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In reply to the discussion: Sen. Sanders agrees with Trump that Amazon is problematic [View all]EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)272. Don't you know? ANYTHING short of "Bernie's so DREAMY!" is refitting the primaries
Even a comment Sanders makes in April 2018 agreeing with something Trump said in 2018 that Trump will use to his advantage in the 2018 midterms and 2020 general election.
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Doesn't he get trump is only going after Amazon because Bezos owns WAPO also, which regularly...
brush
Apr 2018
#232
If they're all done and out of work who's going to buy what he's selling? Maybe all the others...
brush
Apr 2018
#311
Doesn't make the greatest sense to destroy the middle class here to go after customers in other...
brush
Apr 2018
#498
This is getting critical. How long do they think their gated compounds will be secure if everyone...
brush
Apr 2018
#593
Why, he thinks we should look at the power and influence that Amazon has, of course!
Demit
Apr 2018
#10
He's also not the president. Why doesn't he introduce legislation that will do that?
George II
Apr 2018
#110
Let's not throw out universal healthcare or education with the other stuff.
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#259
Those who voted grudgingly after telling everyone they know and online...no matter how they voted
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#290
Maybe ask him that? But since you brought it up, what would you propose Trust Buster?
KPN
Apr 2018
#168
Then tell me, what issue do you and Sanders have with Amazon ? Enlighten me please.
Trust Buster
Apr 2018
#184
Left unmanaged ? What steps do you think can be taken towards a company that is abiding by
Trust Buster
Apr 2018
#193
Amazon is not an anti-trust issue. They do not preclude access to other retailers to anyone.
Trust Buster
Apr 2018
#220
theoretical presence versus practical presence. What is Amazon's market share compared to any
JCanete
Apr 2018
#347
That is a really bad idea...net positive or net negative...who decides that?
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#389
Demsrule....do you really really truly think there's no problem here? Do you think Amazon is not
JCanete
Apr 2018
#348
I don't think there is a problem. Amazon is successful. They have beat the competition. I don't
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#391
Is that your only metric really? Would you take those words and apply them elsewhere?
JCanete
Apr 2018
#394
That doesn't mean we punish Uber ...we change the minimum wage laws...and on a
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#408
Yes of course they do have business regulating industries. How could you possibly say they don't?
JCanete
Apr 2018
#449
No doubt the government needs to regulate business...but attacking a private company is not
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#479
That view pretends that these companies don't have heavy influence on politics
JCanete
Apr 2018
#497
Maybe they do...but I don't want politicians deciding winners and loser and than deliberately
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#509
what trump is doing is irresponsible. Lets not conflate everything together. If a company is
JCanete
Apr 2018
#512
There is no evidence that Amazon has done anything wrong...there is no investigation and this is not
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#535
Antitrust law is essential in our system. It should be enforced more than it is.
Sophia4
Apr 2018
#217
And because you have the freedom to buy from a lot of different companies, Amazon is not even
Trust Buster
Apr 2018
#221
I hope someone studies the market percentages and tells the real story on this.
Sophia4
Apr 2018
#223
And how do you determine access and competition if not in part by market share.
Sophia4
Apr 2018
#269
Demand determines that as long as the market is accessible. Amazon increased market accessibility
Trust Buster
Apr 2018
#300
Successful companies gain market share...it is why they are successful. It doesn't mean they have
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#392
Amazon isn't violating anti-trust...but I am sure that once Sen. Sanders says some will immediately
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#295
what the fuck...We need to regulate the digital world and Amazon. We need to, hey, bust trusts. What
JCanete
Apr 2018
#350
Amazon does not meet the criteria that would invoke a trustbuster...Trump just hates Bezos...and
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#293
There are plenty of online places to buy things besides Amazon. I like local retail and
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#393
"Bernie seems to be one of the only ones talking about it"? Isn't trump talking about it too?
George II
Apr 2018
#144
My kids and their friends don't like Sen. Sanders and will not vote for him.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#297
I think Sen. Sanders has lost more support than some realize. I see him trying to appeal to Trump
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#333
I don't know about any of that, but they want fresh younger candidates in 20.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#475
Oh please...some just have no interest in politics...Sander has little to do with it or most things
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#299
It makes me angry that we cant have these issues, he TAKES them from us. We
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#260
We Democrats are shooting ourselves in the foot. We need to remember the upcoming election...
marble falls
Apr 2018
#143
We are moments from annihilation of the human race and people keep insisting on
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#262
Don't you know? ANYTHING short of "Bernie's so DREAMY!" is refitting the primaries
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#272
It's an intellectually lazy way to bully people who are critical of what Sanders says and does in...
NurseJackie
Apr 2018
#376
He basically agreed with Trump who is attempting to destroy a company that has done nothing wrong
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#544
I'm old enough to remember a Democrat win the Michigan primary and I would have
safeinOhio
Apr 2018
#384
Ya want something new to worry about? Open primaries, now in CA and elsewhere
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#264
But Hillary isn't stupid enough to do it in a way that sounds like she's on Trump's side and allows
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#183
This is not about large corporations. Thi is about the president of the United States going
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#537
Yup. Can't speak the truth about non Democrats but lies told for over a year about
Wwcd
Apr 2018
#416
Where, pray tell, did I say that Hillary should 'shut the eff and go away"?
whathehell
Apr 2018
#595
Precisely, for some, the rule of thumb is NEVER miss an opportunity to diss Bernie...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#86
Bernie should stop giving those "others" reason to be disgusted with his statements.
Wwcd
Apr 2018
#112
Bernies reasons for finding Amazon problematic have nothing to do with Trumps reasons
Kentonio
Apr 2018
#191
Bernie should have called out the president's obvious abuse of power not essentially agreeing with
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#539
Imagine if Hillary was on the receiving end of such ridiculous criticism every day.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#420
What does that have to do with current post-election comments here on DU?
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#550
LOL... is that all you have? Making stuff up I never said. Hahaha, good one!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#553
Yes IMAGINE, for comparison purposes-not saying it would be JUSTIFIED, so your point is nonsensical.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#569
Okay, you win Ehrnst... yes, I "moved the goalposts," riiiight. Good for you!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#585
Thank you for correcting me... hahaha!! (And for the good laugh!) Yes, you're SO right!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#587
Yup, I may never recover from your self-proclaimed display of brilliance & superiority.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#589
Because Hillary WAS on the receiving end of false stories/criticisms daily, many promoted on JPR
BoneyardDem
Apr 2018
#516
EVERY person who made it hard for our candidate to win is doing it still
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#526
But none of those things are the reasons for why trump and Sanders want the government...
George II
Apr 2018
#136
Exactly! What the hell whatthehell?! Just remember, no good deed goes unpunished around here...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#42
The dance that has to be done here when talking about someone who is not a Democrat
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#267
HOW is this "re-fighting the primaries"? Who is talking about the primaries anyway?
George II
Apr 2018
#114
Thank you for that. Sorry you have to get ridiculed for being open, honest and truthful.
KPN
Apr 2018
#133
One of the reasons I don't comment as often... the personal attacks are out of control here.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#555
Presidents and sitting Senators should not comment on a private company period end of story. Amazon
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#5
What about Halliburton, Hobby Lobby, Sinclair Broadcasting, Fox News, Phillip Morris, BP, etc.
progressoid
Apr 2018
#31
Absolutely not. You run the risk of hurting a private company. You only help Trump by supporting
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#69
You have Trump going after Bezos. It is personal...and it is wrong. A sitting Senator or president
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#302
You do understand that Amazon has lost billions of dollars and market is tanking right?
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#303
They should not run to TV stations and bash companies...legislation or hearings in Congress are
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#334
That's crazy! Guess we shouldn't regulate businesses, like investment banks, esply if it requires
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#424
You nailed it. The point is NOT AMZN. The pt is using bully pulpit for PERSONAL VENGEANCE.
Honeycombe8
Apr 2018
#426
I don't see that Amazon is a problem but if it is deemed so than it can be looked into...however,
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#480
Politicians need to stop reacting to the substance of his personal attacks, and focus
Honeycombe8
Apr 2018
#485
Exactly, and I would bet serious money that someone...either Donnie two scoops, friends or family
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#510
that really makes no sense. Of course they need to. If you are suggesting something is wrong with a
JCanete
Apr 2018
#455
I think since Trump is lying that he could be sued... and here is the thing...I don't care what
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#519
on what grounds? What law? Corporations are public entities and not people secure in their privacy,
JCanete
Apr 2018
#457
You can affect the stock first of all...whether there is a law or not, it is wrong. A member of the
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#476
Actually there was a ruling that made corporations people...but I will say just one thing. You know
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#477
I agree with you that Presidents wield a huge ammount of power regarding this, but it is not
JCanete
Apr 2018
#521
Listen I hear you but I have to say that if say Nancy Pelosi had done this or Joe Manchin, you might
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#534
Halliburton was being investigated for breaking the law. Amazon is being slandered by DT.
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#560
No, the argument was that no sitting Senator or President should EVER talk about a company.
Cuthbert Allgood
Apr 2018
#577
Trump certainly is- which is why Sanders should have stuck to labor laws and minimum wage- without
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#582
So you don't have a problem with the factualness of what Sanders said
Cuthbert Allgood
Apr 2018
#583
Sanders was talking about Amazon becasue of Trumps lies. Job one is to say they are lies. Then you
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#584
Jimmy CARter did it also and I immediately spoke out about it, NOBODY is to normalize that
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#268
when something is accidentally said that is sane, you cannot walk away from that sane thing and just
JCanete
Apr 2018
#458
Problem with "both move on" is one is still an elected official, so he wont move on AT ALL
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#270
Hillary tells the truth about Trump voters and McCaskill criticizes her and folks cheer
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#438
There are over 90 million Prime members in the US. There are 126 million households
FarCenter
Apr 2018
#20
Whining about Walmart hasn't worked. When one opens, consumers abandon main street
FarCenter
Apr 2018
#49
What is the most efficient way of moving goods from source to consumer's homes?
FarCenter
Apr 2018
#70
Are they worse than the previous system of small retailers, distributors, and wholesalers?
FarCenter
Apr 2018
#210
THIS... of course we should speak I'll of these predatory companies and those who represent them.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#429
My gods, what is trump going to do NEXT that some liberal representative is going to agree with
JackInGreen
Apr 2018
#22
A great The Nation article on this subject (it goes WAYYYYYY beyond bookstores)
progree
Apr 2018
#77
You posted this twice today. Racking up the attacks on Bernie? Boring!
left-of-center2012
Apr 2018
#47
Because the people hearing Bernie agree with Trump are really going to pay close attention to WHY
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#170
Amazon is problematic. Trump hates amazon for the wrong reasons but it doesn't mean
SweetieD
Apr 2018
#53
For sure, people will learn the reason for anti-trust legislation sooner than later.
appalachiablue
Apr 2018
#240
That is nonsense...what exactly is the problem with Amazon? I don't see one.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#306
Bernie lives in Bernie's world and I don't think he is paying attention
democratisphere
Apr 2018
#54
Right. There are lots of closet libertarians who don't care about working people
progree
Apr 2018
#301
Fuck Trump & Fuck Amazon too! They both manipulated their environments to become successful.
TheBlackAdder
Apr 2018
#83
Bernie is going after those young voters, like those being led by David Hogg and his friends...
kentuck
Apr 2018
#88
Wow! I wonder why he flipped his opinion. What changed between then and now?
NurseJackie
Apr 2018
#116
You can't nationalize millions of small businesses, but you can nationalize a few large ones.
FarCenter
Apr 2018
#228
No you can't nationalize private businesses of any sort...that is called theft.
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#308
I absolutely am against that and the banking issues in 2008 were different...they agreed to it in
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#328
He was all over television yesterday morning. The reason Congresspeople and Senators...
George II
Apr 2018
#111
What I care about is him cozying up to trump, and him railing about Amazon even while....
George II
Apr 2018
#275
I've been wondering about that, George. When does this guy work? It seems he is all over the place
lunamagica
Apr 2018
#336
I think it is best not to give Trump ammunition to shoot those standing up to him
KitSileya
Apr 2018
#139
No I don't. There is no law nor should there be about how big a private company should be...all this
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#310
The "mom and pop" who owned small businesses were the local country club elite.
FarCenter
Apr 2018
#155
Not before Sanders said it...sure I would like better working conditions for employees but
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#315
Amazon didn't shut down mom and pop businesses, Amazon shut down big stores like Borders
JI7
Apr 2018
#451
And it is one of many...we need national worker's rights legislation and in the meantime targetting
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#316
To equate what Sanders said with what the PGIC said is problematic at best...
Ferrets are Cool
Apr 2018
#148
Let's see. Sanders gets asked a question (without any specific reference to Trump or his position).
KPN
Apr 2018
#164
No Amazon is not a monopoly...and both Trump and Sen. Sanders never mention the monopoly
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#320
I don't agree with you or the article...you want to end a monopoly end internet and cable monopolies
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#325
Bernie needs to go and sit his ass down someplace. His ovetures to the trump voting public
Afromania
Apr 2018
#166
Yeah, he had no name recognition despite being in congress for decades...how that was seen as
lunamagica
Apr 2018
#346
You have no answers. Asking about why he refuses to show his tax returns is not
lunamagica
Apr 2018
#446
That will never happen. He has the ability to spoil 2020 for the Democrats as Nader did,
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#322
Wishful thinking. Many Democrats and Independents admire and agree with Senator Sanders
KPN
Apr 2018
#196
I like his policy positions fine but he creates his own divisions when he attacks the people he's
Afromania
Apr 2018
#201
I disagree that he does that. Been a registered Democrat, loyal Democratic voter since 1972.
KPN
Apr 2018
#207
That's what he's doing and while he does vote with us he's not doing any favors with
Afromania
Apr 2018
#225
His spouting off in support of DT's PR stunt isn't the solution. Bernie should have explained
pnwmom
Apr 2018
#357
Sick of people telling Bernie to shut up... Bernie has every right to espouse his views...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#441
You're suggesting Bernie's a "complete asshole"? Just wow!! That'll unite the party!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#432
We can fight and squabble with each other as much as we want. Once whoever it is wins the democratic
Afromania
Apr 2018
#487
because that isn't being an apologist for trump. this is stupid. So stupid. If Trump came out and
JCanete
Apr 2018
#561
These aren't difficult to answer if you set aside your bias for a minute or two.
SomethingNew
Apr 2018
#218
If I have a problem with an organization or seller, I stop doing business with them. It's simple.
George II
Apr 2018
#234
I don't rail against banks or oil companies or our electric company, and....
George II
Apr 2018
#238
You're projecting way too much on this. So what were YOU referring to about my quote?
George II
Apr 2018
#372
You've specified your way into irrelevancy and an unprincipled no man's land.
SomethingNew
Apr 2018
#383
Insult much? So you draw a false conclusion about what I said, get outed for it, so....
George II
Apr 2018
#385
This is nearly the most delusional interpretation of a conversation I've ever seen.
SomethingNew
Apr 2018
#461
I think if you took a couple steps back and looked at your posts with a degree of remove,
SomethingNew
Apr 2018
#287
p.s. 20% of the local economy in my area is Amazon "logistics" i.e. warehouses and delivery.
ucrdem
Apr 2018
#235
Amazon Is My Company's Biggest Competitor - I Love Paying Twice As Much For Shipping
PaulX2
Apr 2018
#226
Amazon owner Steve Bezos is also the richest person in the US. Does this make him an oligarch?
jalan48
Apr 2018
#248
It is not a monopoly just because it is large and successful and a politician you like spoke against
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#324
I disagree. Twelve Democrats sent a letter addressed to the Department of Justice and Federal Trade
CentralMass
Apr 2018
#445
I would hope and assume that if any of the Democrats who signed that letter were asked, as
CentralMass
Apr 2018
#505
The only bogus claims are those asserting that Amazon is violating anti-trust laws on this thread
Gothmog
Apr 2018
#532
The title of this post seeks to tie Sanders to trump. In saying that Amazon is problematic, Sanders
CentralMass
Apr 2018
#541
I am referring to this post entitled "Sen. Sanders agrees with Trump that Amazon is problem"
CentralMass
Apr 2018
#554
The lack of focus that you pointed out is why I have an issue trusting Bernie.
Blue_true
Apr 2018
#284
And the stock market is tanking because the Orange Idiot is tweeting about Amazon
RandySF
Apr 2018
#291
OK so Trump doesn't release his tax returns. Why does he get to criticize anyone else for it?
Initech
Apr 2018
#329
Precisely. Let's see both Trump & bern's full tax returns since they both think they can go after a
Wwcd
Apr 2018
#353
This makes no sense. I refuse to get on board the ridiculous politic that is doing our nation harm,
JCanete
Apr 2018
#341
Crazy is right!! But, why should that stop one from missing an opportunity to bash Bernie?!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#434
That's my issue with him as well. Too rigid & singularly focused. Easily played; can't adapt
ecstatic
Apr 2018
#398
Apparently so... hard to believe. But, hey, if Bernie's against giant corporations...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#454
it truly explains so much about the fights we've been having on these boards in the last year. Truly
JCanete
Apr 2018
#459
lol, Trump doesn't give a shit any of that. he is going after Amazon because of the Washington Post
JI7
Apr 2018
#470
seem like the Trump machine is succeeding in "Leading people by Confusion"
Civic Justice
Apr 2018
#472
hehe...I mean, getting martyred on a cross is a little on the nose, don't you think?
JCanete
Apr 2018
#564
oh dear...yes, I think a lot of things are funny. I can find humor in things I think are sad. I'm
JCanete
Apr 2018
#566
It is hilarious to see Walmart execs whine that Amazon is ruining 'retail' jobs. They destroyed
Demsrule86
Apr 2018
#540
is sanders really 24 years late to this debate? He hasn't talked about this shit ever before? hmmm?
JCanete
Apr 2018
#567
no. I don't begrudge people not being foolish and agreeing with a stopped clock when it happens to
JCanete
Apr 2018
#576
Donald Fucking Trump of all people is accusing someone else of being a tax dodge??
Blue_Tires
Apr 2018
#579