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12. You spoke for me

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Fri Apr 6, 2018, 11:06 AM

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An explanation of why Sanders' comments about Obama were offensive to many African Americans [View all] EffieBlack Apr 2018 OP

Hear, Hear! smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #1

The more you get to know someone... paleotn Apr 2018 #28

And recognize the significance of the event, the day, and the moment.... George II Apr 2018 #53

My Problem With Bernie DownriverDem Apr 2018 #108

That told me a lot about him too. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #339

It is my opinion that Sen. Sanders said exactly what he meant to say. He does not like President Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #362

So Bernie Hates Democrats PaulX2 Apr 2018 #389

He always has if you look at what he says...yes he caucuses with us but over the years he has made Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #391

Better Wall Street here with all the good jobs than in China. Our pension is invested in a 401k. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #420

Not a member in name only as he always caucuses with the dems onit2day Apr 2018 #373

I agree wholeheartedly.. whathehell Apr 2018 #394

A lot of good people voted for Bernie in the primaries. Blue_true Apr 2018 #169

I briefly considered him as well... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #341

I went to a BS heaven05 Apr 2018 #408

From what I've heard, your experience is not unique. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #418

You should have come to Memphis GaryCnf Apr 2018 #427

Forget Bernie DownriverDem Apr 2018 #410

I must admit Im at a loss as to why G_j Apr 2018 #2

I love that man, thanks for the reminder (btw, he's on AM Joy frequently) George II Apr 2018 #26

Love me some Dr Reverend Barber myself. BTW, I think he got ordained as Bishop last year. iluvtennis Apr 2018 #41

I think Rev. Barber gets his due DFW Apr 2018 #51

Not my experience, G_j Apr 2018 #63

Interesting you should post a link to the Nation DFW Apr 2018 #71

Ive heard many great people speak over the years G_j Apr 2018 #367

Yes, were HE a Senator, WOW! Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #52

Excellent explanation! Lars39 Apr 2018 #3

++++ Agree iluvtennis Apr 2018 #39

Thank you for this post. I hope those who need to hear this listen and try to understand! bobbieinok Apr 2018 #4

Thank you, EffieBlack. You have truly opened my eyes and you are right. hedda_foil Apr 2018 #5

Thank you, hedda and Effie, saidsimplesimon Apr 2018 #9

Thank you!!!! nt jrthin Apr 2018 #6

K&R betsuni Apr 2018 #7

Truly excellent post n/t DonaldsRump Apr 2018 #8

One of the best posts I've ever read at DU.. SidDithers Apr 2018 #10

Kick dalton99a Apr 2018 #11

You spoke for me SallyHemmings Apr 2018 #12

"He must do a better job of listening both BEFORE AND AFTER he speaks." NurseJackie Apr 2018 #13

Very well said dsc Apr 2018 #14

K & R! n/t billh58 Apr 2018 #15

A white guy here rock Apr 2018 #16

I once read something that applies here - haele Apr 2018 #17

I get what you are saying, but I think you did not get what Sanders was saying karynnj Apr 2018 #18

I don't think you got what I was saying at all EffieBlack Apr 2018 #25

This is a discussion board and even the OP can not say what is irrelevant karynnj Apr 2018 #57

I can tell you what I think is relevant or not relevant to what I wrote EffieBlack Apr 2018 #64

Rather patronizing on your part karynnj Apr 2018 #88

Your patience and attitude is amazing. I would not be so patient and reasonable. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #195

Sorry, I suggest you give it up roscoeroscoe Apr 2018 #196

I suggest all the people who immediately look for reasons to attack either Clinton karynnj Apr 2018 #268

I think its Sanders who originated this divisiveness by wrongly saying Dems are losing- he is bettyellen Apr 2018 #300

Thats a really good point. I hope it doesnt get lost in the thread. nt fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #385

Your patience and attitude is amazing. I would not be so patient and reasonable. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #131

Effie's context was very consistent. Blue_true Apr 2018 #181

You did impute what you thought Sanders said unc70 Apr 2018 #65

I didn't say that everyone must have shared my experience EffieBlack Apr 2018 #73

Does your experience make it impossible to understand Sanders? unc70 Apr 2018 #89

You imply your interpretation of Sanders' remarks are without error LanternWaste Apr 2018 #189

This! happy feet Apr 2018 #251

Sanders the New DEAL Lisa Ann Lib Apr 2018 #220

Then maybe he could actually JOIN the party he's trying to bring back to its roots? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #227

He has said he would join zentrum Apr 2018 #295

Principled? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #297

Agreed pandr32 Apr 2018 #332

VT has no mechanism by which to register as a party member, thesquanderer Apr 2018 #401

He is not to the left of democrats Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #244

We are to the left of him when it comes to guns and immigration. KitSileya Apr 2018 #269

Dedicated to Democrats! True Blue American Apr 2018 #292

Guess Why That Is DownriverDem Apr 2018 #411

Sanders view of TPP bordered on gibberish and I can prove it grantcart Apr 2018 #326

+1. NT Adrahil Apr 2018 #330

I agree completely and enjoyed reading your post karynnj Apr 2018 #334

+2. N/T Tarheel_Dem Apr 2018 #335

Kick for reality! mcar Apr 2018 #336

THANK YOU! President Obama was right. betsuni Apr 2018 #368

Thank you, grant, for this detailed Cha Apr 2018 #371

Great post. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #453

I don't think you get that was the wrong fucking event to go there with those comments nini Apr 2018 #359

Bernie has no business criticizing obama or Democratic party given us is not a democrat onetexan Apr 2018 #392

Go Away Bernie DownriverDem Apr 2018 #412

Spot on. brush Apr 2018 #19

The headline of all of the coverage of Sanders appearance is "Sanders calls Dems a failure" EffieBlack Apr 2018 #40

"He allowed the entire point of the day to be hijacked" The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #231

Id love to see a transcript... druidity33 Apr 2018 #322

You can watch the video and there are transcripts posted. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #365

I had to chuckle at some folks (in that long-long thread) who... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #20

It blows my mind.... Adrahil Apr 2018 #74

I think he see a distinction between the Democratic Party machinery and Obama elias7 Apr 2018 #397

Uhm, the person in question has constantly attacked the party and it's leaders Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #132

Only two possibilities, deliberate gaslighting, or their obsessive devotion to Sanders has blinded stevenleser Apr 2018 #255

I just disagree with you elias7 Apr 2018 #398

Nope there are no other possibilities regarding the OPs point(s) stevenleser Apr 2018 #402

I think both sides really dont get each other elias7 Apr 2018 #399

Aww. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #404

Your attitude towards me is exactly the problem elias7 Apr 2018 #421

Yes there is. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #428

We get the other side perfectly well. Its so superficial we couldnt miss it. stevenleser Apr 2018 #405

I agree with everything the OP said elias7 Apr 2018 #422

You have every right to your opinion and I would never tell you your opinion on something like this EffieBlack Apr 2018 #423

Thank you for your response elias7 Apr 2018 #437

I think some of the responses you're talking about were responding to you and others EffieBlack Apr 2018 #438

Thank you... elias7 Apr 2018 #439

We have found common ground! EffieBlack Apr 2018 #440

Here we go again. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #426

... betsuni Apr 2018 #413

Paternalism, dismissal.... LexVegas Apr 2018 #21

Spot on! Understood! Appreciated! And very well said. Ninga Apr 2018 #22

Thank you for taking the time Wheezy Apr 2018 #23

Well I'm African American kytngirl Apr 2018 #24

I don't think you're speaking for all African Americans leftstreet Apr 2018 #27

I didn't say I was speaking for all African Americans - in fact I explicitly said otherwise EffieBlack Apr 2018 #32

Ah leftstreet Apr 2018 #38

You missed my point EffieBlack Apr 2018 #47

Your point as you explain it, seems to be defending how you HEARD it. And that is what is important LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #234

I heard what Sanders said and agree with happy feet Apr 2018 #263

But can you at least understand that what you heard was not what he meant? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #266

My post wasn't about what Bernie may or may not have "meant"- it was about what he SAID and how it EffieBlack Apr 2018 #279

But what you perceived he meant is vitally important to your position! LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #310

That's fine EffieBlack Apr 2018 #445

Why dont you try harder to understand the points spooky3 Apr 2018 #48

Almost as if I could have bet you $1000 that would happen...and given 5-1 odds Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #139

"In any case, Sanders said Obama was brilliant and charismatic" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #49

"but, beyond that reality" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What about that is not being understood ?! uponit7771 Apr 2018 #113

It's EASY to see the fault in that, if you don't have Bernie-shaped glasses over your eyes. pnwmom Apr 2018 #225

'Bernie shaped glasses' melman Apr 2018 #265

Hmmmm... fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #386

I agree. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #299

Whoa, talk about tone-deaf! Sounds like the audience took this as another Sanders rally lunamagica Apr 2018 #144

Pretty interesting EffieBlack Apr 2018 #160

It is so incredibly disrespectful. There's no doubt that the only reason they were there was to see lunamagica Apr 2018 #182

Did Bernie eve mention DR King? nt Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #246

As far as I know, he did not lunamagica Apr 2018 #247

Shameful! Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #248

from your own link scipan Apr 2018 #284

Please note I didn't say he never mentioned Dr. King at all - I said he HARDLY mentioned him EffieBlack Apr 2018 #286

She specifically said volstork Apr 2018 #42

True, she said 'many' n/t leftstreet Apr 2018 #43

She is probably only speaking for about 98% of them, so naturally THAT is what Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #142

Isn't it amazing how the people that were actually there don't count? melman Apr 2018 #264

What do you think of this alternate perspective... thesquanderer Apr 2018 #29

I think it is much more valid unc70 Apr 2018 #66

How is one person's perspective based on their experience any more valid than anyone else's? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #76

Maybe by following your example unc70 Apr 2018 #91

You LITERALLY said Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #147

Thank you. KPN Apr 2018 #145

all - obama, sanders, and clinton, as leaders, have continued the biggest political mistake in histo certainot Apr 2018 #158

Racist, nationalist, and fake populist talk radio and TV bettyellen Apr 2018 #217

We dont ignore it. What would you like us to do about it? stevenleser Apr 2018 #424

liberals have been ignoring it for 30 years. to fix it digitize talk radio - so it can be read. certainot Apr 2018 #435

What Sanders said SCVDem Apr 2018 #30

Did you get that from an article, or post here, or RandomAccess Apr 2018 #276

I heard the whole thing EffieBlack Apr 2018 #285

I didn't ask you, Effie RandomAccess Apr 2018 #298

Sanders will need to attract new voters from somewhere to win the nomination. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #303

Why so snarky? Is it really necessary to be so dismissive? George II Apr 2018 #337

+1 fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #380

Thank you. The Bernie Rage Glasses are real... TCJ70 Apr 2018 #407

Its hilarious that you and several others dont get it. stevenleser Apr 2018 #414

Boom. Maven Apr 2018 #31

Perfect beyond perfect and put to words far more eloquently than I ever could have. You may not Afromania Apr 2018 #33

I will never forget this night: George II Apr 2018 #34

Yeah, that day, that accomplishment fucked up a whole lot of people. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #149

Pretty sure Bernie Sanders would agree with you on both. KPN Apr 2018 #154

Never will we have a better Leader. True Blue American Apr 2018 #176

President Obama has been the best President of my lifetime. Blue_true Apr 2018 #187

I'm pissed at what he said, and I was a Bernie supporter geardaddy Apr 2018 #35

OMG Effie I couldn't have explained it better myself BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #36

Thanks EffieBlack Apr 2018 #61

Being a minority BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #79

The word is "some" GaryCnf Apr 2018 #37

"my 4 decades plus living and working every day in impacted urban communities" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #60

