him due process.

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Al Franken was sacrificed on the altar of "all accusations must be believed". [View all] redgreenandblue Feb 2018 OP

No sadly standingtall Feb 2018 #1

Oh yes indeed. It still amazes and saddens me. Tipperary Feb 2018 #24

I accept it was a mistake and was livid when it happened. But going forward there is no remedy for Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #48

The right wing (and Russians) are weaponizing Democratic issues to use against us. Adrahil Feb 2018 #61

I STILL have a few liberal friends who are sticking by the ..... LenaBaby61 Feb 2018 #63

And you are not allowed to criticize the Jr. Senator from NY! chuckstevens Feb 2018 #2

If she runs, Trump will win ollie10 Feb 2018 #4

Yeah. Historic NY Feb 2018 #54

She has been criticized extensively and repeatedly here oberliner Feb 2018 #55

You mean....all accusations are alike. Funtatlaguy Feb 2018 #3

Yes, there are no false accusations. IluvPitties Feb 2018 #21

The issue isn't whether the two are equivalent; the issue is what you define as unacceptable. brooklynite Feb 2018 #64

True that. Funtatlaguy Feb 2018 #79

Reactionary extremists on this issue certainly contributed, Hortensis Feb 2018 #5

I disagree. It was overreaction pure and simple. There was no other concern wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #6

You're missing the big picture. Sure zealots were a useful tool, Hortensis Feb 2018 #7

If she is the candidate I will vote for her. TNNurse Feb 2018 #8

Me too... let's just hope it never gets to that. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2018 #13

It won't. I haven't looked enough to know who's Hortensis Feb 2018 #42

I like Joe Kennedy III a great deal...may work for him in the primary if he chooses to run. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #49

That could be a lot of fun. Young people especially Hortensis Feb 2018 #68

No question. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2018 #66

No. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #9

Are you implying that the DUers who are still angry that Franken was scapegoated Demit Feb 2018 #11

Nothing on here affected my attitude toward Franken. TNNurse Feb 2018 #15

"Be careful whom you accuse. " NCTraveler Feb 2018 #25

People here saw that the railroading of Al Franken stank from the beginning. Demit Feb 2018 #51

Yep. It stunk. All the way around. No free passes. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #53

You apparently need reminding that people are still angry about what happened. Demit Feb 2018 #58

No reminding necessary. I appreciate it, though. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #60

They are being manipulated to sow discord in order to try to help Republicans...no doubt. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #50

so why did Franken admit to and apologize for something you think wasn't true? beachbum bob Feb 2018 #10

He didn't admit to any wrongdoing wellst0nev0ter Feb 2018 #77

Why did he apologize and resign? LexVegas Feb 2018 #12

I suspect he knew that the focus would continue to be on him and the Senate TNNurse Feb 2018 #14

How many justifications can be come up with that don't involve blaming the guy who did it? mythology Feb 2018 #18

Who Did Exactly What? ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #19

It's an attitude that equates all supposed acts of misconduct. IluvPitties Feb 2018 #22

You know what he did? He resigned! Why did he resign? You're going to tell me Squinch Feb 2018 #31

Once almost every Democratic Senator demanded he resign standingtall Feb 2018 #67

to spare his family Skittles Feb 2018 #75

I didn't expect heaven05 Feb 2018 #16

None were anonymous internet people. Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2018 #17

Some people sure do have a loose definition of real news media n/t kcr Feb 2018 #32

Yeah, legitimate newspapers and cable news... Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2018 #57

Thank you for this reasonable post oberliner Feb 2018 #56

If they were anonymous to the public than they were standingtall Feb 2018 #70

Yes, legitimate journalists just made it all up. Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2018 #71

What makes you so sure they were legit standingtall Feb 2018 #73

OK. nt Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2018 #74

I stopped believing all Accussers Motownman78 Feb 2018 #20

I think that's the flaw in the #metoo movement. IluvPitties Feb 2018 #23

Exactamundo! brush Feb 2018 #59

You applied that principle to Roy Moore, I assume? brooklynite Feb 2018 #65

Moores accusers were vetted by the Washington post for months standingtall Feb 2018 #69

I did Motownman78 Feb 2018 #72

And you don't believe Trump's accusers either, correct? LexVegas Feb 2018 #76

No, therefore I do not comment on them either. Motownman78 Feb 2018 #78

No Franken was sacrificed at the altar of politics. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #26

Franken was not "sacrificed." There was no reason he had to resign. He had received Squinch Feb 2018 #28

Then he sacrificed himself. Trumpocalypse Feb 2018 #29

OK but that means he deemed it necessary. The decision was his. Squinch Feb 2018 #30

Ah, good. Backlash against "Me too." No, no one HERE is being manipulated! No way! Squinch Feb 2018 #27

If there is a backlash against me too, I will blame it on those who fell for the Al Franken smear kcr Feb 2018 #33

Do you mean including Al Franken? This "he was railroaded" stance is ridiculous. Squinch Feb 2018 #34

The stance that he simply chose to resign of his own free will for no reason whatsoever kcr Feb 2018 #35

Oh, no, he had reasons. People were saying mean things about him. Tell me what other Squinch Feb 2018 #36

Saying mean things about him kcr Feb 2018 #37

Tell me what other reason. I'm serious. What else was there that caused him Squinch Feb 2018 #38

Squinch, if Franken had stayed to be dragged through the Hortensis Feb 2018 #44

He had a LOT of support. His accusers were being picked off as false, or at least suspect, Squinch Feb 2018 #45

Well, you could be right. And certainly Franken had Hortensis Feb 2018 #46

He said himself in his resignation remarks Shrek Feb 2018 #39

Why not? Plenty have done it. I'm thinking of McCain with the Keating 5. That was just Squinch Feb 2018 #40

Ah, but McCain was always a media darling. Demit Feb 2018 #47

Without weighing in specifically on the OP, just reading this thread is probably the best still_one Feb 2018 #41

And here we have a vivid example of why I oppose "zero tolerance" policies Jake Stern Feb 2018 #43

There should have been an investigation. Franken should not have resigned...but now it is done. Demsrule86 Feb 2018 #52

good window dressing for more bias. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #62