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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
56. Oh, the country will last. What's dismantled can be rebuilt,
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 06:18 PM
Feb 2018

and better for some major shaking up. A big part of what's happening is attempts to institutionalize corruption, restructure our government to serve a few. The worst damage will be done to our ethical norms. But whatever we inherit, we will live with while we fix it and move ahead. Right now many are busily fighting to limit damage to institutions and injury to people.

Part of facing this bravely is not flapping our hands but understanding that we do have power too. You wouldn't be posting this OP if you read the many things people are doing to combat this attempt at takeover.

The huge thing, of course, is that the law is on our side. It really would be all over if the law was on the side of the Vichy and Banana Republicans. But it's not. It's a major barrier to them, the more so as they fear prison. SCOTUS is a worry of course, as serious losses there would take much longer to fix, but most of the judiciary is on our side.

But many people in public and private institutions are on our side. Many foreign governments are on our side.

And we also have over 200 years of deeply engrained democratic traditions that are what America means to its people. They've been careless about it because it's so much us we never really thought we could lose it. But we had a majority of the electorate even before the 2016 wakeup call. We lost in in 2016 only because of new types of machinations to keep people from voting for us, but our majority'll be larger this time. And chances are excellent Republican turnout will drop. Even if only a couple of percentages, that's also huge.

If you want to worry about something, you're welcome to share mine. That even if we sweep in 2018 and 2020 this won't be over. As long perhaps 16,000 people in our new ultrawealthy classes can buy whole legislative majorities without even missing the money, democracy is in serious trouble.



Th control of all parts of the Government edhopper Feb 2018 #1
Hope you brought a lawn chair, to sit in and grouse while the rest of us rescue the country. (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2018 #2
".. a lawn chair.." Right.. we need all Cha Feb 2018 #39
You misunderstand edhopper Feb 2018 #47
I dont misunderstand. I disagree. Much - but not yet enough - is being done. Reject Fatalism. (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2018 #50
Then we do disagree edhopper Feb 2018 #55
200,000,000 registered voters, edhopper, maybe 16,000 Hortensis Feb 2018 #46
Read my post #47 edhopper Feb 2018 #48
Oh, the country will last. What's dismantled can be rebuilt, Hortensis Feb 2018 #56
+1. Getting Citizens United/Corp citizenship repealed is crucial to prevent more of the same. (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2018 #61
ASAP. CU is a SCOTUS decision, of course, and Hortensis Feb 2018 #62
he is a bit late to the fucking party, isn't he? Skittles Feb 2018 #3
+1 dalton99a Feb 2018 #6
bedazzled Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #12
What! You mean the Mustache of Understanding didn't notice until now?!?! scarletwoman Feb 2018 #16
The prayer wheel! Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #34
Remember? Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #35
Hi Gabi! The Prayer Wheel has always been there. scarletwoman Feb 2018 #65
'the Mustache of Understanding' bigtree Feb 2018 #49
Do you remember the "Get Your War On" comics from during the bush* maladministration? scarletwoman Feb 2018 #64
We've been saying it. bdamomma Feb 2018 #21
I'll accept anyone, anytime who comes back to reality. Pobeka Feb 2018 #31
What to do about Fox News? Sophia4 Feb 2018 #4
maybe a few folks will go to jail. mopinko Feb 2018 #7
There is an historical precedent. ChazInAz Feb 2018 #9
As for Tokyo Rose, she got off lightly, considering. Wednesdays Feb 2018 #43
Happy Wednesday! True Dough Feb 2018 #51
There should be a law that requires reasonable neutrality in order... Lucky Luciano Feb 2018 #11
There was. It was called the Fairness Doctrine. Mr.Bill Feb 2018 #14
Yup orangecrush Feb 2018 #25
Indeed GeoWilliam750 Feb 2018 #22
"The biggest threat to the integrity of our democracy today is in the Oval Office." dalton99a Feb 2018 #5
boy, nothing gets past that Tom Friedman ProfessorPlum Feb 2018 #8
Sharp as a beach ball, that Friedman. JHB Feb 2018 #38
He's coming up on Lawrence malaise Feb 2018 #10
I just saw him...very good! BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #13
Agree malaise Feb 2018 #23
For any youngsters out there, google: friedman unit hibbing Feb 2018 #15
Also - google "The Mustache of Understanding" scarletwoman Feb 2018 #18
Or "Suck On This" wellst0nev0ter Feb 2018 #19
Never forgive this Blecht Feb 2018 #33
Still hate that f*cker. Thanks for the refresher. Crunchy Frog Feb 2018 #36
Who does he mean when says "WE should go over there...," did he take part in combat operations??? FreeStateDemocrat Feb 2018 #52
Holy shit! As someone who mocked him, along with his Mighty Mustache of Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2018 #24
Taibbi, IIRC Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #32
What is the Republican party doing. erlewyne Feb 2018 #17
Thomas Friedman bdamomma Feb 2018 #20
Read the article SCantiGOP Feb 2018 #26
yes it will. spanone Feb 2018 #27
Just heard him on LOD Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #28
This is why I think Mueller will indict Trump. To send a message as to how serious this is. nt Quixote1818 Feb 2018 #29
"Thomas Friedman, Iraq war booster" moondust Feb 2018 #30
Would you rather he be cheerleading the other side? Wednesdays Feb 2018 #44
I'd rather moondust Feb 2018 #54
Did he mention the word "Republican" at all ? OnDoutside Feb 2018 #37
Yeah, Thomas Freidman.. but he still got Cha Feb 2018 #40
Mahalo Cha! spanone Feb 2018 #41
Better Late Than Never colsohlibgal Feb 2018 #42
About 3 Friedman Units too late The Polack MSgt Feb 2018 #45
Nice Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2018 #53
The "Moustache of Understanding" gets it. madinmaryland Feb 2018 #57
people still pay attention to Thomas Friedman? cab67 Feb 2018 #58
I like the posts on this thread. PatrickforO Feb 2018 #59
Trump's presdency was meant to divide and conquer us. nocalflea Feb 2018 #60
Friedman should be telling us to wait six months and see... Orsino Feb 2018 #63
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