And thank God True Blue American Apr 2018 #68

"Community Organizing" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #80

Yes, the tactics have changed.:) True Blue American Apr 2018 #94

Would love to see Espy get elected. BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #100

Send in AG Holder True Blue American Apr 2018 #133

And Holder's wife BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #155

Plus Mrs. Obama! True Blue American Apr 2018 #159

Well that's a given! BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #168

Of course True Blue American Apr 2018 #172

The spontaneity of that BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #175

Can you post that video? True Blue American Apr 2018 #178

Here ya go. BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #194

A True Leader True Blue American Apr 2018 #202

It literally BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #205

Same,every time I listen to it. True Blue American Apr 2018 #230

Oooooh, privilege speaks GaryCnf Apr 2018 #81

This is an anonymous internet board BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #104

That's certainly your privilege GaryCnf Apr 2018 #106

"Privilege" has nothing to do with it. BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #110

Your "spidey sense" is dead on. nt LexVegas Apr 2018 #119

It is indeed Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #153

Oh look, you have a cheering section GaryCnf Apr 2018 #209

Why are you concerned? BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #224

May I be honest for a moment? GaryCnf Apr 2018 #270

I have been on DU for 10 years BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #277

That's Garbage GaryCnf Apr 2018 #301

"for all we gave up, tell me what we got in return." BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #315

Okay, now that is just f'ing beautiful GaryCnf Apr 2018 #320

+1. Spidey sense is an invaluable asset when confronting anonymous internet denizens, and I think.. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2018 #243

If you suspect him of not being black, scipan Apr 2018 #302

I think your insistance on defining me BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #318

So, you assume that any black person who criticized Sanders in the past must have an ulterior motive EffieBlack Apr 2018 #69

If that was it GaryCnf Apr 2018 #93

I did too, I can read ... "but" did NOT belong in the statement that Sanders made ... uponit7771 Apr 2018 #116

Now that I can agree with GaryCnf Apr 2018 #177

Correct, that was the best possible spin. Which still indicates he doesn't belong on the national stevenleser Apr 2018 #256

That's your mistake.. not taking into account Cha Apr 2018 #356

Thank you, EffieBlack! spicysista Apr 2018 #44

Amen. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #45

What a great, great post - thank you. people Apr 2018 #46

They are either racist, indifferent to his racism, which is racist, or they just Doodley Apr 2018 #321

I appreciate your well thought out post.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #50

Yes. YES. K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #54

Thank you,Effie Black True Blue American Apr 2018 #62

Outstanding! Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #55

Obama was a brilliant man and President who took office during a tumultuous time in American history Pepsidog Apr 2018 #56

Phenomenal post, Effie! Nt Anon-C Apr 2018 #58

Curious how bernie ended up at that event when there are many many far greater than him Wwcd Apr 2018 #59

Ignoring everything after the but is a convenient way to ignore the rest of what was said TCJ70 Apr 2018 #67

So how is bernie's campaign 2020 going so far? Wwcd Apr 2018 #83

Again, you're explaining what he "meant" and ignoring how it was heard by other people who may see EffieBlack Apr 2018 #92

An interpretation isnt valid if you have to see words that arent there TCJ70 Apr 2018 #99

You mean like interpreting the rest of the comment as "reinforcing the compliment to President Obama EffieBlack Apr 2018 #107

A question then... TCJ70 Apr 2018 #114

Yes, he probably would have been criticized for not mention the first black president at an event EffieBlack Apr 2018 #129

It's amazing to me that... TCJ70 Apr 2018 #134

Yes, I guess it is amazing to you EffieBlack Apr 2018 #140

re: "mentioning nothing about his accomplishments, his legacy" etc. thesquanderer Apr 2018 #309

He didn't answer the question, either. He just babbled on for 4 minutess EffieBlack Apr 2018 #311

Well, GOTV is a strategy, right? thesquanderer Apr 2018 #331

These aren't the droids you're looking for IronLionZion Apr 2018 #109

Agreed. n/t TCJ70 Apr 2018 #117

BINGO !!! THAT criticism of the DNC wasn't even needed at that event in context to the uponit7771 Apr 2018 #120

