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Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
Thu Feb 22, 2018, 01:17 PM Feb 2018

Can Alex Jones and his ilk be legally sued for slander and libel [View all]

for falsely smearing mass shooting survivors and their families? And if so, why has this not happened yet? And might this not be a good campaign for #NeverAgain to wage? You say we're all actors asshole? Let's give you the chance to prove it in a court of law.

My understanding of the matter is this: slander is spoken, libel is written. Alex Jones is guilty of both. To prove either, you must be able to prove in a court of law that the defendant did not tell the truth. Should be pretty easy here. A legal death certificate for each victim should suffice. And if they really need it. police photos of the victims, the ones never released to the public, should work. Not to mention first responder testimony, medical staff testimony, survivor eyewitness testimony, all those.

And finally, you have to prove that you were in some way negatively affected by said libel or slander. I don't think there's a single family of the Sandy Hook victims that did not experience harassment due to the damnable lies told by Alex Jones. I've also read about survivors of the Vegas shooting going through the same thing to the point where some of them had to close their Facebook pages and other social media. And now, the Parker students and their families.

Enough is enough. It's time to start fighting back against these smear artists and fear propagandists. As I understand it, truth is the only real defense against libel, meaning that Alex Jones would have to be able to prove in court that the shootings really were a hoax and these kids really are crisis actors as he claims. Tee hee. Good luck with that.

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Don't Believe So ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #1
How newpapers handle it is when they get something wrong, they print a retraction Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #5
Libel and slander are defamation. rsdsharp Feb 2018 #27
Here's the problem with this general class of question jberryhill Feb 2018 #2
A couple of things: Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #6
In a civil case you do not need proof beyond a reasonable doubt. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #30
Works for me. n/t Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #39
Thanks for answering much of my question (before I asked) Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #22
There's also the issue of damages. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #49
Thank you Puzzledtraveller Feb 2018 #65
He's Been Sued, OneBlueDotBama Feb 2018 #3
I think it's time he was sued again. n/t Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #8
AND SUED AGAIN !!!! trueblue2007 Feb 2018 #53
From a long ago tort mini class Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #4
Calling the families of massacred children liars and crisis actors Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #7
Again, post the direct quote jberryhill Feb 2018 #9
Right here: Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #10
Which statement are you referring to? jberryhill Feb 2018 #13
Even the statement Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #21
He did not accuse any identifiable person or persons of that jberryhill Feb 2018 #23
I don't agree with that at all Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #25
Okay, so, to recap jberryhill Feb 2018 #26
No I didn't say that. Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #29
You don't think they've gone over this? jberryhill Feb 2018 #31
I have no idea what has occurred to them Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #32
Ah, well then jberryhill Feb 2018 #35
I think maybe you underestimate how diffcult, financially and emotionally, Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #37
They are litigating already jberryhill Feb 2018 #40
Well you told me no lawsuit was forthcoming Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #41
I said that no defamation lawsuit was being pursued jberryhill Feb 2018 #43
Alex Jones does not have to name the Sandy Hook victims by name to be guilty of defamation Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #44
"No one has said that the people who lost loved ones didn't really lose loved ones." jberryhill Feb 2018 #46
No Alex Jones isn't the only one Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #47
You don't understand the structure of civil claims jberryhill Feb 2018 #51
"I don't know the totality of statements he has made." Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #45
oy vey shanny Feb 2018 #55
I don't know why this is so difficult to understand: Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #56
I don't know why this is difficult to understand: shanny Feb 2018 #57
Um, this is a FACT. Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #58
I get your outrage. It doesn't change what the law says and what the law requires shanny Feb 2018 #59
No, it was not explained to me Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #60
Yes he DOES have to mention them by name. shanny Feb 2018 #61
Show me the law or case study that says that. Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #62
... Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #63
ffs "a person" shanny Feb 2018 #64
A specific person, yes. Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #66
you are on the right side of morality but the wrong side of the law Takket Feb 2018 #68
The argument seems to be... jberryhill Feb 2018 #70
And here: Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #11
Again, what is the statement in the article or the video which is defamatory jberryhill Feb 2018 #14
Read the bottom article Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #16
Who is the individual defamed by that statement? jberryhill Feb 2018 #18
There is no one individual Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #20
You are really missing the point jberryhill Feb 2018 #33
Fine. Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #34
Which quote jberryhill Feb 2018 #36
If he's accusing the people we see on TV of being paid actors Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #38
And here: Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #12
Where did I say Alex Jones wasn't malicious? n/t Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #15
You said proof or intent to harm was required to prove libel or slander against a public official Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #17
Ok - I took it wrong - sorry Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #19
Intent to harm is not required. Ms. Toad Feb 2018 #50
Thanks n/t Yonnie3 Feb 2018 #52
NOPE titaniumsalute Feb 2018 #24
Why not? Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #28
By the way titaniumsalute Feb 2018 #69
Kansas has CRIMINAL defamation of character laws. WyattKansas Feb 2018 #42
No. NCTraveler Feb 2018 #48
LOL. I'd settle for commitment to an institution. n/t Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #54
Yep Exotica Feb 2018 #67
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