Sorry but the "But" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #98

If you remove everything before the but... TCJ70 Apr 2018 #103

So now you have re-manufactured the statement BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #105

You said "the "But"completely wipes out what came before." TCJ70 Apr 2018 #112

By eliminating, literally everything before the "but" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #126

Eliminating any mention of the first African American president at an MLK commemoration event... TCJ70 Apr 2018 #143

He can mention the name of the first AA POTUS but not in the unfair negative context uponit7771 Apr 2018 #152

So then BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #193

.... and not needed in that setting !!! The CEO of GM is great but GM sucks is not the type uponit7771 Apr 2018 #125

RIGHT !!! Damn, they act like we can't read ... But means in contrast to which either uponit7771 Apr 2018 #122

You notice that Angus King is an (I) BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #137

+1, every time we turn around something negative about the DNC comes out of Sanders mouF uponit7771 Apr 2018 #146

Exactly. BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #167

So Sanders and every I should follow KPN Apr 2018 #185

That's not what I wrote BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #204

Well, we disagree. I don't see Sanders as KPN Apr 2018 #213

"He's accomplished a lot in educating people about economic inequities over the past 30 years" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #222

Right. It's been a long struggle. At the KPN Apr 2018 #250

The problem is this BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #262

+1 betsuni Apr 2018 #387

That's odd. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #377

I didn't say anything even closely approximating Bernie being the only person KPN Apr 2018 #432

"Who else has been getting up to 20,000 people to show up to hear him/her speak?" Trump EffieBlack Apr 2018 #434

Oh brother. OK, you dislike Bernie. I get it. KPN Apr 2018 #436

There are many reasons for the losses and have nothing to do with Democrats failing. honest.abe Apr 2018 #101

The "But" was not needed in the statement at all !!! uponit7771 Apr 2018 #118

So what does "that reality" refer to in the statement? n/t TCJ70 Apr 2018 #124

Something negative about the DNC that Obama was leader of which wasn't needed uponit7771 Apr 2018 #127

Thank you. KPN Apr 2018 #171

Thank you Effieblack!...No lies were told.. HipChick Apr 2018 #70

Beautiful honest.abe Apr 2018 #72

K and R BadgerMom Apr 2018 #75

So well said! mcar Apr 2018 #77

Sanders comments were also offensive to non-African American supports of Pres. Obama Gothmog Apr 2018 #78

Wrong time,wrong place. True Blue American Apr 2018 #96

***WINNER*** I did not look at your post before posting multiple times his comment at best uponit7771 Apr 2018 #130

Plus GM True Blue American Apr 2018 #150

Two standing ovations, beg to differ! HenryWallace Apr 2018 #148

I am discussing what True Blue American Apr 2018 #156

Wait a minute HenryWallace Apr 2018 #203

Setting aside the fact that Dr. King was likely a Republican ... EffieBlack Apr 2018 #211

Read the transcript, everyone on the dais failed to explicitly praise Dr. King. HenryWallace Apr 2018 #307

The discussion isn't about his speech or tweets "the day before." EffieBlack Apr 2018 #312

May I thank you for seeing the small picture! HenryWallace Apr 2018 #325

The criticism of Sanders here from DU blacks is in context of Sanders consummate bashing of the uponit7771 Apr 2018 #157

Amen! True Blue American Apr 2018 #163

Wow.... HenryWallace Apr 2018 #206

Gerrymandering and voter suppression had NOTHING to do with losses of seats?!!!? uponit7771 Apr 2018 #278

They have everything to do with this last few elections! True Blue American Apr 2018 #294

Standing ovations by an audience that was 98% white and filled with Sanders supporters EffieBlack Apr 2018 #166

And you wrote such a beatiful piece. HenryWallace Apr 2018 #214

Here's my source EffieBlack Apr 2018 #216

Here is mine HenryWallace Apr 2018 #229

I'll go with the bylined, published news account instead of a couple of tweets from HootHootBern & EffieBlack Apr 2018 #232

HootHootBerns? sheshe2 Apr 2018 #333

I know, right? LOL SunSeeker Apr 2018 #343

What a hoot! sheshe2 Apr 2018 #351

LOL SunSeeker Apr 2018 #360

Here is a tweet with a pic from the rear of the auditorium BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #249

Two standing ovations by whie people wearing #feelthebern t shirts? lunamagica Apr 2018 #190

Let me guess, you don't trust eye withneses? HenryWallace Apr 2018 #219

Because a random tweet from TerriPA83580581 EffieBlack Apr 2018 #228

Here is a second random tweets HenryWallace Apr 2018 #305

Eyewitnesses are famously unreliable lunamagica Apr 2018 #237

Let take a look at the video shall we. HenryWallace Apr 2018 #306

What is this video supposed to prove? lunamagica Apr 2018 #308

Thank You. Mister Ed Apr 2018 #82

Well stated. Skidmore Apr 2018 #84

Well said! HenryWallace Apr 2018 #85

Thanks for this, Effie NastyRiffraff Apr 2018 #86

This is beautiful. LisaM Apr 2018 #87

Wonderful, clear explanation pandr32 Apr 2018 #90

Thank you! Richluu Apr 2018 #95

Everybody will interpet anything like this through their own filter. The Mouth Apr 2018 #97

President Donald Trump, the white Don King.... Such a loaded criticism packed into so few words zaj Apr 2018 #102

Pretty much nails it though, doesnt it!! nt 7962 Apr 2018 #128

You speak for this white woman, Effie. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2018 #111

The Democratic losses are not down to the President either treestar Apr 2018 #115

Obama was responsible for DWS staying in her post was he not? Kentonio Apr 2018 #393

I suppose. But people tend to oversimplify treestar Apr 2018 #416

WOW!!! What an articulate thought provoking OP. That double standard is a manifestation of still_one Apr 2018 #121

Thank you for this synopsis, it really helps with the larger context. lark Apr 2018 #123

Wow, Effie, this was just wonderful...thoughtful, brilliant explanation lunamagica Apr 2018 #135

Damn Skippy! MrScorpio Apr 2018 #136

Thanks, EffieBlack your insightful OP is greatly appreciated. oasis Apr 2018 #138

BRILLIANT! Huge K&R, w/gratitude. n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2018 #141

Let the 2020 Primary Begin! Billy Jingo Apr 2018 #151

How sad that such a heartfelt, thoughtful respectful explanation lunamagica Apr 2018 #164

That was a thoughtful response Billy Jingo Apr 2018 #174

And you are white, right? Why don't you make an effort to see his comments lunamagica Apr 2018 #186

I made the effort Billy Jingo Apr 2018 #218

A thoughtful and inclusive explanation of your position in regards to Senator Sanders... Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #161

Thanks for taking time to read and think about my OP and for taking time to respond so thoughtfully EffieBlack Apr 2018 #184

I find all of your added thoughts here to be constructive Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #188

Those who want to understand will, those who still can't let go of their historical grooming won't Civic Justice Apr 2018 #357

Excellent post Blue_true Apr 2018 #162

Dellums is still out there BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #272

Thank you! This is a really important reminder. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #275

Once again Plucketeer Apr 2018 #165

um ... EffieBlack Apr 2018 #170

yup! Plucketeer Apr 2018 #179

Those determined to employ the Bernie filter BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #192

Yup. ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #200

+1 LOL fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #383

You proved how easy it is to reply with a standard stump speech instead of on point to the OP stevenleser Apr 2018 #258

I'm going to have my newly qualified household voters, read this BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #173

It's all about Bernie. He would have said the same thing if we had a white Democrat in the White Doodley Apr 2018 #180

As a white woman WhiteTara Apr 2018 #183

This is what I have seen True Blue American Apr 2018 #198

I'd love to see what the Tad Davine connection WhiteTara Apr 2018 #221

Me too. Even google tells that story. Imagine what Mueller has!!. Wwcd Apr 2018 #238

I'm hoping WhiteTara Apr 2018 #240

For Mueller to even name bernie along with Trump, he's got a lot. Wwcd Apr 2018 #245

Thank you! It's so helpful to have a clear explanation of how things cry baby Apr 2018 #191

You will never hear me use that curse word (but) in any sentence about Barack Obama, EffieBlack! Cracklin Charlie Apr 2018 #197

Obama was the best president in my lifetime TNLib Apr 2018 #199

Thank you! That makes perfect sense and jibes with what I know. nolabear Apr 2018 #201

I am very proud of Obama but I feel the reaction to Bernie is a bit overblown. lancelyons Apr 2018 #207

Talking "highly" of Dr. King does not cancel out what sounds to many like criticism of Obama EffieBlack Apr 2018 #215

Not in the context of his statements about Obama, even saying Obama should be primaired. uponit7771 Apr 2018 #282

While I understand your argument, and I appreciate the unique challenges Obama had as our first JCanete Apr 2018 #208

This has nothing to do with an assumption that Obama is "infallible" EffieBlack Apr 2018 #226

It is time for all of us to quit True Blue American Apr 2018 #236

I understand your point and where you're coming from EffieBlack Apr 2018 #253

Maybe my feelings True Blue American Apr 2018 #257

Effie, good points True Blue American Apr 2018 #289

This isn't about the last election. It's about the next one EffieBlack Apr 2018 #314

If that is the case True Blue American Apr 2018 #319

That was a truly great post and response Gothmog Apr 2018 #327

I think all of that would have been nice...I have still not seen this in full because I can't find JCanete Apr 2018 #352

Sanders comments about President Obama were offensive to this white woman. MLAA Apr 2018 #210

He credited all of Obama's accomplishments to "charisma" Wwcd Apr 2018 #239

+1, It's some shit I'd expect conservatives to say uponit7771 Apr 2018 #280

k&r DesertRat Apr 2018 #212

Bravo, EffieB!! You have opened a few minds today, and I hank you greatly for it. bettyellen Apr 2018 #223

Thank you cp Apr 2018 #233

kick ailsagirl Apr 2018 #235

K & R Wwcd Apr 2018 #241

Thanks for your lovely post. BlueMTexpat Apr 2018 #242

And Obama was sabotaged the whole time he was president by applegrove Apr 2018 #252

Here is a striking quote from a digital friend and former DUer The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #254

Yep, because the same folks who are criticizing the OP, ran off a lot of the AA members. stevenleser Apr 2018 #260

well, Got a message to relay Stevenleser The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #273

+1,000,000 George II Apr 2018 #288

LOL Gothmog Apr 2018 #323

+1 betsuni Apr 2018 #369

Boom! sheshe2 Apr 2018 #382

I loved that forum even though I am not African American Gothmog Apr 2018 #324

There's a reason that particular person isn't here anymore melman Apr 2018 #340

There is a reason people don't pretend to know what is in other people's minds. stevenleser Apr 2018 #347

Whatever that means melman Apr 2018 #354

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #370

+1,000,000 George II Apr 2018 #374

This is complete nonsense melman Apr 2018 #375

I see you Melman. The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #378

Sure thing melman Apr 2018 #379

Have a nice day Mel The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #381

I thought you wanted me to have a nice night melman Apr 2018 #384

This African American thinks your post is excellent, and definitely speaks for me. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2018 #259

It appears to me that when Bernie was marching to protest civil rights abuses TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #261

Thank you for the perspectives and your presentation of them. TryLogic Apr 2018 #267

I care as much about what Sanders thinks of Obama as... NNadir Apr 2018 #271

And another President that True Blue American Apr 2018 #293

And he did it on the 50th Anniversary of Dr. King's murder wryter2000 Apr 2018 #274

Great post malaise Apr 2018 #281

Don't know if mentioned too many comments on this OP to sift through, but the root had a blog on lunasun Apr 2018 #283

A good read, thanks mcar Apr 2018 #287

This is great. I hope plenty of people read it. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #290

Thank you for your zentrum Apr 2018 #291

K&R Scurrilous Apr 2018 #296

k+r Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #304

+++100 nt heaven05 Apr 2018 #313

Are white people not allowed to level any criticism at a black man? Doodley Apr 2018 #316

I don't believe you are actually as obtuse as that post makes you seem. stevenleser Apr 2018 #350

Very offensive of you. Try again. Doodley Apr 2018 #449

Nope, I graded your post "obtuse" but that is because your post earned the grade. stevenleser Apr 2018 #451

You don't know anything about me. Doodley Apr 2018 #452

My Thoughts on Your Post kooth Apr 2018 #317

Excellent!!!! and The inserted Video of Rev. Dr. William J. Barber Sums it up Civic Justice Apr 2018 #328

Thank you Progressive dog Apr 2018 #329

I wonder how President Obama reacted hell674 Apr 2018 #338

How can at this point 8488 claimed Democrats read this, and it has only 205 DU votes Civic Justice Apr 2018 #342

I posted how the Dems won local races in my Repub area. No interest. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #349

A gazillion threads & comments and I HAVE YET TO READ ANY verbatim quotes or context --Until I do, Kashkakat v.2.0 Apr 2018 #344

Take what with a grain of salt? How someone tells you certain words made them feel? stevenleser Apr 2018 #348

I mean if person A makes a statement, and person B paraphrases it and doesnt give an exact quote or Kashkakat v.2.0 Apr 2018 #372

That is beautiful, Effie.. Thank you Cha Apr 2018 #345

Thank you, EffieBlack. SunSeeker Apr 2018 #346

This is one of the most well-written posts I have EVER read on DU. Beartracks Apr 2018 #353

I might add that President/Senator Obama had the brains MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #355

Let's see...the Democratic Party is piling up the wins across the country BlueWI Apr 2018 #358

+ ∞. Excellent post. Also, ecstatic Apr 2018 #361

Great post...rec. I am only sorry that in 2018 such a post still needs to be written. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #363

Thank you. we can do it Apr 2018 #364

Very well said, thanks for taking the time to.post it. Ninsianna Apr 2018 #366

Not taking back my rec, and I absolutely see your point. Susan Calvin Apr 2018 #376

I tried to stay away from this thread. I knew it would make me angry. grantcart Apr 2018 #388

+1000000000000 betsuni Apr 2018 #390

Excellent! R B Garr Apr 2018 #417

Very informative post mcar Apr 2018 #443

Sanders eliminated any chance, duforsure Apr 2018 #395

Falling prey to manipulation--again Lytex59 Apr 2018 #396

Backhanded criticism of the first black President at an MLK day speech stevenleser Apr 2018 #406

Except I saw Sanders in the video of the event. R B Garr Apr 2018 #415

What an eloquent and thought-provoking post. n/t Chemisse Apr 2018 #400

Brilliant! bronxiteforever Apr 2018 #403

What a beautiful post, Effie. R B Garr Apr 2018 #409

I learned from the primaries that I should never tell anyone to not be offended by Bernie. aikoaiko Apr 2018 #419

Thanks for the thoughtful post EffieBlack Apr 2018 #425

Wow GaryCnf Apr 2018 #429

Sorry, I didn't mean to say that minorities only want to hear better rhetoric.. aikoaiko Apr 2018 #430

Please make this post its own OP Gothmog Apr 2018 #442

Effie, you move me to tears mcar Apr 2018 #444

That's so sweet - thank you! EffieBlack Apr 2018 #447

I think you should make this an OP too. betsuni Apr 2018 #446

Done! EffieBlack Apr 2018 #448

Effie, I so love reading your stuff and this does not disappoint all american girl Apr 2018 #431

Good post, Effie, but if possible appreciate Sanders for Hortensis Apr 2018 #433

I don't have a problem with him having a different view. My problem is his refusal to listen to EffieBlack Apr 2018 #441

Yes! He IS exactly like that. Hortensis Apr 2018 #450